Murray advice to Zeke

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Zordon said:
meh i'd call it a respectable contract. 400 carries and you want him to take less than Witten? child please.
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Yes. Because RB is the least intelligent position on offense to give big money because it's so easy to get cheap quality production.
 

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Howboutdemcowboys31 said:
NFL man on the year, 10 or more pro bowls, top 3 in most if not all tight end statistics, most consecutive games started as a Cowboy are the facts
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That award bares the name of a serial adulterer(allegedly). Big deal.. He was an alternate for 4 of those pro bowls, so he's really a 6 time pro bowler. I'm not impressed by hollow, inflated numbers.
 
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BARRYRAY said:
I know everybody loves Witten hope he doesn't teach him the third and nine stop after 8 yards pass pattern.Witten has become a master of that.
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Become? He mastered that a decade ago! Seattle playoff game.
 
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Toruk_Makto said:
Yes. Because RB is the least intelligent position on offense to give big money because it's so easy to get cheap quality production.
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That is pretty much the opinion you have maintained since the Murray debacle began toward the end of 2014. However, I submit the reasoning behind opinions like yours are not so much originated by the person with the opinion, but the press, who represents the spoon-fed opiate of the league that running back is passe and not worth the money.

Lots of points, lots of action, lots of interest. Thus the rules favoring passing.

Meaning the influence of the information on sport's shows represent itself as a reality of the league's thinking, and is then echoed by fans who nod along. This seed was planted, right or wrong.Then it is regurgitated on message boards like this one as an immutable truth..

Normally by the fan who wants to appear to others like he is in the know, or is one of those glassy-eyed fans who find thinking for themselves to be a labor that doesn't suit.

An example is "defense wins championship." This is something you see here, because it is portrayed as fact. If that were the case, then the 1985 Bears did not need Payton and that offense since the defense was clearly superior to every other offense in the league.

But, and this is key. Going forward, were the Cowboys to utilize Elliot in a similar fashion to Murray, and within the next few years win the Super Bowl, you would see a rush of teams bolstering their offensive line and drafting running backs near the top of the first round. The league would then come to a belief a dominant running game, married to an efficient passing game, is the new road to success.

So many in the press claim this is a copycat league. And the only reason the league did not follow the path of the 2014 Cowboys was the results of that season.

Murray leaving this team and going to the Eagles offers a false support of the fallacy that the running game is not important. Passing is the be-all end-all for some. Had Murray been retained by the Cowboys, the likelihood of Romo's injury and resultant seasonal outcome could very well be vastly different since defenses didn't have a clear cut objective of "break Romo" since Murray created the 8 in a box response to the Dallas running game.

More to the point, this board was filled with armchair experts professing with their charts and graphs how the passing game is all important, and just any schlub in a uniform could gain the needed yards behind this line because of said passing game. They further expounded the ball control notion was a myth slain by mathematical factions they reported here in posts.

But then the people who played the game working for the NFL channel, or in some cases were actual GM's in the league at one time, just prior to the draft suggested the running attack is still a fearsome weapon in the arsenal of the offense. This was followed up by the praise of the selection of Elliott by ESPN and NFLN when he was selected 4th over-all.

I discount the value pick theory since Montana or Brady would still have been just as valuable had they been selected 1st over-all, as would E. Smith, R Staubach and many others. The value is again a mathematical equation which is still based on an opinion.

To sum up, your comment here about the intelligence of this pick is no more or less accurate than any fan on this board. Me included. And less likely to be correct since we all are simply fans who, when watching the game on TV, don't even see the entire field when the ball is snapped.

We live in a bubble of fiction, created by the league to garner interest, by concealing their truth because they have competitors, and espoused by the press who is complicit.

Sort of sounds like the BS slung about politics, doesn't it?
 
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TwoDeep3 said:
That is pretty much the opinion you have maintained since the Murray debacle began toward the end of 2014. However, I submit the reasoning behind opinions like yours are not so much originated by the person with the opinion, but the press, who represents the spoon-fed opiate of the league that running back is passe and not worth the money.

Lots of points, lots of action, lots of interest. Thus the rules favoring passing.

Meaning the influence of the information on sport's shows represent itself as a reality of the league's thinking, and is then echoed by fans who nod along. This seed was planted, right or wrong.Then it is regurgitated on message boards like this one as an immutable truth..

Normally by the fan who wants to appear to others like he is in the know, or is one of those glassy-eyed fans who find thinking for themselves to be a labor that doesn't suit.

An example is "defense wins championship." This is something you see here, because it is portrayed as fact. If that were the case, then the 1985 Bears did not need Payton and that offense since the defense was clearly superior to every other offense in the league.

But, and this is key. Going forward, were the Cowboys to utilize Elliot in a similar fashion to Murray, and within the next few years win the Super Bowl, you would see a rush of teams bolstering their offensive line and drafting running backs near the top of the first round. The league would then come to a belief a dominant running game, married to an efficient passing game, is the new road to success.

So many in the press claim this is a copycat league. And the only reason the league did not follow the path of the 2014 Cowboys was the results of that season.

Murray leaving this team and going to the Eagles offers a false support of the fallacy that the running game is not important. Passing is the be-all end-all for some. Had Murray been retained by the Cowboys, the likelihood of Romo's injury and resultant seasonal outcome could very well be vastly different since defenses didn't have a clear cut objective of "break Romo" since Murray created the 8 in a box response to the Dallas running game.

More to the point, this board was filled with armchair experts professing with their charts and graphs how the passing game is all important, and just any schlub in a uniform could gain the needed yards behind this line because of said passing game. They further expounded the ball control notion was a myth slain by mathematical factions they reported here in posts.

But then the people who played the game working for the NFL channel, or in some cases were actual GM's in the league at one time, just prior to the draft suggested the running attack is still a fearsome weapon in the arsenal of the offense. This was followed up by the praise of the selection of Elliott by ESPN and NFLN when he was selected 4th over-all.

I discount the value pick theory since Montana or Brady would still have been just as valuable had they been selected 1st over-all, as would E. Smith, R Staubach and many others. The value is again a mathematical equation which is still based on an opinion.

To sum up, your comment here about the intelligence of this pick is no more or less accurate than any fan on this board. Me included. And less likely to be correct since we all are simply fans who, when watching the game on TV, don't even see the entire field when the ball is snapped.

We live in a bubble of fiction, created by the league to garner interest, by concealing their truth because they have competitors, and espoused by the press who is complicit.

Sort of sounds like the BS slung about politics, doesn't it?
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If by the press you mean statistics and history...then yes.
 
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Going to philly would be ok outside of a sports context as in generap people there are ok. The sports fans are subhuman though, so if you go there in that context, it is dumb...and probably immoral.
 
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mattjames2010 said:
You've never been offered 50 mil let alone 5. I really laugh at people thinking they really know how they'd be in a situation like this. 50 mil gives you far more security than 5 in today's world, it's logical to take the 50 mil.
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With $5 mil I would buy 84,745 shares of $O which pays a monthly dividend of $0.20 per share.

That means my monthly income would be $16,878 ($202,540 per year) and I'd sit on the couch and spend all my time replying to your posts and posting "HAHAHAHA" to every one of em.
 
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stilltheguru88 said:
People still say this nonsense? Get over yourself hypocrite. any real mans goal is to take care of his family as best he can. Grow up
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If my family needs $50 mil to live on over $5 mil, then I am taking care of them incorrectly.

if I had $5 mil, Id make over $200k a year literally doing nothing.
 

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50 mill vs 5 mill isnt even a choice at all for me. Yall acting crazy if you think most woulnt take the pay increase like that for "team loyalty", especially when the RB position is so short.
 
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