Twitter: PFF: MVP race is wide open

Matt Stafford has no shot. He’s looked awful the past two games tossing 4 INT’s compared to 2 TD’s. The Rams have dropped two straight.

Goodell will not allow Dak (Cowboys) get the MVP . Probably .

Bob-Lillys-War said:

Goodell will not allow Dak (Cowboys) get the MVP . Probably .

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Dak has missed a game, and had one stinker. Think #4 is in good shape because he's played good ball in the other games. A good one tommorow would open some eyes.

There are about 6-7 guys that all should be in the conversation.

So 5 or 6 fanbases will be whining if their guy doesn't get it.
The media hops on a train, chooses one of those playing well, and starts pumping that guy.
The good news for Dak is that he seems to be that guy they are pumping this year.

Just want the team to do well in the end and let any awards come along for the ride.

Mr_437 said:

Dak has missed a game, and had one stinker. Think #4 is in good shape because he's played good ball in the other games. A good one tommorow would open some eyes.

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Why tomorrow?

The Chiefs have a worse defense than some that he already torched this year.

DFWJC said:

Why tomorrow?

The Chiefs have a worse defense than some that he already torched this year.

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Pat Mahomes...
People will tune in to see the two QBs.

Mr_437 said:

Pat Mahomes...
People will tune in to see the two QBs.

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Oh, I agree.
This game will be have huge ratings.
No doubt!

Just saying there have been plenty of others this year

• Mahomes/Jackson
• Brady/Prescott
• Rodgers/Mahomes...almost
• Mahomes/Allen
• Brady/Stafford
• Murray/Stafford
• Murray/Rodgers
• Mahomes/Herbert

and so on

I know Dallas will ALWAYS be way overhyped. And add in Mahomes and you have a show.
But plenty f other great shows already this year, and more to come.

jterrell said:

rofl... MM doesn't develop Dak. He doesn't really work with him.
Kellen Moore and Dak are attached at the hip and he has both a team position coach and an off-season position coach.

Dak's ascent has been pretty consistent for 3-4 years running minus his lost year to injury.

Dak was the one who chose for the team to keep Kellen. That is his guy.

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MM has QB school for all the QB's on the team. He has a hand in their development.

Murray missing games isn’t helping his chances.

DFWJC said:

Oh, I agree.
This game will be have huge ratings.
No doubt!

Just saying there have been plenty of others this year

• Mahomes/Jackson
• Brady/Prescott
• Rodgers/Mahomes...almost
• Mahomes/Allen
• Brady/Stafford
• Murray/Stafford
• Murray/Rodgers
• Mahomes/Herbert

and so on

I know Dallas will ALWAYS be way overhyped. And add in Mahomes and you have a show.
But plenty f other great shows already this year, and more to come.

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Facts

Hawkeye0202 said:

It's going to be close but good lord, who would have thought our guy would be right in the thick of it.

BTW......raise your hand if you still think he's overpaid (lol)

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Hand has been up for years......if he can get us to the SB I will happily admit that the massive contract was worth taking away the ability to sign free agents to shore up this defense......because it means he overcame it

Race is tight. Brady, Prescott, and Rodgers for me.

Stafford, Allen, Mahomes, and Jackson have all been very inconsistent to me.

Murry has missed multiple weeks from injury.

Maybe it's just me but I couldn't care less about MVPs, Pro Bowls, or any other individual honors.

Cowboyny said:

MM has QB school for all the QB's on the team. He has a hand in their development.

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We actually saw hard knocks, we understand the "QB room".
The QB room has zero to do with MM other than a desire to draft and place more depth there which we have seen hasn't happened.
Dallas is relying on guys they had prior to MM.
The QB's MM had a direct hand in selecting and a desire to develop via "QB school"; see Ben DiNucci, are long gone.
Dak doesn't watch film with MM, he doesn't get play calls from MM.

MM has been a very good walk around program leader here in Dallas.
But he pretty much scrapped any and all plans to guide or influence the offense right away.
Because it has been near top of the league under Kellen before he arrived and to this day.

MM's Dak interaction is to ask him how he feels and to listen when Dak lobbies to go for it.

MM has some general QB stuff he likes to do around drills and the like he picked up from his own days as a QB coach but trying to give him credit for Dak's "development" is just goofy.
Dak's footwork has been outstanding for a few years now after working off-seasons with Tom Brady's personal QB coach.
Dak passed for 4902 yards with 30 TDs and only 11 INT immediately BEFORE MM was hired.
Dallas made MM keep the offensive staff in place and they scrapped any plans to alter terminology to MM's system because of that success and now 13 games into playing under MM, Dak is basically the same guy.

MM's biggest impact has been the team playing with more emotion, especially on defense.
And being uber-aggressive which has broken both ways but in general helps set a tone.

Dak didn't practice much at all in 2020 because of COVID then injury.
In 2021 he had the injury as well in camp to reduce his practice reps.
Aaron Rodgers is a jerk but he is also right when he says don't give MM credit for my play.
AR came into the league well developed having had a monster collegiate development arc and off the charts athletic profile.
Don't put that same nonsense now on MM for Dak's play.
MM gets credit for choosing a head coaching gig where a franchise QB was already in place and then dumping all process stuff that had been in place for far too long.
But he absolutely deserves no credit for Dak's development which occurred before he ever even arrived.

KJJ said:

Matt Stafford has no shot. He’s looked awful the past two games tossing 4 INT’s compared to 2 TD’s. The Rams have dropped two straight.

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The question for the Rams and Stafford is if they have enough offense without Woods and can they vary the play calling enough.
They are so loaded on paper in talent but the last two games minus Woods have been ugly and Stafford has a long career of underwhelming results which psychologically has to work against him versus someone like Mahomes or Rodgers or Brady.

Ultimately the MVP usually comes down to the top 5 teams and the best offensive player among that group.
Stafford will be hard-pressed to assert himself as better than these other guys.

Zack Martin is not in the MVP race?


I swear this game is rigged.

Why limit the choices to only quarterbacks?

Brady has to be in that conversation, 27 tds and 7 ints

I honestly do not care in the slightest. I also believe there will be anti bias though towards any Cowboy... BUT, it wont bother me at all if he doesnt win it, I simply dont care. I want the TEAM to win MVP at the end of the season.