Most Improved in 2021 - Run D or Pass D?

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Its a long off season :muttley:
Compared to other years it's actually a short off-season. We start preseason first with the Hall of Fame Game and we start the season first with Thursday Night Football against the Bucs.
 

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We had a very interesting Draft adding talent on every level of the Defense so i ask where do you see the most improvement ? Run Defense or the Pass Defense

I am going Run D but that may be the easy choice since they were so historically bad their really is only one way to go LOL

Brent Urban i think was an interesting pickup to help solve this based on his strength vs the run
I say run D. Urban’s good against the run, and I expect more from Gallimore and Hill, and then there’s The Big Bohanna. In addition to that, better coverage and pass rush will aid the runstoppers.
 

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Still don't trust the run defense. They finally pick a NT in the 6th round... really??? after being historically bad. No offence to Bohanna, but I don't think that's gonna cut it.
 

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Back seven is in as much transition as the front four, I like the fact that we are finally addressing the interior with the two rooks and Urban does bring a resume.
Gallimore was the beginning of the attention, wake up call to focus and correct a major weakness.
I just cant understand how or why that was never dealt with much earlier, but I love the additions at this point and current roster depth for now.
Just an early bet, but I bet we see Gallimore kicked out into run stuffing DE mode regularly
in this Quinn D.
 
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Still don't trust the run defense. They finally pick a NT in the 6th round... really??? after being historically bad. No offence to Bohanna, but I don't think that's gonna cut it.
Big Bo says he wants to hurt Centers in this league,, he is at least speaking the language of trench warfare.
 

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We had a very interesting Draft adding talent on every level of the Defense so i ask where do you see the most improvement ? Run Defense or the Pass Defense

I am going Run D but that may be the easy choice since they were so historically bad their really is only one way to go LOL

Brent Urban i think was an interesting pickup to help solve this based on his strength vs the run

How do you think that the defense will be improved ?
What player did we drafted or signed that will improve the defense ?

I give you Parsons. But he is a rookie and will replace a starter. So in the first 8 games it will be a wash.

Then who else ? Jospeh ? OK. And who else ?
 

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I think the run D to start will be most improved but that should ultimately improve the pass D as well. Plus we’ll see what they added to the secondary. I see an all around improvement.. which also shouldn’t be too difficult considering they were atrocious!
 

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How do you think that the defense will be improved ?
What player did we drafted or signed that will improve the defense ?

I give you Parsons. But he is a rookie and will replace a starter. So in the first 8 games it will be a wash.

Then who else ? Jospeh ? OK. And who else ?

Gallimore, Osa, Urban, Anae, Neal, Kazee, Bohanna, Cox, on top of Diggs improving and hopefully Hill and a full year of Gregory. Plus getting LVE back. It’s not just who they drafted this year but the development of players already here.

Then most importantly Nolan gone and replaced with Quinn. Better DC, new scheme and a fresh start and the D should see improvement! Parsons finally brings a LB who can take on and shed blocks, that alone should be a nice change of pace.
 
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Gallimore, Osa, Urban, Anae, Neal, Kazee, Bohanna, Cox, on top of Diggs improving and hopefully Hill and a full year of Gregory. Plus getting LVE back. It’s not just who they drafted this year but the development of players already here.

Then most importantly Nolan gone and replaced with Quinn. Better DC, new scheme and a fresh start and the D should see improvement! Parsons finally brings a LB who can take on and shed blocks, that alone should be a nice change of pace.

First of all Quinn is the same Hype as Nolan last year. The same trash talk: We will play hybrid blabla....

- Anae will have a hard day to survive the cut.
- Gallimore, Bohanna are no more than backups.
- Cox is a good tweener SS/LB who can cover but cant play LB against the run.
- Kazee who ????
- Neal comes back from major injury and wasnt good in Atlanta before that.
- LVE may find his form but may also be bad because of injury or bad talent. He essentially had one good season in his rookie year and nothing more. You cant count on that.

Seriously the others are no names. Maybe they can improve our backups. But nothing more.

I give you Hill. He had some good games before he got injured. But he is nothing special. Noone who you can expect to make a fundamental change.

A lot of names. But no talent or improvement at the starters level.
 

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First of all Quinn is the same Hype as Nolan last year. The same trash talk: We will play hybrid blabla....

- Anae will have a hard day to survive the cut.
- Gallimore, Bohanna are no more than backups.
- Cox is a good tweener SS/LB who can cover but cant play LB against the run.
- Kazee who ????
- Neal comes back from major injury and wasnt good in Atlanta before that.
- LVE may find his form but may also be bad because of injury or bad talent. He essentially had one good season in his rookie year and nothing more. You cant count on that.

Seriously the others are no names. Maybe they can improve our backups. But nothing more.

I give you Hill. He had some good games before he got injured. But he is nothing special. Noone who you can expect to make a fundamental change.

A lot of names. But no talent or improvement at the starters level.


Joseph and Parsons will start. It's funny how you leave no room at all for actually developing players. It's a huge part of being successful while you just assume you hit the draft every year for a full order of day one starters and whatever a player did last year he already hit his ceiling. Plus there is absolutely no way besides injury Anae doesn't make the team.

Gallimore is better than Hill, but you'll give me Hill? Now I didn't say they will be great, but they will be better. They brought in some speed, LB has gotten better, D line rotation has gotten deeper and the secondary should have 2 young quality starting corners for the forseeable future.
 

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Joseph and Parsons will start. It's funny how you leave no room at all for actually developing players. It's a huge part of being successful while you just assume you hit the draft every year for a full order of day one starters and whatever a player did last year he already hit his ceiling. Plus there is absolutely no way besides injury Anae doesn't make the team.

Gallimore is better than Hill, but you'll give me Hill? Now I didn't say they will be great, but they will be better. They brought in some speed, LB has gotten better, D line rotation has gotten deeper and the secondary should have 2 young quality starting corners for the forseeable future.

I judge players from what they gave me.

Anea has short arms and was a very risky pick. From what i read he is not the player Quinn looks for.
That Gallimoe is better than Hill is a big assumption. But Hill is still considered a bust so Gallimore may be nothing more than that.

Parsons may be great but ONLY and ONLY if we will support him with a great DL. He is a roaming, blitzing LB and no one who can take on and destroy OL players. We dont even have a medicore DL. So i dont expect him to be a big difference.

Jospeph may be a good CB but he will need some adjusment time like Diggs needed. So i dont expect him to play on a good level until week 10. He also has some character conerns.

With all that said the probability that our defense will be even as good as last year is very low.
 

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I believe the two will go hand in hand. Given the run D was so much worse the room for improvement alone makes it that the run D will improve most by default.... if the two areas improve relative to one another, as I suspect they will.
 

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Run defense will be given the most attention and will be the most improved.
QBs throw bad passes; receivers drop balls; defenders guess correctly at times.
But if you can’t stop the run, you have no chance unless there’s a holding penalty.
 

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Run defense will be given the most attention and will be the most improved.
QBs throw bad passes; receivers drop balls; defenders guess correctly at times.
But if you can’t stop the run, you have no chance unless there’s a holding penalty.
That's what makes the player acquisitions interesting because they signed/drafted run stopping DEs and only a 6th round NT win all the running was on the inside.
 

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They need to improve on scoring defense, giving up a league high 54 TD's no matter run or pass. That needs to improve.

They addressed both run and pass, but I think they did a little better on the run defense. Now if the pass rush improves with the DL upgrades, that will help the pass defense as well.
 
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