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What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals??? We harp so much on what players are making, and how they're not living up to the amount of money they are costing the team.

Instead of having a long term commitment, why not 1 year deals, that way if their play isn't up to par, there's no long term attachment!! Your thoughts....

You will wind up with a team full of players like the Cowboys get on FA. Players mostly coming off injury, bad years, washed up, and not very reliable or consistent. Not only will you have great coaches not wanting to come to Dallas due to Jerry, but also players as well. LOL....great...
 

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Oh, I see. You're talking about the entire league instituting these policies. Meanwhile, the owners are drowning in billions of dollars.

It's hilarious how fans demand rules for players that they would absolutely fight having foisted upon them in their jobs.

I was in the insurance business, it worked like this....37% off the first sell then 15% on renewals. It didn't matter what the company made, if that were a problem then do something else. All these companies have a system if it isn't for you find one that is. How much owners makes has nothing at all to do with the players, you don't have to be there.
 

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What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals??? We harp so much on what players are making, and how they're not living up to the amount of money they are costing the team.

Instead of having a long term commitment, why not 1 year deals, that way if their play isn't up to par, there's no long term attachment!! Your thoughts....

Long-term contracts aren't the problem. Talent evaluation - giving big contracts to the wrong players - is the problem.

Do you think the Chiefs want Mahomes on a one-year contract, at risk of losing him?
 

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I was in the insurance business, it worked like this....37% off the first sell then 15% on renewals. It didn't matter what the company made, if that were a problem then do something else. All these companies have a system if it isn't for you find one that is. How much owners makes has nothing at all to do with the players, you don't have to be there.


That’s not the point jake is making. End of the day. The players also have a union and have the right to fight and get paid as much as possible, in accordance with how much value they bring to their employer.

So why would the players be like “yeah ya know what. We want less guaranteed money and financial stability, all the while the leagues profits are going up”


Doesn’t make sense.
 

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That’s not the point jake is making. End of the day. The players also have a union and have the right to fight and get paid as much as possible, in accordance with how much value they bring to their employer.

So why would the players be like “yeah ya know what. We want less guaranteed money and financial stability, all the while the leagues profits are going up”


Doesn’t make sense.

What doesn't make sense is thinking Walmart/Target/McDonalds/Dodge/Burger King etc employees care about how much the company makes, what difference does it make they make a wage.

The NFL could pay these guys half of what they do now, ya don't like it do something else.

Less than 1% of college football players make it to the NFL these guys need to thank God they made it and cool worrying about $$$$$$. All of them making far more than dad ever made.
 

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What doesn't make sense is thinking Walmart/Target/McDonalds/Dodge/Burger King etc employees care about how much the company makes, what difference does it make they make a wage.

The NFL could pay these guys half of what they do now, ya don't like it do something else.

Less than 1% of college football players make it to the NFL these guys need to thank God they made it and cool worrying about $$$$$$. All of them making far more than dad ever made.

You completely ignore the fact that the players are in Union.

and yes the players are the absolute best in the world. Which is why their value is so high. This has nothing to do with target or wal mart. You’re talking about low skilled wages vs wages for rare people who can do things that very few other people can do.

If the Owners wanted to remove guarantees and Lower salaries, The Union strikes. Good luck to the owners trying to make as much money, using scab players who suck and aren’t fun to watch play.

So again, the point of the thread. Why would the players Union agree to LESS guaranteed money and pay, all the while the leagues profits are going up?

The CBA literally outlines what % of revenue goes to the players. Why would the players want less? The players Union does care about how much the NFL makes. When the players, by contract are guaranteed a certain % of revenue. Unlike Walmart/target etc. which is why your example doesn’t fit.

Why would players want less guarantees when they play a violent game where they could be injured and lose their career at any time?

that’s why the OP’s idea wouldn’t work.
 

LandryFan

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What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals??? We harp so much on what players are making, and how they're not living up to the amount of money they are costing the team.

Instead of having a long term commitment, why not 1 year deals, that way if their play isn't up to par, there's no long term attachment!! Your thoughts....
It takes two to tango. No top player in his right mind would do a one year deal. Now players trying to make a comeback and so forth...yes. Top players...no.
 

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I am all for reasonable pay for services. What they do simply isnt worth what they are getting and its only getting worse.
And you know this how? The owners clearly think the players are worth what they're getting. Why should we take your opinion over theirs? And if an owner wants to pay a guy more than you think he should get, why shouldn't he (the owner) be allowed to?
 

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What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals??? We harp so much on what players are making, and how they're not living up to the amount of money they are costing the team.

Instead of having a long term commitment, why not 1 year deals, that way if their play isn't up to par, there's no long term attachment!! Your thoughts....
My thoughts are this is not how reality works
 

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And you know this how? The owners clearly think the players are worth what they're getting. Why should we take your opinion over theirs? And if an owner wants to pay a guy more than you think he should get, why shouldn't he be allowed to?


And yet…. The NFL and teams still make massive profits despite what the players are making.

It’s almost like the players and their skills ARE worth what they’re making. Based on how much revenue it creates.

imagine that.
 

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If the owners colluded to offer one year deals only, and that came out, the lawsuits would be so prevalent, the game would be played at halftime and lawyers would debate during the four quarters on TV.

Or, other owners would go back on their under the table deal and offer longer contracts to pry players away from their opponents.
 

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You completely ignore the fact that the players are in Union.

and yes the players are the absolute best in the world. Which is why their value is so high. This has nothing to do with target or wal mart. You’re talking about low skilled wages vs wages for rare people who can do things that very few other people can do.

If the Owners wanted to remove guarantees and Lower salaries, The Union strikes. Good luck to the owners trying to make as much money, using scab players who suck and aren’t fun to watch play.

So again, the point of the thread. Why would the players Union agree to LESS guaranteed money and pay, all the while the leagues profits are going up?

The CBA literally outlines what % of revenue goes to the players. Why would the players want less? Why would players want less guarantees when they play a violent game where they could be injured and lose their career at any time?

that’s why the OP’s idea wouldn’t work.

I am obviously talking about if they decided to change the way things are done in the NFL not how it currently is. Yes as is I agree with you,

Dramatic changes is what needs to happen, and it could. Remember pre free agency? Pre instant replay? There was a time they had 12 game seasons, 14 rounds in the draft, so dramatic changes can happen.

This paying anyone 40 million to play football is ridiculous.
 

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If the owners colluded to offer one year deals only, and that came out, the lawsuits would be so prevalent, the game would be played at halftime and lawyers would debate during the four quarters on TV.

Or, other owners would go back on their under the table deal and offer longer contracts to pry players away from their opponents.


This is just it too. People aren’t factoring in the competition factor.


If some owners want to go cheap and not pay. Other owners will pay, so they can have the better players and better chance of winning games….. which will also coincidentally create more revenue because it’s easier to sell tickets and gear when you have good players and are winning games.
 

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I am obviously talking about if they decided to change the way things are done in the NFL not how it currently is. Yes as is I agree with you,

Dramatic changes is what needs to happen, and it could. Remember pre free agency? Pre instant replay? There was a time they had 12 game seasons, 14 rounds in the draft, so dramatic changes can happen.

This paying anyone 40 million to play football is ridiculous.


I honest don’t care how much NFL players make. It has literally zero impact on me.

I can’t think of any valid reason somebody would.

And yes change happens. If you think change is going to happen to decrease player pay, while revenue is going up. Then you’re not being honest with yourself.

player pay won’t go down unless revenues go down.
 

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What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals??? We harp so much on what players are making, and how they're not living up to the amount of money they are costing the team.

Instead of having a long term commitment, why not 1 year deals, that way if their play isn't up to par, there's no long term attachment!! Your thoughts....
Teams around the NFL are completely free to sign top players to one year deals. As long as they can get the player to agree. Good luck with that, when other teams are offering long-term deals to those same players.

Actually, you could get guys to sign for one year. You simply have to offer a substantial premium to cover the risk they're taking. Players like long-term deals because they get security (well, to the extent that the contract is guaranteed), and they trade for that by accepting less money than they could get in a series of one-year deals if they stayed healthy and productive. So you might have to offer Mahomes $100M guaranteed to take your one-year deal, but you can make that offer.
 

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I am obviously talking about if they decided to change the way things are done in the NFL not how it currently is. Yes as is I agree with you,

Dramatic changes is what needs to happen, and it could. Remember pre free agency? Pre instant replay? There was a time they had 12 game seasons, 14 rounds in the draft, so dramatic changes can happen.

This paying anyone 40 million to play football is ridiculous.
Why? You say, "dramatic changes need to happen," but you haven't explained the problem you're trying to solve.

Why is paying someone $40M to play football ridiculous? The owner who pays that clearly thinks they are bringing in more than $40M in revenue every year, so why shouldn't they be paid that? More importantly, who are you to tell that owner that he's wrong and make him do something different with his money?
 

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What if teams around the NFL could just sign top players to 1 year Deals??? We harp so much on what players are making, and how they're not living up to the amount of money they are costing the team.

Instead of having a long term commitment, why not 1 year deals, that way if their play isn't up to par, there's no long term attachment!! Your thoughts....
they could...you are only looking at it from one point of view, however, if some team wanted a player and wanted to get his services over another team, then they offer more years, lets say 2, and then the next team says, I really want this player and they offer a 3 year deal and so we get into where we are today, some players due to age, injuries and what not get one year prove it deal...and then they get multi year deals....so Hooker probably didn't have other deals that were better. and so he took the dallas one year deal....if lets say philly would have offered him a 2 year deal at higher value, he may have considered that....

the only way this would work is if all the owners would agree to do lets say 5 players per team on one year deals, in which case they would be colluding and it goes against the CBA....

nice thought though
 

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Not sure about one year but something different,

I would go with all rookies get a three year deal all making the same amount, done by rounds they were drafted. Then in year four ya bring in the agents and talk actual worth. But only three year deals. So players are constantly being evaluated.

If ya don't like that there is always the CFL or find a real job.
:huh::facepalm:

that's what it is today....the rookie money is slotted by where they are picked...and there is a rookie cap....first rounders get 4 year deals because owners want to hold on to the first rounder longer...
 
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