Twitter: Make no mistake, this was Dan Quinn's draft

The draft went pretty well imo. I would have taken the Bears trade (or maybe a 2nd this year instead of the 1st next year but besides that the Cowboys did a solid job. Some people wanted them to trade up from 10 for a corner but that would have taken 44 since you would have had to trade up to 6 to get your guy. So would I rather have just Horn, or Parsons and Kelvin Joseph (plus Gholston who we got with the pick from the trade back)? Parsons and Joseph should both be day 1 starters and Gholston will be able to contribute on run downs. So I'm glad the Cowboys didn't make that move.

As for Moehrig going right in front of the Cowboys, Kelvin Joseph would (and should) have been the pick over Moehrig either way so there was no point trading up. I would have liked to get a safety early but the way the board fell in the 2nd need and BPA lined up with getting Kelvin Joseph. And after Moehrig went there weren't any real day one starters for a single high free safety (and it's arguable even Moehrig wasn't that) so it made sense to just get a traits guy late with upside in Mukuamu. Maybe they could have packaged all their 3rds to move up but the Cowboys main need was run defense and they got two solid run defenders in the 3rd round. I think OO could end up being the day 1 starter at 3 tech. People wanted Barmore so bad but he didn't even play on run downs. The only pick I am iffy on in the 3rd is the Nahshon Wright pick, but even there I saw a couple boards that had him as a 4th round player so if that's the case taking him with a comp 3rd isn't a huge reach. That being said I would have taken Melifonwu there if you wanted a lengthy corner. We'll just have to see what happens there. Getting Jabril Cox in the 4th round is arguably the steal of the draft and makes up for not getting JOK.

Strol said:

Any coach who needs certain guys to fit a system isn't a great coach. A great coach gets the best possible talent and molds the plan to suit the talent.

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Every good coach has a certain style, a certain type of player he likes, and a certain scheme and methodology. He tries to arrange things the way he likes it, THEN he does his best with what he has. I know fans are frustrated about no SBs for 25 years, but holy crap, let the man try it his way! If doesn’t work, THEN gripe!

ESisback said:

Sorry dude, but I’ll take Quinn’s judgement over yours.

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How do you know what Quinn wanted?

big dog cowboy said:

Your assuming the Cowboys liked Barmore and Moehrig. And they may have. But they didn't love them and they didn't love them enough to make sure they got either one. If the Cowboys felt like they had to have either one they would have made a move. They didn't.

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How do you know they didnt love them? And how do you know they just thought they would drop and they didnt? All we can go on his the reports and the obvious. Reports said they loved him, FS is a key position in Quinns defense, and Moerhig was highly regarded by most.

And when you look at the fact that LV traded up right before us, that tells me they knew he would never last past the Cowboys.

Well when the owner flat out gives you a third to play with, you could say it was his draft.

CowboyRoy said:

How do you know they didnt love them?

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Because they didn't make a move to get them. The Cowboys had plenty of ammo to get almost anyone they wanted in this draft. They chose to pass. Tells me all I need to know.

big dog cowboy said:

Because they didn't make a move to get them. The Cowboys had plenty of ammo to get almost anyone they wanted in this draft. They chose to pass. Tells me all I need to know.

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The more likely explanation was they just blew it. They simply hoped he they would continue to fall and got outsmarted by other teams.

And yes, they had plenty of ammo and did nothing with it. Its not like they traded up for other guys. They didnt trade up for anyone? Seems to me when the Cowboys have time to make pre draft trade up or trade back scenarios, they happen more often. However, when the draft is in the process and they have to think quickly and get on the phone it rarely happens.

LV traded right in front of us to take Moerhig. They got caught flat footed. Or they were just hyperfocused on getting a corner with that pick and lost all sense of reason.

Howboutdemcowboys31 said:

I agree he has to have something for him because Molden was right there and is the better player

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Bulk him up - DQ is seeing Kam Part II

CowboyRoy said:

The more likely explanation was they just blew it. They simply hoped he they would continue to fall and got outsmarted by other teams.

And yes, they had plenty of ammo and did nothing with it. Its not like they traded up for other guys. They didnt trade up for anyone? Seems to me when the Cowboys have time to make pre draft trade up or trade back scenarios, they happen more often. However, when the draft is in the process and they have to think quickly and get on the phone it rarely happens.

LV traded right in front of us to take Moerhig. They got caught flat footed. Or they were just hyperfocused on getting a corner with that pick and lost all sense of reason.

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They might have blown it, but I think they were dead set on getting a CB that could get playing time early. I'm not sure if I'm in the minority, but I don't think they wanted Brown as their starting outside CB.

MyFairLady said:

This is such garbage. Good coaching gets the most out of good players. It doesn't need guys that "fit" into a certain system. I don't believe this for one second and neither should any of you.

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No it's b's for you to believe the shyt you just posted, you can't mix match 11 different players that have different skills. You have to have players that can fit, can you can adjust to 1 or 2 players, not a whole defense of misfit players

CowboyRoy said:

THIS was the draft that could have reset the defense and the franchise. We had a top 10 pick in every round and had 2 extra 3rd rounders and an extra 4th rounder. We had the power to pick high and move all over the board to get who we wanted. On top of that, other than Horn and Surtain in the first round, the draft was falling to us just as we needed in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds. Everything was there for the taking.

And we blew it. Plain and simple, the FO blew it. A couple of simple trade ups and this draft goes from a C to an A+ and our defense gets transformed over night.

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And this is based off of all the games and camps in the NFL that has been played already. Oh wait.. these guys haven't shown what they could do yet. You drama Queens are so hilarious.

Techsass said:

They might have blown it, but I think they were dead set on getting a CB that could get playing time early. I'm not sure if I'm in the minority, but I don't think they wanted Brown as their starting outside CB.

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I agree they were dead set on getting a corner. Hence they werent aggressive enough on Barmore or Moerhig.

GINeric said:

And this is based off of all the games and camps in the NFL that has been played already. Oh wait.. these guys haven't shown what they could do yet. You drama Queens are so hilarious.

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Some people do a lot of homework on the draft. Some of us really care what goes on here. Do you have an opinion or would you have been happy with whatever they did?

CowboyRoy said:

How do you know what Quinn wanted?

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I’m speculating, based on what I’ve seen and heard. So are you, but the difference is the way we interpret things. I want to remain optimistic and hopeful, and I tend to think they know what to do more than I do, whereas you apparently prefer to think they’ll always fail due to incompetence.

CowboyRoy said:

How do you know what Quinn wanted?

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It’s obvious to most of us that he had a lot of input, I’d guess more than McCarthy.

ESisback said:

It’s obvious to most of us that he had a lot of input, I’d guess more than McCarthy.

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So you made the leap that Quinn having big input to you knowing which players he specifically wanted and others he didnt?

Hawkeye0202 said:

As it should be......just me, but I honestly feel a lot better than I did after day two. No question in my mind we're already a better D than we were last year. Encouraging the see focus on run defense.

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Terrible. Thats how you reach for guys and set your franchise back. Honestly of course the defense is improved it couldn't get any worse than rock bottom.

Hawkeye0202 said:

As it should be......just me, but I honestly feel a lot better than I did after day two. No question in my mind we're already a better D than we were last year. Encouraging the see focus on run defense.

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For the 100th time, Dan Quinn did not build the Legion of Boom (See Carroll, Kris Richard, Norton and Bradley). Lionel Vital built the drafts (2015-2016) that eventually got the Falcons to the Super Bowl.

Quinn is a very good DC but not a personnel man. See Dave Wannsdet versus Jimmy Johnson.

_sturt_ said:

Coaches get too much credit for winning, too much criticism for losing. I've come to believe that. There's only so much a coach can do when players let down.

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Yeah but when coaches draft less talented players because they fit their scheme and the talent just isn't there then who gets the blame for that?

Howboutdemcowboys31 said:

Well then you can’t axe him after a year no matter how it goes otherwise what the hell was the point in letting him pick over the scouts.

That third round was the most frustrating sequence of 3 picks I’ve ever experienced and I would’ve definitely taken Slater over Parsons. Even if Parsons ends up great I can never value a great Lb over a great OG/OT.

Joseph I love the talent and the tape but can he stay on the straight and narrow we’ll see.

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Sorry, anyone that doesn’t think EVERY NFL team keeps scheme in mind when rating players, is beyond clueless.

To pretend you rate players without being guided by the scheme your going to play is have ZERO actual understanding of reality.

Sorry, comments like this show ZERO actual understanding.