49ers are the blueprint for this team

JohnnyHopkins · Jan 18, 2022

Hard to copy the 49ers when we can't replace the front office

conner01 · Jan 18, 2022

nightrain said:
49ers and Titans.

Except of course the Cowboys pay a premium for their QB.

Let’s see that style actually win a SB before blowing up the roster
I’m betting both of those teams are watching the SB too

Carson · Jan 18, 2022

nightrain said:
49ers and Titans.

Except of course the Cowboys pay a premium for their QB.

What?

Jimmy G making $27 million against the cap this year
Tannehill's cap hit was $29.5 million and they restructured it down to $10.76. Next two years cap hits are $38 and $36 million.

This is how other teams do operate. Dallas isn't the only team in the league

conner01 · Jan 18, 2022

JohnnyHopkins said:
Hard to copy the 49ers when we can't replace the front office

The 49ers have won a wild card game
Let’s not over rate a team than won by six against a team that set the all time record for penalties

conner01 · Jan 18, 2022

SeanLee50 said:
What?

Jimmy G making $27 million against the cap this year
Tannehill's cap hit was $29.5 million and they restructured it down to $10.76. Next two years cap hits are $38 and $36 million.

This is how other teams do operate. Dallas isn't the only team in the league

There you go with those facts again

X550i · Jan 18, 2022

Havic said:
It isnt. He clearly hurt the team by trying to tough it out. Zeke is at fault but more importantly our coaches for allowing 1.8ypc to continue.

1.) Unless you know for a fact that the coaches told Zeke to sit, and then he went to Jerry and said 'I still want to play to overrule the coaches', then yes its a ridiculous take.

2.) Zeke got his money. Why risk your long term health so he doesn't lose his job? Everywhere I read on this board is, 'he got his money, that's why he sucks'. Again, ridiculous conclusion.

817Gill · Jan 18, 2022

Havic said:
The 49ers are built to succeed even with sub par QB play. How?

1. They are committed to running the ball well. WR's have to block if they want to be apart of the offense, same goes for tight ends.
2. This philosophy of having your WR's / TE's set the edge well means any running back off the street can succeed. We dont need to pay a RB 16 mil a season. We block well and any RB with talent will find success. Better yet, imagine what Pollard would do if he played for the 49ers?
3. Defensive line - They are stacked up front and dont need to blitz to get pressure to the QB.

Our offseason plans need to be focused on running the ball well so that our 40 mil QB can find success. We need to be investing in the O-line either via FA or draft, cut Cooper to resign some of the defense back, and get rid of Zeke. I dont care what the cap hit is at this point. The fact he played with torn PCL doesnt show toughness to me but selfishness in fear of losing his job to Pollard.

Yup, started a similar thread on this.

ElGatoGrande · Jan 18, 2022

Havic said:
The 49ers are built to succeed even with sub par QB play. How?

1. They are committed to running the ball well. WR's have to block if they want to be apart of the offense, same goes for tight ends.
2. This philosophy of having your WR's / TE's set the edge well means any running back off the street can succeed. We dont need to pay a RB 16 mil a season. We block well and any RB with talent will find success. Better yet, imagine what Pollard would do if he played for the 49ers?
3. Defensive line - They are stacked up front and dont need to blitz to get pressure to the QB.

Our offseason plans need to be focused on running the ball well so that our 40 mil QB can find success. We need to be investing in the O-line either via FA or draft, cut Cooper to resign some of the defense back, and get rid of Zeke. I dont care what the cap hit is at this point. The fact he played with torn PCL doesnt show toughness to me but selfishness in fear of losing his job to Pollard.

we used to have a coach that wanted those things and built up the OL, just needed for jerry to hire a decent defensive coordinator

phildadon86 · Jan 18, 2022

Havic said:
I think the defense played hard under Quinn. The offense lost confidence when we lost the ability to run. We played poorly as a result and that is often confused with not being hungry or physical enough. Truth is, we just are not that good of a team unless we have a balanced approach to give ourselves a chance. I did feel the culture changed here this year, the team was hungry and played with a chip on their shoulder, especially the defense.

Gregory was LAUGHING after being called for a penalty. To start the game. There are no lunch pail guys on this team. Nor any of our offense that is committed to blocking. Our best player in pass protection this season was Zeke. What does that tell you.

This team is full of fame seekers and laziness. Unless our coach starts instilling some fear in these guys, the penalties and lack of attitude will continue.

phildadon86 · Jan 18, 2022

ElGatoGrande said:
we used to have a coach that wanted those things and built up the OL, just needed for jerry to hire a decent defensive coordinator

Garrett was garbage. Please get out of here with that nonsense. Garrett is literally EVERYTHING that is wrong with this team. A guy who NEVER earned his stripes and got the biggest position in sports because of his connections. Sounds a bit like the VP of the team. You know. The owners son.

atlantacowboy · Jan 18, 2022

They have a smart GM. Blue print destroyed.

MyFairLady · Jan 18, 2022

Hate to break it to you but we are the exact opposite. 40 million dollar QB. All our money and draft picks tied up in RBs and WRs. We are built to pile up offensive stats and to sell jerseys and we do it better than anyone.

nightrain · Jan 18, 2022

SeanLee50 said:
What?

Jimmy G making $27 million against the cap this year
Tannehill's cap hit was $29.5 million and they restructured it down to $10.76. Next two years cap hits are $38 and $36 million.

This is how other teams do operate. Dallas isn't the only team in the league

You can't fault a player for the team's cap restructuring. Those salaries are where Dak should be.

conner01 said:
Let’s see that style actually win a SB before blowing up the roster
I’m betting both of those teams are watching the SB too

Advancing to the divisional round is a move in the right direction. 49ers were in the SB a couple of years ago. Not talking blowing up the roster.

CATCH17 · Jan 18, 2022

Aven8 said:
We actually use to be a team just like them sort of. Outside of the defense. We had some nice pieces on D but never really dominating. Murray than Zeke were studs early on.

I do agree we need to copy them and Tenny however. We just need a new OC to do it.

Yep… Until we have a real QB and not a middle of the road guy we have to play a 49ers brand of football.

You can’t win big games with Dak’s arm. He’ll get you nowhere.

49ers offense is the way.

CATCH17 · Jan 18, 2022

Nexx said:
and they wont win anything expect for the first round of the playoffs...

Sounds like an improvement.

JohnnyHopkins · Jan 18, 2022

conner01 said:
The 49ers have won a wild card game
Let’s not over rate a team than won by six against a team that set the all time record for penalties

Yeah, but ain't that the point? The 49ers did beat Dallas and off they go the the Dallas Cowboys Superbowl (the Divisional round). In the last ten years, they have hit the actual Superbowl twice and the Conference Championship three times. They are playing for stakes that this team can only dream of for decades running. Better to at least talk about emulating the 49ers than to stick our noses upward while they and other well run organizations walk over us year after year.

BleedSilverandBlue · Jan 18, 2022

Havic said:
The 49ers are built to succeed even with sub par QB play. How?

1. They are committed to running the ball well. WR's have to block if they want to be apart of the offense, same goes for tight ends.
2. This philosophy of having your WR's / TE's set the edge well means any running back off the street can succeed. We dont need to pay a RB 16 mil a season. We block well and any RB with talent will find success. Better yet, imagine what Pollard would do if he played for the 49ers?
3. Defensive line - They are stacked up front and dont need to blitz to get pressure to the QB.

Our offseason plans need to be focused on running the ball well so that our 40 mil QB can find success. We need to be investing in the O-line either via FA or draft, cut Cooper to resign some of the defense back, and get rid of Zeke. I dont care what the cap hit is at this point. The fact he played with torn PCL doesnt show toughness to me but selfishness in fear of losing his job to Pollard.

Absolutely. I believe we need to shift paradigms on offense back to how we used to play in the best years in the 2010s. We need to commit to building a dominant run game with a complimentary passing game. Dak is more than capable of running an offense like Jimmy G and can do it at an even higher level than him. When you ask him to be something he isn't and throw the ball all over the field anticipating receivers open is where you run into issues.

We also are probably a handful of players away from building a dominant defense. A DT or two and a little help at safety and corner and we are suddenly a force to be reckoned with on the defensive side of the ball.

The blueprint is there, but are our stupid coaching staff and GM capable of seeing the truth and maximizing our potential with the personnel we have? I do not think so.

Doomsday · Jan 18, 2022

You need an offensive coordinator willing to commit to the run not use it as a sideshow.

We had one drive where they brought in extra offensive linemen and they ran the ball really well then we never saw it again.

CowboyRoy · Jan 18, 2022

Havic said:
The 49ers are built to succeed even with sub par QB play. How?

1. They are committed to running the ball well. WR's have to block if they want to be apart of the offense, same goes for tight ends.
2. This philosophy of having your WR's / TE's set the edge well means any running back off the street can succeed. We dont need to pay a RB 16 mil a season. We block well and any RB with talent will find success. Better yet, imagine what Pollard would do if he played for the 49ers?
3. Defensive line - They are stacked up front and dont need to blitz to get pressure to the QB.

Our offseason plans need to be focused on running the ball well so that our 40 mil QB can find success. We need to be investing in the O-line either via FA or draft, cut Cooper to resign some of the defense back, and get rid of Zeke. I dont care what the cap hit is at this point. The fact he played with torn PCL doesnt show toughness to me but selfishness in fear of losing his job to Pollard.

We should focus on defense and running the ball. Which means revamping the line, getting TE's in here that can block and getting at least two RB's in here and Zeke gone.

BleedSilverandBlue · Jan 18, 2022

MyFairLady said:
Hate to break it to you but we are the exact opposite. 40 million dollar QB. All our money and draft picks tied up in RBs and WRs. We are built to pile up offensive stats and to sell jerseys and we do it better than anyone.

Yes but we can reform into a team like the 49ers in no more than one or two offseason. We have the pieces in place to make it a quicker transition than you might think. Unfortunately Jerry will never let it happen.

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