Happy Birthday to the Big Tuna

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Pass2Run said:
You've got a lot of spunk for someone 81.

My dad is 77. He's sort of the same way.

Cheers to you, good buddy.
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Thanks, I've heard that many times before, by fellas that I worked with at the newspaper I was working for as a printer. I stood up to guys twice my size who tried to buffalo me. One youngster told me I was full of spunk just like my dad, who also worked for that paper. I may never change, even if there are times when I probably should. Patience isn't always my forte, sorry to say.

I've always been stubborn enough to make a stand for what I've believed in, even if it cost me some unfortunate repercussions afterward. My dad was exactly the same, even bolder. Ditto, my older brother. I like myself, through it all, and feel it's something we all need for our happiness. Communicating with my friends here means a lot and always will. We all need friends. ;)
 
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That's when I realized that Jerry didn't care about winning SB's. What a big disppointment going from the Tuna to Wade.
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I was sadly disappointed in that situation, as well. Right from the start, it seemed evident that Wade wouldn't be any more of a disciplinarian than what his dad was. Bum's teams were always prone to making the excessive miscues that cost them too many games. Wade was an apple that didn't fall far from that tree, in the least.

If that wasn't enough, he allowed Jerry to take over too many things that were a HC's duty to attend to. The HC job takes a high level of command that Wade sadly lacked as HC. He proved a weak HC, despite being so good as a DC. Let's hope that won't apply, if Quinn gets the HC job.
 
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He rebuilt this team on the run, squeezing 10-6 and a playoff berth out of Quincy Carter and the other bums he inherited his first season and leaving us the most talented roster in the NFC when he left. We were a clown show when he arrived and Super Bowl favorites when he left.
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I loved the Parcells years, but by your evaluation he couldn't win even a single playoff game with the best roster in the NFC and a team considered "Super Bowl favorites?" How does that work?
 
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I loved the Parcells years, but by your evaluation he couldn't win even a single playoff game with the best roster in the NFC and a team considered "Super Bowl favorites?" How does that work?
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The Seattle game was weird. I think the feeling of many at the time was that if we got past that game we'd have made a deep run.

In any case, do you deny that entering the 2007 and 2008 seasons we were among the NFC favorites for the Super Bowl?
 
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PA Cowboy Fan said:
That's when I realized that Jerry didn't care about winning SB's. What a big disppointment going from the Tuna to Wade.
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He made Garrett his first order of business before hiring the HC. They really went from Bill to Jerry. Wade was just a figurehead in a ridiculous setup. Sucks cause that team could’ve made some noise with competent management.
 
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My wife and I were seated right next to the side line when Bill Parcells walked into the Alamo Dome for his very first Cowboys training camp practice...hooooah! (ground level)
 
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The Seattle game was weird. I think the feeling of many at the time was that if we got past that game we'd have made a deep run.
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But that's all speculation. Fact is, they didn't beat a pretty middling #4 seed that lost the very next week.

In any case, do you deny that entering the 2007 and 2008 seasons we were among the NFC favorites for the Super Bowl?
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In 2008, after the 13-3 year, they were. They weren't in 2007. That year was a surprise to most people. Most people thought we'd fall off when Parcells left (as did I).
 
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Chocolate Lab said:
I loved the Parcells years, but by your evaluation he couldn't win even a single playoff game with the best roster in the NFC and a team considered "Super Bowl favorites?" How does that work?
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It doesn't, necessarily. For one thing the team he inherited wasn't a collective culture that he would have improved with more time to do so. For another, Bill was too ultra-conservative in his approach to calling a winning game with that conservative approach. That's simply my opinion, as opposed to what might be otherwise considered as undeniable. The available talent wasn't one that could afford to be very conservative.

He also inherited a team that was culturally far less than ideal. It's anyone's guess if that team, under the auspices of any leadership at the time would be blessed with winning it all or even having deep playoff success. SB champs are not easily created in short periods of time with a team that had far too long been removed from being of championship caliber.
 
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Looking at campo’s dismal record , Why was Chan gailey fired after 2 seasons. 10-6 and 8-8 ? Campo had 3 5-11 seasons !!
 
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Looking at campo’s dismal record , Why was Chan gailey fired after 2 seasons. 10-6 and 8-8 ? Campo had 3 5-11 seasons !!
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Jerry probably realized that Gailey wasn’t a puppet and moved on.
 
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Bill Parcells - 6th Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Took over after three straight 5-11 seasons.
Three winning seasons out of four; 34-30 regular season record; two wildcard playoff berths.
Witten, Romo, and Ware joined the team under his tenure. (CZers - feel free to list other notable Cowboys players that came aboard under his watch.)
Got the franchise back to a somewhat competive mode in this century.
81 years - hoping he is aging well.
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Sean Payton, Todd Bowles, Anthony Lynn, Dan Campbell, Tony Sparano, Terrence Newman (Pro Bowler), Bradie James (6 consecutive seasons leading in tackles), made Quincy Carter a playoff caliber QB, Terry Glenn (2 consecutive 1K seasons), Julius Jones (All Rookie), Marion Barber (Pro Bowler), made Greg Ellis a Pro Bowl OLB, Jay Ratliff (Pro Bowler), Chris Canty (Super Bowl Champ), Keyshawn Johnson ( consecutive 70 catch seasons), Scott Fujita (Super Bowl Champ), Anthony Henry, Jason Hatcher (last DT to make the Pro Bowl for the Cowboys), Miles Austin (Pro Bowler), Terrell Owens (Pro Bowler HOF), Jeff Ireland, and Todd Haley are the ones that come to mind.

Had Jerry Dumbo GM Jones left Parcells alone he would have taken this group to a Super Bowl.
 
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Sean Payton, Todd Bowles, Anthony Lynn, Dan Campbell, Tony Sparano, Terrence Newman (Pro Bowler), Bradie James (6 consecutive seasons leading in tackles), made Quincy Carter a playoff caliber QB, Terry Glenn (2 consecutive 1K seasons), Julius Jones (All Rookie), Marion Barber (Pro Bowler), made Greg Ellis a Pro Bowl OLB, Jay Ratliff (Pro Bowler), Chris Canty (Super Bowl Champ), Keyshawn Johnson ( consecutive 70 catch seasons), Scott Fujita (Super Bowl Champ), Anthony Henry, Jason Hatcher (last DT to make the Pro Bowl for the Cowboys), Miles Austin (Pro Bowler), Terrell Owens (Pro Bowler HOF), Jeff Ireland, and Todd Haley are the ones that come to mind.

Had Jerry Dumbo GM Jones left Parcells alone he would have taken this group to a Super Bowl.
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Kudos to you, eromeopolk, for listing the players and coaches that Parcells brought in to the Cowboys that helped turn the team around.
 
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Motorola said:
Bill Parcells - 6th Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys.
Took over after three straight 5-11 seasons.
Three winning seasons out of four; 34-30 regular season record; two wildcard playoff berths.
Witten, Romo, and Ware joined the team under his tenure. (CZers - feel free to list other notable Cowboys players that came aboard under his watch.)
Got the franchise back to a somewhat competive mode in this century.
81 years - hoping he is aging well.
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He was a great coach and he did bring some toughness and physical players to the team. All of his teams over the years had a certain toughness to them and he was the last coach in Dallas that coaches physical football. It was great seeing the team’s identity becoming that of a rough and tough team that played with heart. Dallas needs a younger coach that wants that identity.
 
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Ridiculous. He rebuilt this team on the run, squeezing 10-6 and a playoff berth out of Quincy Carter and the other bums he inherited his first season and leaving us the most talented roster in the NFC when he left. We were a clown show when he arrived and Super Bowl favorites when he left. With a better successor coach, we might have gotten that Super Bowl.
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Seriously. I know fair weather is the nature of the fan, but just amazes me how people hate on a legend like Parcells. Turned trash into gold here.

One of my best Cowboys memories of the last 30+ years was the news that Jerry and Parcells were on a plane talking contract.
 
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