Anyone worried about JJ forcing OL draft?

Carson · Apr 13, 2022

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CouchCoach · Apr 13, 2022

Some teams get into such a critical need at position that they really have to take a chance on a player. The Giants did that at WR last draft and the Eagles did that the previous draft with Reagor and traded up in the next one to get Smith. They had to solve the problem. The Lions did that 3 drafts in a row to get Calvin Johnson.

Some positional problems cannot be solved in one off season. The Cowboys have a need at LG and maybe at RT right now. LT is a problem waiting to happen.

The objective should be to solve the problem, trading up if necessary. Because the Cowboys are not the only team that knows they have this problem.

Doomsday101 · Apr 13, 2022

btcutter said:
Not really. If they are really BPA then fine. What if a top LB falls to us and we bypass him for G? Or DE?

Then there is a chance Dallas will take them. Jerry has talked about getting an edge rusher should it present itself. LB again possible if a top player fell and I would add DT to that should Jordan Davis fall. I think OL is a need and thankfully this is a deep draft for OL, should a top OL player fall to us I would not be shocked to Dallas take them but I do believe their are other options out there at different position should those player drop to 24.

atlantacowboy · Apr 13, 2022

btcutter said:
I am worried that the Cowboys will draft a G in the 1st round based on need. Spin will be G is the BPA on Cowboys board.

History of Cowboy drafting based on need has been poor. Taco in the first round. Trystin Hill in 2nd. Joseph in 2nd (jury still out).

When Cowboys draft BPA it's worked out well. Parson, Martin.....Emmitt Smith.

1st round G at bottom of 1st hasn't been locks to perform well in NFL. I am praying front office stick to their BPA board as we have so many needs on the team.

Nobody is in favor of reaching for a player unworthy of the draft position. We have so many holes that I imagine the cowboys will be closely following their board. Current needs are OL, DT, DE, LB, and WR. About the only dumb thing we could do in round is draft a rb.

Carson · Apr 13, 2022

btcutter said:
I am worried that the Cowboys will draft a G in the 1st round based on need. Spin will be G is the BPA on Cowboys board.

History of Cowboy drafting based on need has been poor. Taco in the first round. Trystin Hill in 2nd. Joseph in 2nd (jury still out).

When Cowboys draft BPA it's worked out well. Parson, Martin.....Emmitt Smith.

1st round G at bottom of 1st hasn't been locks to perform well in NFL. I am praying front office stick to their BPA board as we have so many needs on the team.

Kenyon Green or Zion Johnson are both excellent picks at 24

Vinnie2u · Apr 13, 2022

Best player available DE, DT, LB, OT, OG and you can't go wrong.. WR's you can find 2-4...

btcutter · Apr 13, 2022

Vinnie2u said:
Best Player Available DE, DT, LB, OT, OG and you can't go wrong.. WR's you can find 2-4...

Hard to disagree with that logic. :clap:

btcutter · Apr 13, 2022

Doomsday101 said:
Then there is a chance Dallas will take them. Jerry has talked about getting an edge rusher should it present itself. LB again possible if a top player fell and I would add DT to that should Jordan Davis fall. I think OL is a need and thankfully this is a deep draft for OL, should a top OL player fall to us I would not be shocked to Dallas take them but I do believe their are other options out there at different position should those player drop to 24.

I don't know if FO will even draft a 1 tech in the 1st round ever. They just don't appears to value that position.

If Dean falls to 24 and we have to choose between him and one of the G......I think FO will just take OL because of need.

Rayman70 · Apr 13, 2022

I'm not worried. I'm way beyond that stuff. Right now all we can do is pray we can duplicate the success we had last 2 years drafting and complete the trifecta. I really don't care which round we draft a guard or tackle, JUST that we draft 1 or 2.

stilltheguru · Apr 13, 2022

jazzcat22 said:
Not really. I think they go WR over OL if one of the top 5 WR's are there. After the top 5, supposedly there is a significant drop off at WR. As to more depth with OL.

Yalls fav draft guy brugler has Burks 21 and Zion 22. If you take Burks because he's 1 spot higher that's pretty sad and exposes why the bpa with no nuance thought process is dumb

jazzcat22 · Apr 13, 2022

stilltheguru said:
Yalls fav draft guy brugler has Burks 21 and Zion 22. If you take Burks because he's 1 spot higher that's pretty sad and exposes why the bpa with no nuance thought process is dumb

Not saying I agree with them taking a WR, just saying that is my feeling.
I would prefer Zion in this case hands down.

JPM · Apr 13, 2022

I worry about lots of things when it comes to JJ.

BleedSilverandBlue · Apr 13, 2022

Adreme said:
Parsons was a pick based on need (though they needed just about every defensive position). Diggs was also a pick based on need. There is no such thing as picking purely BPA. Nobody does that. Teams pick the BPA at a position of need.

Arguably the Parsons pick was totally a BPA situation. The dude was a bonafide top 3 talent that slid all the way to 11 at a position that Dallas could use a little help at, but at that point in time thought was manned pretty well (LVE & Jaylon). In most situations I believe in taking the best player on the board unless you have a hold so glaring it must be filled with a reach.

Remember, picking strictly for need is how we ended up with Taco (a pretty significant reach).

BleedSilverandBlue · Apr 13, 2022

stilltheguru said:
Yalls fav draft guy brugler has Burks 21 and Zion 22. If you take Burks because he's 1 spot higher that's pretty sad and exposes why the bpa with no nuance thought process is dumb

BPA almost exclusively refers to taking a player that is graded significantly higher than the draft slot he has fallen to. Think CeeDee or Micah. Both are prime examples. You don't let a 1 slot difference in grade change your mind, but if a top 10-15 talent slides to 24, it would be foolish not to take them.

Doomsday101 · Apr 13, 2022

btcutter said:
I don't know if FO will even draft a 1 tech in the 1st round ever. They just don't appears to value that position.

If Dean falls to 24 and we have to choose between him and one of the G......I think FO will just take OL because of need.

I don't agree not with Quinn running defense. I think they will try to get what he needs. As for OL, I can think of 3 to 4 OL men who will be 1st rd picks and I would hope if any of them on on the board that Cowboys will look to take them.

stilltheguru · Apr 13, 2022

jazzcat22 said:
Not saying I agree with them taking a WR, just saying that is my feeling.
I would prefer Zion in this case hands down.

Yeah if it's online Zion should be the choice unless somebody falls that is obvious bpa. Round 2 I'm taking 1 of Drake Jackson, Bonito or Sam Williams regardless. After that they can do what they want

jrumann59 · Apr 13, 2022

Outside of OC and LT you can find above OL anywhere in the draft.

Adreme · Apr 13, 2022

BleedSilverandBlue said:
Arguably the Parsons pick was totally a BPA situation. The dude was a bonafide top 3 talent that slid all the way to 11 at a position that Dallas could use a little help at, but at that point in time thought was manned pretty well (LVE & Jaylon). In most situations I believe in taking the best player on the board unless you have a hold so glaring it must be filled with a reach.

Remember, picking strictly for need is how we ended up with Taco (a pretty significant reach).

So if the Cowboys had picked TJ Watt instead, for exactly the same position, would it still have been wrong? After all it is still purely drafting on need.

BleedSilverandBlue · Apr 13, 2022

Adreme said:
So if the Cowboys had picked TJ Watt instead, for exactly the same position, would it still have been wrong? After all it is still purely drafting on need.

What I'm saying is that typically dudes that grade out highly have a better chance of turning into good NFL players. That fact is pretty much indisputable and there is a reason that most NFL stars come from the first handful of rounds. The entire league missed on TJ Watt and that is no secret. You will still get good players picking for need, but you can have better players picking BPA.

CowboyRoy · Apr 13, 2022

btcutter said:
I am worried that the Cowboys will draft a G in the 1st round based on need. Spin will be G is the BPA on Cowboys board.

History of Cowboy drafting based on need has been poor. Taco in the first round. Trystin Hill in 2nd. Joseph in 2nd (jury still out).

When Cowboys draft BPA it's worked out well. Parson, Martin.....Emmitt Smith.

1st round G at bottom of 1st hasn't been locks to perform well in NFL. I am praying front office stick to their BPA board as we have so many needs on the team.

Ironically the Cowboys #1 need lines up perfectly with the area of the draft we are in. In the mid 20s is where all the best interior lineman are available and start going. DE, not so much. Its more a DE I am worried about them reaching for. If they can get one of those top 2 guards or the top Center it will be a great pick that fills our greatest need.

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