Where does K Neal play now?

Winonesoon · Apr 30, 2021

BourbonBalz said:
Can we see how Smith and LVE play in the new scheme before we throw them to the curb, maybe? I mean, both were fantastic just 3 seasons ago. They’ve shown they can play and play very well. Just think how our LB corp would look now if they returned to form.

You should know these people dont have patience. Good problem to have.

Stash · Apr 30, 2021

movaughn88 said:
It's not the position on D I'd like to be heavy on, but a 1 year $5m deal for Neal isn't that much of an investment IMO.

Would that not have been better spent on a cornerback who might actually see the field?

There will be an injury or two for stretches of games and he will be active on passing down packages, that's fine w/ me.

Not fine with me to be paying $5 million a year to a backup.

thunderpimp91 · Apr 30, 2021

NorthwestDallas40 said:
He may not be a finished product, but I don’t think you pick a guy at 12 and not start him and play him a majority of the snaps.

Oh I think he gets plenty of snaps, he’s just not penciled in to start on the base D. He very well may rotate with LVE to limit his snaps due to injury concerns. He can also be a situational pass rusher, etc. I just done see him from day one being a starter and 3 down MLB.

Stash · Apr 30, 2021

BourbonBalz said:
Can we see how Smith and LVE play in the new scheme before we throw them to the curb, maybe? I mean, both were fantastic just 3 seasons ago. They’ve shown they can play and play very well. Just think how our LB corp would look now if they returned to form.

Overcrowded?

Grossly over invested?

:huh:

thunderpimp91 · Apr 30, 2021

stasheroo said:
I’d like anybody to attempt to step up and explain where they play all these linebackers we’re heavily invested in?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Neal is a hybrid player, LVE probably sees limited snaps due to injury concerns. Parsons can also move down and be a situational edge rusher. You have four LBs who are all unique. You can get them all on the field pretty easily.

I’m more concerned about the lack of DTs on the roster than the LB depth.

Stash · Apr 30, 2021

thunderpimp91 said:
Neal is a hybrid player, LVE probably sees limited snaps due to injury concerns. Parsons can also move down and be a situational edge rusher. You have four LBs who are all unique. You can get them all on the field pretty easily.

No, you can’t. This team isn’t playing a 3-4 defense, and even if they were, theses guys aren’t the pure edge pass rushers needed.

I’m more concerned about the lack of DTs on the roster than the LB depth.

I’m more concerned about an offensive line who’s projected starters missed nearly the entire season. And banking on this time being the charm.

Floatyworm · Apr 30, 2021

I think he's probably going to be your free safety....

Creeper · Apr 30, 2021

NorthwestDallas40 said:
We signed him to play WLB, they said. But with Parsons, does he move back to SS?

I was thinking the same thing. After Neal was signed a lot pf people were talking about what a great signing this was and how moving him to LB was going to improve the run defense. Now, with the selection of Parsons in the 1st round where does Neal play? He is a liability in pass defense and they have to play Parsons since he was the 12th pick in the draft.

BourbonBalz · Apr 30, 2021

stasheroo said:
Overcrowded?

Grossly over invested?

Overcrowded? Absolutely not. You need at least 6 capable LBers. Overpaid? Maybe with Jaylon’s contract, but that’s water under the bridge. As stated above, I’m anxious to see how Smith and LVE play under Quinn. If they return to form, our LB corp could be damned good. I’m willing to see how it goes.

G2 · Apr 30, 2021

They may not take LVE's 5th year.

HappyOnions · Apr 30, 2021

He'll inevitably replace one of the LBs once LVE get injured or Jaylon continues to be incompetent

G2 · Apr 30, 2021

BourbonBalz said:
Overcrowded? Absolutely not. You need at least 6 capable LBers. Overpaid? Maybe with Jaylon’s contract, but that’s water under the bridge. As stated above, I’m anxious to see how Smith and LVE play under Quinn. If they return to form, our LB corp could be damned good. I’m willing to see how it goes.

I agree. We'll see if they play like they did before last season. I don't think there was anything on defense last season to write home about game to game. Maybe Quinn puts them in a better spot and hopefully the LBers have a better supporting line and secondary.

Manwiththeplan · Apr 30, 2021

NorthwestDallas40 said:
We signed him to play WLB, they said. But with Parsons, does he move back to SS?

DT?

thunderpimp91 · Apr 30, 2021

stasheroo said:
No, you can’t. This team isn’t playing a 3-4 defense, and even if they were, theses guys aren’t the pure edge pass rushers needed.

I’m more concerned about an offensive line who’s projected starters missed nearly the entire season. And banking on this time being the charm.

No argument on the OL, they need a day 2 OL pick in the worst way.

I’d be careful about assuming what Dan Quinn wants to do on defense this year. He goes out to get Neal to play a DB/LB hybrid, and now brings in a super athlete in parsons. I’m not sure you won’t see some outside the box thinking. I wouldn’t line up parsons at DE 20 snaps a game, but I think people will be surprised about what he can do as a rusher. He has all the physical tools you look for. Good speed, size, and ability get a corner and flatten out to get to the qb. The guy is talented just really raw.

BourbonBalz · Apr 30, 2021

Streetwise said:
I agree. We'll see if they play like they did before last season. I don't think there was anything on defense last season to write home about game to game. Maybe Quinn puts them in a better spot and hopefully the LBers have a better supporting line and secondary.

Last year was just a perfect storm (in a bad way) for our defense. New staff, new scheme, no real off-season. Our personnel was obviously not great, but I don’t think it’s really as bad as it looked because of the issues just mentioned. Smith and LVE didn’t just forget how to play football. Either the scheme didn’t fit our personnel, they didn’t have sufficient time to perfect the scheme, the coaching sucked, or all of the above,

baltcowboy · Apr 30, 2021

NorthwestDallas40 said:
We signed him to play WLB, they said. But with Parsons, does he move back to SS?

I don’t know why fans/draftnicks don’t seem to understand. Parsons is here to be a game wrecker. He will be rushing the passer and stuffing the run. Neal will be the dime/nickel linebacker. I heard Tom Downey whining about Parsons coverage skills.

. He would have probably drafted JOK. I value people on this board’s opinion more then these Cowboys insiders.

G2 · Apr 30, 2021

BourbonBalz said:
Last year was just a perfect storm (in a bad way) for our defense. New staff, new scheme, no real off-season. Our personnel was obviously not great, but I don’t think it’s really as bad as it looked because of the issues just mentioned. Smith and LVE didn’t just forget how to play football. Either the scheme didn’t fit our personnel, they didn’t have sufficient time to perfect the scheme, the coaching sucked, or all of the above,

LVE was injured. That would be my concern over performance. Smith looked lost at times, but I think it was the system more than anything because he still piled up a ton of tackles. Most on the team. 3rd in the entire NFL. Not sure how much the line really helped.

Stash · Apr 30, 2021

BourbonBalz said:
Overcrowded? Absolutely not. You need at least 6 capable LBers.

That doesn’t mean over investment to this ridiculous level. You know that as well as I do.

Overpaid? Maybe with Jaylon’s contract, but that’s water under the bridge.

‘Water under the bridge’. Another great fan erasure line. A poor excuse attempt.

As stated above, I’m anxious to see how Smith and LVE play under Quinn. If they return to form, our LB corp could be damned good. I’m willing to see how it goes.

We all hope for the best, but no matter how well they play, the investments will never be justified. That’s the sad fact of it all.

BourbonBalz · Apr 30, 2021

Streetwise said:
LVE was injured. That would be my concern over performance. Smith looked lost at times, but I think it was the system more than anything because he still piled up a ton of tackles. Most on the team. 3rd in the entire NFL. Not sure how much the line really helped.

Yeah, LVE can be very good as long as he’s healthy. That’s the question. II think scheme really hurt Jaylon as well as our bad Dline play. Like I said, perfect storm.

quickccc · Apr 30, 2021

jazzcat22 said:
Neal can be in a rotation with LVE, Jaylon, Micah in the standard 4-3. I can see even all 4 on the field at times. Then depending what the offense shows, Neal can drop back into a S spot. They can play a 3-4 or drop Neal back as the 5th DB.
Or they can have him and 2 of the 3 LB's in, as a 4-3. Then he can drop back as well if need be.
Or play the standard 3-4 or drop him back to play the 4-2-5 as been talked about.
I am not sure if this is part of Quinn's defense, but just a thought.

They can have many options. As long as it is not too complex. However they will have OTA's and mini camps to install that this year, unlike last year.

i'd like to see how Neal plays it out as a nickel LB-rotation role, especially since he is converting to that new position.
With Parson now here .. either Jaylon or LVE is gonna have to be on the sideline more so in the Quinn's nickel base scheme.

ATL weakside LB Deion Jones brought tremendous value in his ability to match up in coverage as well as the big play ability, maybe Quinn is seeking same
with Neal even if its nickel packages and rotation.

I tend to think that more and more, they would want Neal operating closer to the line vs working further downfield in coverage.
Its a reason why they want to convert him more to LB.. rather than remain a pure strong safety.

Where does K Neal play now?

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