Revisiting Micah Parsons

cnuball21 · Feb 12, 2021

It’s very simple to me...do your homework and if there are legit off the field issues you pass. If not, he’s on the short list at 10.

cowboyec · Feb 12, 2021

if he can address concerns about his immaturity and if football is THAT important to him....i'd have 0 problem with him at 10.
the talent is there.
where is his want to?
i also wouldn't hate jok,notre dame either.
but if both those cb's are gone and they feel good about Tyron and La'el....parsons HAS to be in consideration.
helluva talent.

Cowboyny · Feb 12, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
I still haven’t budged that Parsons is my fallback if one of the top two corners isn’t there.

Obviously, his background/character concerns have to check-out.

There isn’t a DT available that I’m willing to take at #10. Neither would I be enamored with taking Rashawn Slater there also.

Parsons’s ceiling is high. He’s still developing at the position and is already one of the best at the college level. We need talent at this position.

What....say....you?

Parsons scares me to death, immature, has issues with misdirection and still is learning how to play coverage. That reminds me too much of Jaylon Smith. If I am going to invest a top 10 pick for a non-rush linebacker, the player better be an elite 3 down player now, down the line. I think there will be a few quality linebackers in day two, early day 3, that could make an impact right away.

Carson · Feb 12, 2021

Cowboyny said:
Parsons scares me to death, immature, has issues with misdirection and still is learning how to play coverage. That reminds me too much of Jaylon Smith. If I am going to invest a top 10 pick for a non-rush linebacker, the player better be an elite 3 down player now, down the line. I think there will be a few quality linebackers in day two, early day 3, that could make an impact right away.

Agreed. Much rather have Jabril Cox or Browning

Hawkeye0202 · Feb 12, 2021

SeanLee50 said:
I wouldn’t say not to address. I just feel out of 1T, OLB, CB or FS that we could get by with a cheaper guy / later draft pick. We continue to follow that method at 1T and FS it hasn’t worked well. We’ve tried at corner and had some median of success.

This^^^

Malhavoc · Feb 13, 2021

Cox and Browning are nowhere near the the level of Parsons. The character concerns are legitimately something to consider. But as a prospect he is still the best defensive player in this draft IMO.

cnuball21 · Feb 13, 2021

Malhavoc said:
Cox and Browning are nowhere near the the level of Parsons. The character concerns are legitimately something to consider. But as a prospect he is still the best defensive player in this draft IMO.

Not even close.

Cox is a stud in coverage but lacks instincts and eyes against the run. Browning is a better athlete than football player.

Daygoboy6191 · Feb 13, 2021

Malhavoc said:
Cox and Browning are nowhere near the the level of Parsons. The character concerns are legitimately something to consider. But as a prospect he is still the best defensive player in this draft IMO.

Considering where you need to draft Parsons vs where you need to draft Cox, Browning and Werner, plus you factor in the off the field issues the value is about equal.
Parsons has the highest upside, but also has bust potential based on where he is drafted. I feel like Cox, Browning, and Werner although they may never be perennial pro-bowl players they could all be good LB's that you could get day 2 allowing your 1st round pick to go to a high value position like QB, OT, or CB in this draft.
Until Dak is signed or traded QB needs to be at the top of our mind as of right now in the first round.

GroundZero1970 · Feb 13, 2021

Jeremiah Owusu-Koramah will be a stud LBer too....

CATCH17 · Feb 13, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
I find it hilarious that fans can watch our horrid play at linebacker and be opposed to addressing the problem with talent.

How many 4-3 linebackers in the league would you give up the 10th overall pick for?

TheMarathonContinues · Feb 13, 2021

Teague31 said:
Just say no to a 4-3 LB with a Top 10 pick

Why is that? If the guy is a top 10 pick....frankly, I don't think the Cowboys are in position to be picky about talent any position.

cnuball21 · Feb 14, 2021

CATCH17 said:
How many 4-3 linebackers in the league would you give up the 10th overall pick for?

Probably count them on one hand.

Parsons is in that category and is that good of a prospect.

Jfconrow · Feb 14, 2021

I would love it. I have Pitts 1st, then Parsons....those are 1 and 2 on my board

Rayman70 · Feb 14, 2021

if Parsons is coachible, he can be a stud

Malhavoc · Feb 14, 2021

Daygoboy6191 said:
Considering where you need to draft Parsons vs where you need to draft Cox, Browning and Werner, plus you factor in the off the field issues the value is about equal.
Parsons has the highest upside, but also has bust potential based on where he is drafted. I feel like Cox, Browning, and Werner although they may never be perennial pro-bowl players they could all be good LB's that you could get day 2 allowing your 1st round pick to go to a high value position like QB, OT, or CB in this draft.
Until Dak is signed or traded QB needs to be at the top of our mind as of right now in the first round.

If the reason you are not drafting Parsons is because of the character concerns that’s legit. But Cox Browning and Cox are inferior players... by a LOT. The players you draft in the top 10 are players that have All Pro talent and upside. Parsons is that kind of player. Only reason to not consider him is the off the field stuff.

cnuball21 · Feb 14, 2021

Malhavoc said:
If the reason you are not drafting Parsons is because of the character concerns that’s legit. But Cox Browning and Cox are inferior players... by a LOT. The players you draft in the top 10 are players that have All Pro talent and upside. Parsons is that kind of player. Only reason to not consider him is the off the field stuff.

100%

Bowdown27 · Feb 14, 2021

Rayman70 said:
if Parsons is coachible, he can be a stud

Which I think he could be. Wonder if Quinn can turn him into Bobby Wagner.

HungryLion · Feb 14, 2021

This defense needs talent.

it needs talent everywhere

This defense needs playmakers.

Parsons makes plays.

this defense needs to stop the run.

Parsons is a beast against the run.

If he is the best player available with your pick. You take him and you don’t stress over it.

Sydla · Feb 14, 2021

Here’s my concern. Two of his “cons” if you read some of his draft guides are two things that frustrate the hell out of people with Smith (and at times LVE).

Questions about his instincts and he’s not great at taking on blockers and shedding them.

But the flip side is there aren’t a ton of options at 10 if the CBs are gone. So he still might be the best player available.

CalPolyTechnique · Feb 15, 2021

Sydla said:
Here’s my concern. Two of his “cons” if you read some of his draft guides are two things that frustrate the hell out of people with Smith (and at times LVE).

Questions about his instincts and he’s not great at taking on blockers and shedding them.

But the flip side is there aren’t a ton of options at 10 if the CBs are gone. So he still might be the best player available.

Here’s a scouting report on Bobby Wagner when he came (in terms of supposed negatives):

Negatives:

Small school competition
Boring tape- would struggle to fill a highlight reel
Could be more aggressive / he lets the play come to him too much
Finesse player, not very physical
Very slightly undersized / struggles to get off blocks

The point is I wouldn't really trip off reading scouting reports or comparing them.

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