New England, a game for the coaches

CowboyFrog · Oct 16, 2021

brooksey1 said:
There’s a reason we’re only 3 point favorites

Sure there is ..."any given sunday"....."BB is a genius"......"Cowboys can set an offensive record".....so tell me the odds on those comments...and when you cant tell me which one..tell me which one depends on the play of the players most.

Now tell me why vegas is always right?

Reid1boys · Oct 16, 2021

brooksey1 said:
There’s a reason we’re only 3 point favorites

we were 7 favorites last week. What did we win by???? 22.

and thats 3 on the road. At home it would have been 6. Cant wait to kick their butt tomorrow.

Bugsy12 · Oct 17, 2021

CowboysRule said:
Am i the only one who doesn't think Belichick is that great of a coach? Yeah, you did great with probably the best QB ever (it pains me to say that as i hate Tom Brady). You only started him once Bledsoe was injured. You have a losing record without Tom starting. You've been caught cheating multiple times. Was it really him, or was it Brady?

Yeah, Belichick isn’t a good coach…good lord…not sure how anyone can say that. even before the patriots, he was the d-coordinator for the Giants that won a couple of super bowls with LT, Harry Carson, and Carl Banks all running a 34. He’s also overseen one of the most prolific offenses in nfl history w/ Brady & moss and almost went undefeated while winning a gazillion Super Bowls as head coach or d-coordinator. C’mon Man

Bugsy12 · Oct 17, 2021

CowboysRule said:
Am i the only one who doesn't think Belichick is that great of a coach? Yeah, you did great with probably the best QB ever (it pains me to say that as i hate Tom Brady). You only started him once Bledsoe was injured. You have a losing record without Tom starting. You've been caught cheating multiple times. Was it really him, or was it Brady?

Yeah, Belichick isn’t a good coach…good lord…not sure how anyone can say that. even before the patriots, he was the d-coordinator for the Giants that won a couple of super bowls with LT, Harry Carson, and Carl Banks all running a 34. He’s also overseen one of the most prolific offenses in nfl history w/ Brady & moss and almost went undefeated while winning a gazillion Super Bowls as head coach or d-coordinator. C’mon Man

CowboysRule · Oct 17, 2021

Bugsy12 said:
Yeah, Belichick isn’t a good coach…good lord…not sure how anyone can say that. even before the patriots, he was the d-coordinator for the Giants that won a couple of super bowls with LT, Harry Carson, and Carl Banks all running a 34. He’s also overseen one of the most prolific offenses in nfl history w/ Brady & moss and almost went undefeated while winning a gazillion Super Bowls as head coach or d-coordinator. C’mon Man

Please point out where i said he wasn't a good coach? I'm just saying that without the guy most consider to be the best QB ever, he hasn't had much success. I mean, the year Brady took over for Bledsoe they had started 0-2. Only when Brady came in did they start having success. Was it Brady or was it Belichick?

CowboysFaninHouston · Oct 17, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
They are rebuilding with a rookie QB.

Ya'll must have just forgot when he went 11-5 with Matt Cassell the year Brady was hurt.

Or when he didn't lose a single game playing Jimmy G and Brisset. Both of those guys got PAID because of how good Bill and that system made them look.

well, the 11-5 is 6 of one, half a dozen of other....they did win, but they missed the playoffs.....kind of tells me they had a fairly easy schedule. and looking at their schedule kind of makes sense. they played AFC west, whose best team was 8-8. they played NFC west, whose best team was 9-7 and second place team had losing record. still they did win 11. but of all the years without brady, bilicheck has a losing record. so one can easily point to that...

CowboysFaninHouston · Oct 17, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
Romo is a great modern QB.

Roger was great for his era.

I'm taking the great modern guy over the great 1960s guy any day.

well, Staubach played in the 70s, not 60s..he played all the way to 1979....so a bit of cowboys history lesson.

Also, your assumption is that Staubach's game wouldn't translate to todays game. he would have access to all the tools they have access to today. assumption shouldn't be we just lift, transfer in time and put them in a game today as is....they would have been training, growing, using all of what's available to them today. back then tools and training was limited..what would romo be without all that he had available to him today, playing in the 70s?....Roger was a great athlete, had great arm. very mobile. he also didn't choke in the playoffs or big games, he raised his game. went to 4 superbowls winning 2.....against the great steelers.

CowboysFaninHouston · Oct 17, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
It's not disrespectful to say guys that are better than Landry and Staubach are better than them. They're not the GOATS. People are better than they are.

You're just star blind and emotional.

MC, I want to have respect for you. I do. I have changed somewhat from summer. you have been a stand up guy and even somewhat come around on Dak and have said as much.

but man, this emotional angle posts as soon as someone pushes back on you and you feel you may lose an arguement...childish....I expect more from you. your bar is higher than pappy, khiladi and few others.

I am sure your next posts is me being emotional or rent free or I don't care what you think comment of some type..

CowboysFaninHouston · Oct 17, 2021

MountaineerCowboy said:
Here's where I'm coming from.

If they were to have a draft right now i'm taking Aikman, Romo, AND Dak before Staubach any day of the week.

That's has nothing to do with legacy. That has to do with how the game has evolved since the 1960s. The game is MUCH different now. The rules, the size of guys, medicine, and training are completely different than the 1960s.

If Staubach had the same benefits that the other guys had then maybe things would be different, but he didn't, so we can pretend that did.

If we're going legacy then it would be Aikman, Staubach, Romo, and Dak for me.

good points, but as you said, if you want to compare, its Roger having access to the same things.....its like saying in a sword fight, one guy has a sword, and we tie the other guy up with his hands behind his back, feet tied together and the guy with a sword not tied up is a better fighter (not sure the analogy makes sense, so hopefully)....give roger the same tools, etc. lets see what he has...or take away all of it from aikman, romo, etc. lets see how they do....yes game has evolved, but if roger was young today and have access to the same tools, chances are he would be better than romo and as good as aikman. its somewhat projecting what could be....and there in lies the debate. and roger called his own game. he was extension of OC on the field. didn't have access to ipads, instant replays, etc........

SpaceCowboy99 · Oct 17, 2021

I always wonder who are the types of people that buy silly things like selfie sticks or fidget toys.. then I read threads like this and I understand.

No other coach and quarterback will ever reach and win 6 of 8 superbowls together. If you think it was one or the other, I feel sorry for you. Please go watch soccer. We witnessed and have been witnessing 2 goats. Can't take away from either.

The patriots are in rebuild mode and coming off a covid year where they were decimated on defense because of everyone sitting out due to covid. Their rebuild years are still closer to the cowboys normal 8-8 years. Everyone else's rebuild years are 2-14.

Take Wilson away from the Seahawks, see what Pete Carroll's next few rebuild years would be like.

Anyways, I've got some fidget spinners for sale on Amazon I think most of you would be interested in.

Ranched · Oct 17, 2021

BAT · Oct 17, 2021

Try and stop this Billy.

Reid1boys · Oct 17, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
well, Staubach played in the 70s, not 60s..he played all the way to 1979....so a bit of cowboys history lesson.

Also, your assumption is that Staubach's game wouldn't translate to todays game. he would have access to all the tools they have access to today. assumption shouldn't be we just lift, transfer in time and put them in a game today as is....they would have been training, growing, using all of what's available to them today. back then tools and training was limited..what would romo be without all that he had available to him today, playing in the 70s?....Roger was a great athlete, had great arm. very mobile. he also didn't choke in the playoffs or big games, he raised his game. went to 4 superbowls winning 2.....against the great steelers.

Roger is one of the greatest QB, leaders, competitors to ever play the game. Roger would have feasted in todays game with the rules so slanted to protect the qb and receivers.
That being said, Roger never beat the steelers in the SB, going 0-2 against them.

IceStar-D7 · Oct 17, 2021

Yea. I think it's gonna come down to our coaches versus theirs. Our defense versus their offense. Game will definitely show if Moore is a genius or very over rated.

rambo2 · Oct 17, 2021

brooksey1 said:
There’s a reason we’re only 3 point favorites

There is a reason why most road

IceStarD54 said:
Yea. I think it's gonna come down to our coaches versus theirs. Our defense versus their offense. Game will definitely show if Moore is a genius or very over rated.

The Cowboys will beat the Patriots by a lot. The Patriots will get killed.

Reid1boys · Oct 17, 2021

SpaceCowboy99 said:
I always wonder who are the types of people that buy silly things like selfie sticks or fidget toys.. then I read threads like this and I understand.

No other coach and quarterback will ever reach and win 6 of 8 superbowls together. If you think it was one or the other, I feel sorry for you. Please go watch soccer. We witnessed and have been witnessing 2 goats. Can't take away from either.

The patriots are in rebuild mode and coming off a covid year where they were decimated on defense because of everyone sitting out due to covid. Their rebuild years are still closer to the cowboys normal 8-8 years. Everyone else's rebuild years are 2-14.

Take Wilson away from the Seahawks, see what Pete Carroll's next few rebuild years would be like.

Anyways, I've got some fidget spinners for sale on Amazon I think most of you would be interested in.

Just curious... how many years does he get to "Rebuild?"
Does he need to rebuild an entire roster???

Reid1boys · Oct 17, 2021

IceStarD54 said:
Yea. I think it's gonna come down to our coaches versus theirs. Our defense versus their offense. Game will definitely show if Moore is a genius or very over rated.

so one game shows if a coach is a "Genius?"

CowboysFaninHouston · Oct 17, 2021

Reid1boys said:
Roger is one of the greatest QB, leaders, competitors to ever play the game. Roger would have feasted in todays game with the rules so slanted to protect the qb and receivers.
That being said, Roger never beat the steelers in the SB, going 0-2 against them.

you know, that's a great point. the sissy rules today allowing the WR to do what ever and the CBs are just hog tied on defense vs. the old days and the hitting of QBs...back then there was no mercy....concussions were taken care of with some smelling salt and go back in....yeah, not sure if Romo would have lasted 2 seasons back then as injured as he got in today's game.

true, he never beat the steelers. those were some great steeler teams. the one that bothers me is the drop in the endzone to tie the game. ouch. but one of the greatest superbowls ever.

SpaceCowboy99 · Oct 17, 2021

Reid1boys said:
Just curious... how many years does he get to "Rebuild?"
Does he need to rebuild an entire roster???

With what he had left on the team in 2020 it was a miracle they finished 7-9. Come on, your all star qb leaves because no one is on offense to help him. And 9 players on D sit out in 2020. Now he has a rookie QB and is rebuilding around them.

So yeah ide say 3 years to get back in the running.

Doomsdayblitz · Oct 17, 2021

I thought this post was about great coaches. Since there's only one HC in this game who qualifies, I don't get the point. Once again, McCarthy put his team in terrible field position by going for it deep in his own territory on 4th down, forcing his defense to defend a shortened field. This game never should have gone into OT

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