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But isn't that because the invest so heavily on the QB position that it limits them in many other areas?
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No, it’s their overall culture , attachment to their Star players , lack of leadership , coaching, lack of eye for talent on defense , taking too many risk on injury history players. The list goes on and on.

Without lucking out on Romo and Dak this franchise would have really stunk it up. They have been our only hope to meet our owners goal of “ interesting and relevant”.
 
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But isn't that because the invest so heavily on the QB position that it limits them in many other areas?
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We could actually argue that their poor Mgmt of other key players and their contracts is preventing us from signing our QB.

This franchise has so much crap on top of crap, it’s difficult to wade thru it all. Why we’d draw our line in the sand on our QB is totally ridiculous.

Like this leadership would know what to do with the savings or steer us thru finding the next QB. Why would we have any faith in that.
 
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No, but you must remember my opinions are based on our dysfunctional organization and the expectations I have as such. I don’t depend or rely on them to find another QB as good as Dak.

Our awful franchise has been QB dependent since Romo propped us up. The bar has been forever lowered under this regime. Normal football strategy doesn’t apply with our promoters running operations.
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If that is the case, then this becomes even more puzzling. The strategy you propose injects even more opportunity for your "dysfunctional organizational shortcomings" to effect the team, because they would be forced to make more personnel decision that would effect the teams success.
 
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If that is the case, then this becomes even more puzzling. The strategy you propose injects even more opportunity for your "dysfunctional organizational shortcomings" to effect the team, because they would be forced to make more personnel decision that would effect the teams success.
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No, it’s QB dependent . Dak is the first key player they should have signed before Cooper or Elliott.

If our dysfunctional organization is unable to utilize the savings from paying Dak less then it doesn’t matter. And I have no faith whatever we could do with it would offset losing Dak.
 
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We could actually argue that their poor Mgmt of other key players and their contracts is preventing us from signing our QB.

This franchise has so much crap on top of crap, it’s difficult to wade thru it all. Why we’d draw our line in the sand on our QB is totally ridiculous.

Like this leadership would know what to do with the savings or steer us thru finding the next QB. Why would we have any faith in that.
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We could but what would it prove? I was never for stupid contracts, such as the one I see being negotiated with Dak, and it would not change the situation we are currently in.

For the record, I do believe this organization can find and judge talent. I think their shortcoming are that they overvalue their own players and that they have a poor understanding of how to put a team together. As example, we seem to have a lot of the very same types of players in certain position groups but we lack other types of players that you need to fill out a position group properly. LB, for example. We have a lot of run and chase LBs that are pretty good at doing just that but we have no LBs who can do the dirty work in the middle etc. I mean, I don't get it (LOL.....), it's crazy but I see it all the time. But that's different then saying we can't judge or develop talent. I don't believe that myself.

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Dak is going to cost us more to sign because we bundled getting him signed sooner. Should have got a deal done in 2018.
 
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No, it’s QB dependent . Dak is the first key player they should have signed before Cooper or Elliott
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They tried. Dak did not wish to sign. That's a strategy employed by his agent. Besides, in order to sign Dak before Cooper, they would have had to have signed Dak in 2019, which they cold not have done. They signed Elliot only because of Dak IMO. They wanted Dak to have Elliott and the actual contract, while paying too much IMO, is a pretty good deal for us. The structure is right.
 
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We could but what would it prove? I was never for stupid contracts, such as the one I see being negotiated with Dak, and it would not change the situation we are currently in.

For the record, I do believe this organization can find and judge talent. I think their shortcoming are that they overvalue their own players and that they have a poor understanding of how to put a team together. As example, we seem to have a lot of the very same types of players in certain position groups but we lack other types of players that you need to fill out a position group properly. LB, for example. We have a lot of run and chase LBs that are pretty good at doing just that but we have no LBs who can do the dirty work in the middle etc. I mean, I don't get it (LOL.....), it's crazy but I see it all the time. But that's different then saying we can't judge or develop talent. I don't believe that myself.

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Then it’s difficult for us to have much of a discussion cause we see our organization much differently.

When our owner and GM clearly states our priorities are” interesting and relevant “ then it throws out much of a normal football discussion
 
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They tried. Dak did not wish to sign. That's a strategy employed by his agent. Besides, in order to sign Dak before Cooper, they would have had to have signed Dak in 2019, which they cold not have done. They signed Elliot only because of Dak IMO. They wanted Dak to have Elliott and the actual contract, while paying too much IMO, is a pretty good deal for us. The structure is right.
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I said they should have signed Dak in 2018. You make him an offer he can’t refuse back then. And it would have been much less than what’s on the table now.
 
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Dak is going to cost us more to sign because we bundled getting him signed sooner. Should have got a deal done in 2018.
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How, his agent rejected every offer. The offers reportedly made, that matched Dak's requests, were simply rejected. The goal was always to get us to this point so that they could extort as much money as possible from the team, screw everybody else, or simply get to FA and sign with a team that pays the biggest contract.

Proof of this is the fact that the team and Dak had a deal at the beginning of 2020. CAA and France had already verbally agreed to it and after the first 3 games, France pulled out and increased the demands. I mean, you can blame Jerry all you want but this is not his doing IMO. This is all France and Dak.
 
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Then it’s difficult for us to have much of a discussion cause we see our organization much differently.

When our owner and GM clearly states our priorities are” interesting and relevant “ then it throws out much of a normal football discussion
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Perhaps.......
 
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How, his agent rejected every offer. The offers reportedly made, that matched Dak's requests, were simply rejected. The goal was always to get us to this point so that they could extort as much money as possible from the team, screw everybody else, or simply get to FA and sign with a team that pays the biggest contract.

Proof of this is the fact that the team and Dak had a deal at the beginning of 2020. CAA and France had already verbally agreed to it and after the first 3 games, France pulled out and increased the demands. I mean, you can blame Jerry all you want but this is not his doing IMO. This is all France and Dak.
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France wasn’t his agent in 2018, was he?
 
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I said they should have signed Dak in 2018. You make him an offer he can’t refuse back then. And it would have been much less than what’s on the table now.
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And yet they have rejected every single "Offer That Can't Be Refused" repeatedly. They never wanted to be signed. That's the real truth. They wanted to get to this point right here. They were never going to sign until they were at the maximum advantage, in terms of timing and leverage. I guess I just don't understand why people refuse to accept this.
 
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And yet they have rejected every single "Offer That Can't Be Refused" repeatedly. They never wanted to be signed. That's the real truth. They wanted to get to this point right here. They were never going to sign until they were at the maximum advantage, in terms of timing and leverage. I guess I just don't understand why people refuse to accept this.
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You keep saying they. But I’m referring to before France became his agent.
 
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France wasn’t his agent in 2018, was he?
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Yes he was. Dak hired France in June of 2018. As I understand it, Prescott replaced Guerrero with France, at a time where Guerrero was actually close to a new deal with the team. In principle, the deal was done but it could not yet be executed because it was still to early. Then Dak fired Guerrero and hired France.
 
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