7 of 8 Penalties Occurred on 3rd Down for 58 Yards

Creeper said:

A lot of the penalties were deserved. The false start on Biadasz was absolutely a penalty. He made a move like the play was starting and that is a penalty. But what I cannot figure out is why the Cowboys were called for a neutral zone infraction when the Cards Center bobbed his head 3 times like he was snapping the ball. That should have been a penalty on them too. MM tried to argue with the refs but they let it go.

The holding call on Schultz was legit, as was the holding on Tyron. The PI on Wilson was also legit. I thought the holding calls on Williams and Collins were ticky tack and stuff they let OLmen get away with all the time. It was the calls they missed that hurt. the delay of game they missed. A defensive holding on a Cowboys running play that was really clear on the television replay. It was material since the DT held Connor Williams preventing him from getting out and blocking the LB who tackled the Cowboys RB at the LOS. But this happens every game. The Cowboys have to forget about it and move on. The perseverating over the refs has me concerned they are not focused on football.

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JeffInDC said:

See, that's what you and others DON'T seem to fathom - I've NEVER said Dak hasn't been playing well. But, when you try to diminish plays that he makes plays on to convert 3rd downs, only to have them called back by penalties...as if that doesn't matter to his overall play - that makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!! Has he been off? OF COURSE...but, you keep acting as if he's the ONLY ONE contributing to the bad play.

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blueblood70 said:

almost all of the ones gifted to raiders, same scenario. same results late 3point loss

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Creeper said:

The Cowboys have to forget about it and move on. The perseverating over the refs has me concerned they are not focused on football.

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khiladi said:

I already spent a significant amount of time dissecting Baldinger and Akoye’s ‘defense’ videos of Dak showing how garbage they were. Even Brian had to come out this week and say Dak is slow processing the field and missing open WRs in multiple scenarios, including when he has only one deep safety and man coverage and guys running wide open in crossing routes, which I pointed out when talking about the videos.

And Mahomes has won playoff games and SBs. Dak and his stans don’t have the luxury that Mahomes does to give him the benefit of the doubt. Dak drags the team down yearly and all his stans go on bashing the whole team other than him. And then they make ridiculous comparisons to guys that have actually won throughout their careers, whether it’s Mahomes, Brady or guys like Aikman…

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CalPolyTechnique said:

Don't these refs know we should not be called for penalties on critical downs?

BIASCISM!

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glimmerman said:

Hmmm. Just a thingy I guess. Those late ticky tack penalties are nothing. There was no fumble or sketchy PI that happened all game long. BUT. If I am MM I fire my buddy O-Line coach. We are sloppy and easy to call holding on. The long run Sunday called back by Shultz holding. He didn’t need to hold. Elliot would have ran through the hand he may have gotten on him. Sure turned the momentum of the game..

Your not going to like this but if Greg hits that 42 yarder early it would have changed a lot…

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blueblood70 said:

changed what the way we still lose because that was so early the cards just change the way they play the rest of the game. If he missed a game winner sure or one late in the 4th sure but this sint a Zuerlein , dak or zeke issue its an OL issue and a ref issue and Moore issue. it playing soft and easy to defend..

we had all game to make up for it lie the rams pick 6, 2 ints in the first half they overcame it..Bucs made comeback overcame 1st half issues, philly overcame bad first half to beat wft

Cinci made comeback, you saying our offense is so bad it couldn't overcome 3 points for 3 more qtrs?

lmao think about it , thinks reral deep. Early missed XP or fg doesn't really effect an outcome i watch a lot of football and that a fact,its the late mistakes you have no time to make up for that kills a team.

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Clove said:

If I'm Jerry, I try to prevent that crew from covering any of our games in the playoffs, and indeed, I'd try to prevent them from ref'ing in the playoffs all together...they are going to ruin the playoffs and ruin someone's season with all of those bull**** calls.

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Diehardblues said:

Holding penalties are tough and drive killers. I guess the alternative is letting the defender take dead aim on our QB.

Holding most often happens when player is beat and holds out of desperation.

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Cowboy-33 said:

I’ve said it for years. There is offensive holding on almost every play in the NFL. Slow it down and watch. It just depends on when a ref decides to pull his flag out and throw it. I don’t know how they can fix it at this point but it’s very frustrating when it seems like every time you have a thirty yard run on 3rd down and the ref decides this is the time the time pull the yellow hanky. I’m sure fans of every team are probably just as frustrated when it seems to happen to their team.

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Blackspider214 said:

Other teams are allowed to hold our pass rushers every single game/ Countless times in this past game, including one in the endzone that would have been a safety and our ball. Arizona scores a TD on that drive. We get called for phantom holds on 3rd downs on big runs. Hard to win close games with that. We are expected to overcome refs, when our opponents are not at all. Also, there was a run play where Connor was supposed to kick out and swing block. But he was blatantly held by the Arizona defender, causing a clear path for another defender to get a clean shot on Zeke in the backfield.

But all the goofballs on here tell us the game is called evenly and we just need to clean it up. EVERY game this is said/ No, we are not undisciplined. The refs absolutely call a different game for us and our opponent in every single game. If you can't see it by now and just call everyone a tin foil for mentioning it, then you are a lost cause and not worth having a conversation with.

I made a thread about it after the game. Officiating has killed my joy for this great game. I no longer feel that in game excitement on big plays. I have to temper to see if a yellow flag is going to be displayed on the screen. Every single big run we had Sunday was just this. It's pretty sad when you can go into every drive and be like "can't wait for the long run to get called back" and it happens like clockwork. And no one is suspicious about it at all? To the point where even the announcers scratch their heads on where the phantom hold was.

I feel like holding is the worst call in all of football. It happens in the middle of the scrum so it's hard to see to the naked eye. And these refs can call it whenever they please and literally nothing is done about it. They have zero accountability. It's sad when the replacement refs of years ago were absolutely no different quality than the ones we have now.

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Sydla said:

I assume this includes both offensive and defensive third downs, right?

And there were 10 penalties assessed on us, not 8:

1st Penalty - Smith hold on 3rd down
2nd Penalty - Biadasz false start on 3rd down
3rd Penalty - Collins hold on 3rd down
4th Penalty - Wright PI on fake punt on 4th down
5th Penalty - Wilson PI on 3rd down
6th Penalty - Schultz hold on 1st down
7th Penalty - Lawrence offsides on 3rd down
8th Penalty - Gregory offsides on 3rd down
9th Penalty - Williams hold on 3rd down
10th Penalty - Odighizuwa face mask on 1st down

There was also the delay of game, I believe on the 2 pointer which doesn't technically count I guess as an official penalty.

Unless I made mistake, that's 8 penalties on 3rd or 4th down. That's awful.

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Blackspider214 said:

I watch a lot of other NFL games. The bias is not there at all from game to game for the same team like it it us. Missed calls I see go against both teams in a game. Where as in our games, every single call is against us. Any big, situational call goes our opponents way. We never ever get any benefit of the doubt.

Remember the Vikings game? That was this crew. They called, what, 3-4 penalties in a row on the Vikings drive to give them the lead? The refs pretty much pushed them to a score. Where as a Vikings player can literally choke out Ceedee on the sideline and not only no flag, there was not even a fine. But Ceedee gets fined for waving to the defender after the NE game and their defender was allowed to cheap shot shove him as hard as he could.

Don't pretend this is a league wide thing. Yes, missed calls are league wide but in other games, both teams have to deal with, evening it out. In our games, only we have to deal with it. Huge difference. Maybe one day the others who call us tinfoils for pointing this out will see the light.

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Cowboy-33 said:

I’ve said it for years. There is offensive holding on almost every play in the NFL. Slow it down and watch. It just depends on when a ref decides to pull his flag out and throw it. I don’t know how they can fix it at this point but it’s very frustrating when it seems like every time you have a thirty yard run on 3rd down and the ref decides this is the time the time pull the yellow hanky. I’m sure fans of every team are probably just as frustrated when it seems to happen to their team.

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Clove said:

If I'm Jerry, I try to prevent that crew from covering any of our games in the playoffs, and indeed, I'd try to prevent them from ref'ing in the playoffs all together...they are going to ruin the playoffs and ruin someone's season with all of those bull**** calls.

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RoyalCowboy said:

This should be talked about more. I consider myself a neutral party with officiating as I have officials in my family but, those holding calls on key 3rd downs were suspect. I think I only saw 1 or 2 actual good holding calls in the game. Arizona to have none and the Cowboys with the majority of calls on 3rd downs, some of them they converted to first downs, I can understand why there is controversy about it. Regardless of your stance on this matter, officiating as a whole needs to be improved league wide. More specifically with accountability and integrity in my opinion.

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VaqueroTD said:

I remember how much Parcells used to talk about this. Under Campo and even before that after the Super Bowl dynasty, this team was full of excuses and penalties were a big part. Parcells talked nonstop about what he was doing in practice and drills to get discipline and not commit penalties during the big game. I’m pretty sure he was the first Dallas coach that started hiring officials to come watch our practice during their off time. Bottom line is he never allowed players to use it as a cop out. I’m not saying McCarthy does, But if the Tuna ever had a problem you could see it on the sideline right there as he argued with the ref. Remember when he told Todd Haley to shut up and let him handle it? It was always over and no player ever used it as an excuse for not winning or performing.

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