My top Free Agents to target under Quinn

QuincyCarterEra · Jan 12, 2021

Beaker42 said:
What about Sheldon Rankins

Love Rankins

jterrell · Jan 12, 2021

Aven8 said:
Go get Leonard Williams and consider the offseason a success to pair with Gallimore.

Leonard Williams isn't hitting free agency.
He's the single best player on their roster.

Fredbeard · Jan 12, 2021

Tomlinson or jones
Please and thank you

ChuckA1 · Jan 12, 2021

gimmesix said:
I don't agree. We've been trying to get by without top-tier players at some key positions and it has gotten us nowhere. I believe we need to use free agency to add a couple of top-tier players to the defense, preferably at DT and S.

Our cap and the ability to create more is in good enough shape to go after the top 1 or 2 at those positions, depending on who actually reaches FA. Then, IMO we use the first couple of rounds of the draft to add another DT and a CB (although I could live with us getting Sherman for a relatively cheap amount and biding time at CB.)

If we try to fix all of our issues in the draft, then as with any draft, we're going to probably end up with 1 or 2 truly starter-quality players and a couple of rotational-quality guys. And if we try to fix some of our issues with bargain FAs, then we're going to end up with the same thing we've had on defense the last few years.

We need to shop smart, but not be afraid to spend if there's a player worth it at a position of need.

I agree 100%. For gosh sakes, they desperately need a good 1T and FS. Certainly they saw that repeatedly this season

gimmesix · Jan 12, 2021

ChuckA1 said:
I agree 100%. For gosh sakes, they desperately need a good 1T and FS. Certainly they saw that repeatedly this season

I'm still more concerned with 3-tech. They need an interior player who can consistently get into the backfield and disrupt the play. Gallimore has some potential, but may be more of just a rotational player.

1-tech roadblocks are easier to find. The big problem with Marinelli is that he didn't want mass at the position and treated it like it didn't matter. If you stick a rotational player like Antwuan Woods in there, then you are going to get what you are paying for.

There are a few guys who might be available around our second-round pick for the 1-tech spot. 3-tech is a little more iffy in this draft and we might be better off pursuing it in FA, especially if someone like Leonard Williams ends up being available. We're more likely to end up rolling Gerald McCoy back out there, though.

speedkilz88 · Jan 12, 2021

gimmesix said:
I'm still more concerned with 3-tech. They need an interior player who can consistently get into the backfield and disrupt the play. Gallimore has some potential, but may be more of just a rotational player.

1-tech roadblocks are easier to find. The big problem with Marinelli is that he didn't want mass at the position and treated it like it didn't matter. If you stick a rotational player like Antwuan Woods in there, then you are going to get what you are paying for.

There are a few guys who might be available around our second-round pick for the 1-tech spot. 3-tech is a little more iffy in this draft and we might be better off pursuing it in FA, especially if someone like Leonard Williams ends up being available. We're more likely to end up rolling Gerald McCoy back out there, though.

Woods is a massive player. Dude had to drop weight just to play for Marinelli.

buybuydandavis · Jan 12, 2021

fivetwos said:
If no cap space to pay a safety its either the draft or a Clinton-Dix dumpster dive.

Thomas reunites with Quinn

Colombiacowboy · Jan 12, 2021

Denim Chicken said:
The cap and Dak's contract will obviously affect what we will ultimately do in free agency, but now that we have Quinn confirmed as the DC, these are the free agents we could target to help get his defense off the ground.

I like what we have at DE & I really do not see any great options out there for LB, so I focused on 1T, 3T, & FS where I think we need the most help:

DL
Shelby Harris
Dalvin Tomlinson
Poona Ford
DaQuan Jones
Roy Robertson-Harris

FS
Marcus Maye
Justin Simmons
Marcus Williams

Is anybody still winning by signing FAs?

Denim Chicken · Jan 12, 2021

JoeKing said:
A healthy Gerald McCoy could help our interior D-Line.

IDK, his best days are behind him and coming off that injury...Yeah, probably better that what we have and maybe a good insurance policy if cheap, but I'd like to shoot higher.

Denim Chicken · Jan 12, 2021

Colombiacowboy said:
Is anybody still winning by signing FAs?

I mean, that Tom Brady guy was a pretty good pick up.

Colombiacowboy · Jan 12, 2021

Denim Chicken said:
I mean, that Tom Brady guy was a pretty good pick up.

This is true, but not too many teams are rebuilding with FAs anymore.

JoeKing · Jan 12, 2021

Denim Chicken said:
IDK, his best days are behind him and coming off that injury...Yeah, probably better that what we have and maybe a good insurance policy if cheap, but I'd like to shoot higher.

No doubt about going higher. But I think we can get McCoy on a vet minimum contract and have a great addition... but he MUST be healthy. I like how you put it... a good insurance policy.

ChuckA1 · Jan 12, 2021

gimmesix said:
I'm still more concerned with 3-tech. They need an interior player who can consistently get into the backfield and disrupt the play. Gallimore has some potential, but may be more of just a rotational player.

1-tech roadblocks are easier to find. The big problem with Marinelli is that he didn't want mass at the position and treated it like it didn't matter. If you stick a rotational player like Antwuan Woods in there, then you are going to get what you are paying for.

There are a few guys who might be available around our second-round pick for the 1-tech spot. 3-tech is a little more iffy in this draft and we might be better off pursuing it in FA, especially if someone like Leonard Williams ends up being available. We're more likely to end up rolling Gerald McCoy back out there, though.

They did get gashed up the middle this season and last. Are you thinking a good 3T should be able to handle the run and pressure the QB when required?

buybuydandavis · Jan 12, 2021

gimmesix said:
I'm still more concerned with 3-tech. They need an interior player who can consistently get into the backfield and disrupt the play. Gallimore has some potential, but may be more of just a rotational player.
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We're more likely to end up rolling Gerald McCoy back out there, though.

DT was already a weakness before McCoy got injured, Poe turned out to be a dud, and Hill went down. AWoods was on the verge of being cut before McCoy went down, wasn't anything more than we thought he was, and was still our best dlineman this year. Earlier in the offseason, there was a lot of talk about Hill being cut.

DT is an abyss. Gallimore looked like a 3rd round rookie is gonna look. Not good, but flashes here and there. Hill will be in his 3rd year, coming off knee injury, and still a developmental project.

If the quality was there, we could use our first two picks at DT.

Denim Chicken · Jan 12, 2021

ChuckA1 said:
They did get gashed up the middle this season and last. Are you thinking a good 3T should be able to handle the run and pressure the QB when required?

That is the 3T job in this scheme. Difference from Nolan's scheme is he only has one gap to defend mostly.

Denim Chicken · Jan 12, 2021

Colombiacowboy said:
This is true, but not too many teams are rebuilding with FAs anymore.

No rebuilding, but you got to fill in those gaps.

gimmesix · Jan 12, 2021

ChuckA1 said:
They did get gashed up the middle this season and last. Are you thinking a good 3T should be able to handle the run and pressure the QB when required?

A good 3-tech causes disruption in both the running game and passing game. When you have an interior lineman bursting into a running lane, then the running back has to dodge him, allowing the other defenders time to close on the play.

I'm not saying we need just a top-notch 3-tech. We need to man the 1-tech better as well. It's just easier to find a big-bodied roadblock if you're willing to look for one. (We tried to fill the position on the cheap with Poe last year and got what we deserved. Before that, Marinelli treated the position like an after-thought.)

gimmesix · Jan 12, 2021

speedkilz88 said:
Woods is a massive player. Dude had to drop weight just to play for Marinelli.

I like Woods. He's a good rotational player who has been forced into a starting role. He weighs somewhere in the 310-320 range, which is definitely large for his height (6-1). I'm certainly not saying mass is everything or some players under Marinelli didn't have some size, just that Marinelli wanted his players slimmer and quicker. When you do that, unless you've got players with superior athletic skills, you set them up to be pushed around by bigger, better offensive linemen who can move just as quickly or quicker.

Starforever · Jan 12, 2021

Denim Chicken said:
I mean, that Tom Brady guy was a pretty good pick up.

QB's have a better shelf life.

speedkilz88 · Jan 12, 2021

Colombiacowboy said:
This is true, but not too many teams are rebuilding with FAs anymore.

This just isn't true, the Cowboys are just horrible at it.

The Chiefs won a Super Bowl (and may again) with a lot of guys that played for other teams. Three from the Cowboys.

Chiefs
WR Sammy Watkins
C Austin Reiter
RG Andrew Wylie
G/T Mike Remmers
T Mitchell Schwartz
LG Kelechi Osemele
RB Le'Veon Bell
LB Anthony Hitchens
LB Damien Wilson
DB Tyrann Mathieu
CB Breeland Bashaud

Trades
FB Anthony Sherman
DE Frank Clark
CB Charvarius Ward

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