The unplanned decline of the NFL

YosemiteSam

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I watched three games last year and I've watched ZERO games this year.

I have already figured out that I can easily do without the NFL based on the last two years. Sundays used to be synonymous with NFL for me. Today, I don't even think about it except when I come here and see the relentless complaining about it.

I'm not a fan of drama. I do not miss the NFL. I very well could be done with it, but given my years of dedication and love for the game in the past. It's a little difficult to say with absolution that I am done. It took me probably four years before I could outright say I was done with the NBA, but I finally did around 2008. I didn't watch a single game even when the Mavericks won the championship in 2011.

The NFL's front office, just like the NBA's front office did. They took all enjoyment of watching away and just left a husk of what I used to enjoy so much....

btw, Hardline is COMPLETELY wrong. The lost viewers due to political reasons in minimal. The loss in viewership started way before that BS did.
 

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Yep, I live and breath Cowboys football, and at this point, even I'm starting to lose interest - at least in the season. I'm just tired off all the BS. It's not fun, and it's grating.

This is me. Been a Cowboys fan for as long as I can remember. Grew up in Commanders territory. Went on family vacation to DC in 1982 decked out in Cowboys gear when we ultimately lost to the Commanders 31-17 in the NFC Championship game. I remember asking museum security guards for updates on the game as we toured the mall and museums. Was a Sunday Ticket subscriber for 10+ years until this year. Cancelled due to the protests and disrespectful comments from players, Delanie Walker in particular. No more.

As @Reality described, I used to watch (or at least have on) every game I could on Thurs, Sun and Mon. No more. Now I watch the Cowboys only. It makes me mad because I still love football. I just can't support the current product beyond Cowboys games.
 

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Good post Reality.

The fundamental mistake the league has made was to try to reach out to non-football fans to grow their market with the assumption that their die hard fans would stick with them.

It never dawned on them that by reaching out to people who don't care about the game, they alienated hard core fans like those on this very forum.


Now the NFL is in a position where long time fans are turning away from the game while the people they were trying to attract still couldn't care less.
It can be judged as a mistake but it can be defined as a judgment error predicated by economic necessity. In the early 1990's, the league moved from Plan B free agency to true free agency. Salaries expense was better controlled by the former but the latter could only be sustained if revenues could be exponentially increased annually.

That goal would not be realistically accomplished by continued marketing to the core consumer. The league was forced to vastly increase its market beyond the narrow demographic that build and sustained its brand for decades. Certainly, profit was a financial motivator as well but profit alone did not mandate attracting every conceivably available Tom, Dick and Jane fan--which has greatly (and artificially) inflated the league's fan base.
 

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When it comes to changing the entertainment interests of a large number of people, "movements" just don't work. Things like billboard campaigns and organized calls for people to "don't go to events" or "don't watch it on TV" have very little short term effects and almost no long term effects against whatever the target is.

The problem is that, while important, most so-called issues are just not deal breakers for most people, especially not to the loyal fans. How many Get-Rid-Of-____ posts did we see on CZ back in the 2000's? Three 5-11 years in a row .. for the COWBOYS!?!? Yet, the NFL and Dallas Cowboys just kept getting more popular and more valuable. Movements, petitions, promotions, campaigns, etc. just don't have any long term effects like people think or hope they do.

So, what does push long time fans away from something they adore? A decline in entertainment or enjoyment value more than anything, but that is rarely a quick process. That is when bad decisions lead to a decline in quality over time, with a large part of it going unnoticed early on except by a few "Wolf! cryers" until one day it just hits you, "What happened to this?"

There is one thing of course that will push long time fans away more quickly, and that is when decisions are made that either greatly change or negatively affect the product/service/entertainment or that deeply offend or upset the fans. For example, when Jerry fired Landry, especially the way he did it, it drove a lot of older fans away from the team who have never returned. Younger fans were upset as well, but the Super Bowl wins a few years later helped bring a lot them back into the fold.

In a more current example, Cowboys fans are losing interest in the NFL because of a perceived bias against the team over the last few years, culminated by the unjustified suspension of Ezekiel Elliott. While that in itself is not enough to drive Cowboys fans away from the team itself, many Cowboys fans' views of the NFL are way more negative and tainted these days. For example, I do not watch NFL games unless the Cowboys are playing, where I used to watch NFL games almost every time they were on.

The world of entertainment is changing. People are moving away from scheduled-based TV and moving more toward on-demand entertainment. That last big hold-out for scheduled-based entertainment has been sporting events, with the NFL dominating that market for the last few decades. However, with the change in how people view and want entertainment combined with all of the missteps,. mistakes and decisions the NFL has been making in recent years along with a noticeable decrease in quality of the NFL as a whole, are starting to impact the NFL's long time untouchable popularity.

For example, ten years ago, if a network cancelled your favorite TV show, you might have been upset, but you looked for and eventually found a replacement for it. Now, because most people are wanting more control and freedom in their lives, people are moving away from scheduled TV shows and TV in general. So, when a network cancels a show you like, you get upset, but then you soon realize that's another 30-60 minutes of your life each week that's no longer tied up with something usually 13-24 weeks out of the year.

For me, the NFL is the same way. In the past, my Sundays, Monday nights and Thursday nights were usually tied up with watching NFL games, either directly or casually while doing something else. Now, I only have one game a week I watch and in many cases, I am doing something else while the game is on, which I never did in the past while watching Cowboys games. Watching Cowboys games used to be a mental break for me from the rest of my busy schedule. I watched Cowboys games, and even the commercials, from start to finish. Now, I find myself sometimes wondering things like, "How did they get the ball back so quickly?" or "How did they get up/down by 3?"

People's entertainment interests have been changing for a while. Unlike many forms of entertainment, the NFL seemed to be shielded (pun intended) from those changes, but cracks have been appearing the last few years, and it seems like this year, the cracks are about to be replaced by gaping holes as fans and viewers leave.

The decline of the NFL has already started and given how long the process has been in motion, I cannot see any way it recovers. At best, the NFL needs to start making better decisions and providing teams with a better way to field more competitive teams if they want to hold on to what they still have.

100% agree. Nice write-up. The free time is nice.
 

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Absolutely.

I'm a 30 y/o who grew up watching all football in my younger years, now, after buying a house and realizing $160 for cable and internet is unnecessary and non essential I cut the cord about a year ago. I put $100 in my pocket and stream everything. Netflix , Showbox and OTA channels supply everything.
This has lead to the NFL losing priority in my life, my family now does things on Sundays and I don't stress if I miss a game. NFL Network no longer gets my views, same thing with ESPN. Imagine if 5 million other people repeated what I did. That hurt not only the NFL but other broadcast stations.
If the NFL wants to stop the bleeding off, they need to simply cut back on all of the marketing to outside countries and markets. We don't need weekly Thursday game and 100 London games. Make local teams cut prices on tickets to get the blue collar people being able to afford a trip to see their local teams. Easier said than done, but the NBA and NHL have done so..
 

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When it comes to changing the entertainment interests of a large number of people, "movements" just don't work. Things like billboard campaigns and organized calls for people to "don't go to events" or "don't watch it on TV" have very little short term effects and almost no long term effects against whatever the target is.

The problem is that, while important, most so-called issues are just not deal breakers for most people, especially not to the loyal fans. How many Get-Rid-Of-____ posts did we see on CZ back in the 2000's? Three 5-11 years in a row .. for the COWBOYS!?!? Yet, the NFL and Dallas Cowboys just kept getting more popular and more valuable. Movements, petitions, promotions, campaigns, etc. just don't have any long term effects like people think or hope they do.

So, what does push long time fans away from something they adore? A decline in entertainment or enjoyment value more than anything, but that is rarely a quick process. That is when bad decisions lead to a decline in quality over time, with a large part of it going unnoticed early on except by a few "Wolf! cryers" until one day it just hits you, "What happened to this?"

There is one thing of course that will push long time fans away more quickly, and that is when decisions are made that either greatly change or negatively affect the product/service/entertainment or that deeply offend or upset the fans. For example, when Jerry fired Landry, especially the way he did it, it drove a lot of older fans away from the team who have never returned. Younger fans were upset as well, but the Super Bowl wins a few years later helped bring a lot them back into the fold.

In a more current example, Cowboys fans are losing interest in the NFL because of a perceived bias against the team over the last few years, culminated by the unjustified suspension of Ezekiel Elliott. While that in itself is not enough to drive Cowboys fans away from the team itself, many Cowboys fans' views of the NFL are way more negative and tainted these days. For example, I do not watch NFL games unless the Cowboys are playing, where I used to watch NFL games almost every time they were on.

The world of entertainment is changing. People are moving away from scheduled-based TV and moving more toward on-demand entertainment. That last big hold-out for scheduled-based entertainment has been sporting events, with the NFL dominating that market for the last few decades. However, with the change in how people view and want entertainment combined with all of the missteps,. mistakes and decisions the NFL has been making in recent years along with a noticeable decrease in quality of the NFL as a whole, are starting to impact the NFL's long time untouchable popularity.

For example, ten years ago, if a network cancelled your favorite TV show, you might have been upset, but you looked for and eventually found a replacement for it. Now, because most people are wanting more control and freedom in their lives, people are moving away from scheduled TV shows and TV in general. So, when a network cancels a show you like, you get upset, but then you soon realize that's another 30-60 minutes of your life each week that's no longer tied up with something usually 13-24 weeks out of the year.

For me, the NFL is the same way. In the past, my Sundays, Monday nights and Thursday nights were usually tied up with watching NFL games, either directly or casually while doing something else. Now, I only have one game a week I watch and in many cases, I am doing something else while the game is on, which I never did in the past while watching Cowboys games. Watching Cowboys games used to be a mental break for me from the rest of my busy schedule. I watched Cowboys games, and even the commercials, from start to finish. Now, I find myself sometimes wondering things like, "How did they get the ball back so quickly?" or "How did they get up/down by 3?"

People's entertainment interests have been changing for a while. Unlike many forms of entertainment, the NFL seemed to be shielded (pun intended) from those changes, but cracks have been appearing the last few years, and it seems like this year, the cracks are about to be replaced by gaping holes as fans and viewers leave.

The decline of the NFL has already started and given how long the process has been in motion, I cannot see any way it recovers. At best, the NFL needs to start making better decisions and providing teams with a better way to field more competitive teams if they want to hold on to what they still have.

I doubt the NFL is in decline or the product they sell.

Being the same person you were 20 years ago - in all respect - wouldnt speak for your intellect. People develop and therefore their interests change.

4 years ago i didnt care about the long and frequent commercial breaks. These days it is annoying to me. But it is more me who changed, not so much the way the game is being marketed.

But then in the USA everything is bigger, faster, higher, quicker. This is often mistaken with being better which is not the case. The bigger better faster often lacks substance. One way the NFL is marketing its product is to make alot of noise. They try to make a big story out of everything. This is to create a feel of substance and valence. Once you realize that this is only - like Alexander O'Neil would say - a "Fake" the game itself suffers from it.

Still the NFL is growing. People love their bread and games. Some way too long. Some others search for substance.


Whatever.... Good writeup Reality.
 
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I am trying to get back into following the NBA now, specifically the Rockets. Have watched more games this season than the past 15 years.

It is helping with my lack of passion for football these days.

I just wish bball went back to a Center/big guy game again. Way too many isolations and throwing up 3’s :(
For me, it was MLB this year. I even bought a streaming subscription so I could watch games live or replays later, but ultimately, it was just not the same enjoyment I used to have watching NFL games. For whatever reason, I feel like the slide of losing interest in pro-sports has started for me.
 

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I've been saying it for years....the NFL is in trouble....despite it's ratings. The integrity of the game is @ an all time low. You just don't replace that overnight. It's a trust between the fans...and the product the league is producing. And that has been eroding for some time now. Once that trust is broke...you will never replace that. It will never be the same. It like a marriage. Once that trust is broken between fans and what they are seeing and hearing from the league...it can't be magically put back together. It just doesn't work like that.:rolleyes:
 

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I'm sorry I dont understand the thought process behind only watching Cowboys games but avoiding the rest of the games.

Sounds like everyone in this boat should just watch training camp practices and then wait for the next year when camp opens again.

How do you know who the good teams are and how the games will go etc.?
 

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I doubt the NFL is in decline or the product they sell.

Being the same person you were 20 years ago - in all respect - wouldnt speak for your intellect. People develop and therefore their interests change.

4 years ago i didnt care about the long and frequent commercial breaks. These days it is annoying to me. But it is more me who changed, not so much the way the game is being marketed.

But then in the USA everything is bigger, faster, higher, quicker. This is often mistaken with being better which is not the case. The bigger better faster often lacks substance. One way the NFL is marketing its product is to make alot of noise. They try to make a big story out of everything. This is to create a feel of substance and valence. Once you realize that this is only - like Alexander O'Neil would say - a "Fake" the game itself suffers from it.

Still the NFL is growing. People love their bread and games. Some way too long. Some others search for substance.


Whatever.... Good writeup Reality.

Wow! An Alexander O'Neill "Fake" reference.

NIcely done - great song.
 

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It has occurred to me that they know Cowboys fans will always tune in (see ratings) so why not let other teams contend for championships who historically don't have a large national draw. If the Cowboys win it all, the net effect in increased NFL viewership/interest is much less than if the Seattle Seahawks win.
 

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The biggest reason is that a growing segment of under 30 people don't watch television. They just camp out on their phones.

Close, but I wouldn't blame phones. There are just better ways of entertaining yourself these days, and people under 30 like myself are quicker to discover them. We all share netflix/hbogo/hulu accounts, we all know how to pirate things, I've personally streamed every Cowboy game I've watched the past few years for free. The idea of paying an outrageous price for cable TV when I can get just as much if not more content myself for dirt cheap is already forcing content providers to change their models.

The NFL, like Reality stated, has been insulated from these changing trends to a point. The falling T.V. ratings is proof that they too will have to change their model, and I expect countless missteps on their way to rediscovering how to put out a good product again. I doubt they figure it out before being replaced by something new.
 

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There are things they can't control (e.g demographics, technology) and there are things they can control which they consistently manage to botch. The NFL to this point has been an active participant in it's own decline.
 

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Pretty much dead on.

I will add that the new rules and way too frequent and subjective penalties have preconditioned me to never get excited after a big play. That was the fun of tge nfl, now it is waiting for flag and the comparing it to other plays in a game and that is just exhausting
Really good point. How many fans immediately look for that dreaded yellow box with the word "flag" pop up at the bottom of the screen after a great play?
I used to be an advocate of the replay booth but have come to realize it's turned the game into a sports drama event off the field. It takes away from the game and I'm fading from the NFL very quickly. Only watch the DC anymore and canceled the ticket. Even quit watching NFL channel and quit watching espn last year.
Get my info from here and a few websites and that's it.
 

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While I agree with your post the overwhelming reason for the NFL losing popularity is for political reasons.Dont let all the side issues fool you.
I'll shut up now.
I disagree.

The issue you refer too is for many, just the last straw.

I saw this coming years ago and called it on this forum. The league got to big for it's britches and forgot about what made it great.

I lived and breathed football since the early seventies. My remaining interest now is as much because of habit as anything. It's hard to break a forty five year habit.

The NFL is doing their damndest to help me with that, though.
 

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I am not watching nearly as much games as what I used to watch. slowly dwindling my way down to only watch the Cowboys games.
I am tired of the bias against us, the screwing of Zeke, the refs blowing calls, and gearing the same teams to win over and over.

Steelers, Patriots, Seahawks...the giants are so inept they can't help them like they used to. Packers, they can try to keep them it is until AR is ready to return. If they are in the playoff hunt, he will play then.
Same teams over and over, for some reason they keep it that way. But then again good coaching will do that for most those teams too. You have to be good enough to overcome the poor officiating in today' NFL.

They finally hired what, 32 full time official's, but it has became worse. They care more about marketing outside of the USA than to keep it here. Why London, why not Canada, or do they not want to compete with the CFL.

I want to make a comment, but I keep politics out of it. Actually it is not political, to a degree, but it has to do with USA commerce. Keep it here.
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Good post Reality.

The fundamental mistake the league has made was to try to reach out to non-football fans to grow their market with the assumption that their die hard fans would stick with them.

It never dawned on them that by reaching out to people who don't care about the game, they alienated hard core fans like those on this very forum.

Now the NFL is in a position where long time fans are turning away from the game while the people they were trying to attract still couldn't care less.
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Social justice should not be part of the event in any way shape or form. You have the rule on the books Rodger Re the anthem and required decorum. Literally enforce it the same way you literally enforced your power against Zeke.
 
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