Zeke vs Derrick Henry (Final Numbers)

LACowboysFan1

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Skip with the "Zeke quit" rating spill....already? Skip is funny and whiny.....laughable.

Skip and Stephen Smith are two peas in a pod - entertaining television personalities.

That's all. I enjoy (for the most part) listening to them, which is easy if you understand they both have an agenda and are paid to create controversey/discussions...
 

Trajan

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The good news is Zeke earns far more money, well deserved and Jerry should extend him this year !
 

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Yes, and especially if you consider that great NFL running backs according to some here are "a dime a dozen".:grin:
Great NFL backs are not a dime a dozen. Zeke is a dime a dozen because he is not great anymore. Henry is a great NFL back.
 

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Facts?! You compared YPC between Alfred Morris and Zeke. Have you ever played football? Have you ever played sports? I have....BOTH...and comparing Alfred Morris to Zeke is COMICAL!!!!!! Zeke beat the vaunted Alabama Crimson Tide to win the national championship in college. Zeke was a NFL rushing champ his first couple of years in the NFL. Is he who he was? No! But neither are ANY of the OL save MAYBE Martin. And no one is dumping on them like they are dumping on Zeke. Our vaunted OL and run game is over. The gig is up. So if you want to lay that solely at the feet of Zeke...then you don't understand football.
Yes, I’ve played some sort of sport my entire life. Sounds like you’re going full tilt, want to talk about it? Didn’t you say we couldn’t have this discussion any more since you can’t handle reality?

Were my facts wrong, yes or no? Sorry the truth hurts.
 

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The security guard instigated the "confrontation", that was pretty plain to most people. Again if you think there aren't security guards who have a "big man" complex, who want to make a name for themselves by "taking on" an NFL football player, you're again very naive...
Really? Who put their hands on someone else first? That was pretty clear. And what about all the other incidents?

I’ve actually worked security and bounced for plenty of bars, clubs and music events in my life and I’m well aware of how a lot of celebrities and athletes think they can use their status to bully others or get certain privileges because they are used to getting what they want and are entitled but thanks for your 2 cents, that was incredible insight.
 

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Great NFL backs are not a dime a dozen. Zeke is a dime a dozen because he is not great anymore. Henry is a great NFL back.
….wait until he goes to the bargaining table. And he should do just like Zeke....get as much money you can...because of the shelf life.
 

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Really? Who put their hands on someone else first?

We don't know if the recording we saw was all of it, or not. There was a video on the news here a few years ago where some cops body slammed a young man on the hood of a patrol car while handcuffed. The immediate reaction by most was that the cops were being "brutal" for no reason, the tv station interview several people who were shown the video and almost universally said the cops were too violent.

Well it came out later than while handcuffed, BEFORE somebody's phone started recording, that the young man was trying to kick the officer in the balls, several times, and tried to head butt another officer. THAT didn't make the "news". So no, we don't know the whole story. And obviously there wasn't much to it, no charges filed and the commish didn't punish Zeke, did he? Despite suspending him 6 games for allegedly abusing a woman, even though the NFL's own investigator said the woman's story wasn't credible/

I'm done, I've deal with enough hate for one day. I appreciate your view....
 

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He coming back....in a year or two....book it.

He only signed a 4 year deal before this season, so it's out in only 3 more years, wouldn't be but one year early if he comes back in two years, not such a dramatic prediction....
 

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He only signed a 4 year deal before this season, so it's out in only 3 more years, wouldn't be but one year early if he comes back in two years, not such a dramatic prediction....
No problem with the dramatics....unless he came to Dallas....then you'd see the dramatics on this board.
 

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I've always figured zeke would hit the wall pretty quick, just thought maybe not this quick. You can probably get another couple decent years out of him
 

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I've always figured zeke would hit the wall pretty quick, just thought maybe not this quick. You can probably get another couple decent years out of him

We hope so, he's going to be the starter for the next two years at least, barring injury...
 

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Excluding Zeke for a moment, and the salary value and production always the central dismay about Zeke. This is not a defense of Zeke or your posts about him & his play.

What game(s) did Amari Cooper take over, this year? Philly with the bad CB? Just wondering.
What game(s) did Cee Dee Lamb become a game changer?
What game(s), not moment, did Kellen Moore leave a defense in confusion or use TPollard's skill set consistently?
What OL did we see that became a keeper, this year?
 

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"Most starting RBs would have put up similiar numbers or better if they had the same O line zeke has"

WoW...have we not learned that when we put someone else besides Emmit behind that vaunted OL?

WoW...have we not learned that when we put someone else besides DeMarco Murray behind that vaunted OL? Remember Joseph Randle...and he was going to be the replacement of DeMarco Murray at a fraction of the cost?

Zeke was used to be an extra OL to pick pick up the blitz and was the best at it. In addition to catching the ball out the backfield on 3rd down. In addition to running it on 1st and 2nd down. We beat him up and he is a shell of himself.

Joe Gibbs in is 2nd stint with the Commanders spent draft picks and a ton of money on Clinton Portis to try to replicate John Riggins. He was very good in the beginning. But he got beat up over time being miscast as John Riggins and became a shell of himself. Does not mean Portis was not a quality back...just means Gibbs...trying to replicate 80s football....much like Garrett trying to replicate 90s football....could not adjust to todays NFL
 

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Not only did Zeke play with a depleted O line lets not forget he also played with 3 backup QB's.Depleted O line.Backup QB's.
Spells disaster for running backs.
 

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Only thing this proves to me is how important having an OL is. I think henry is an outstanding RB but does not change one simple aspect of the game and that is everything starts at the line of scrimmage, period
 
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