Upcoming cap decisions

DHCBF66 · Nov 24, 2018

Love D_Law but the price required to keep him will be way too much. Franchise him again and look for a trade partner. The Raiders got 2 1st rounders for Mack, we can get 2 for D_Law.

CowboysFaninHouston · Nov 24, 2018

Bobhaze said:
At the end of this season, hopefully after a deep playoff run, the Cowboys are going to have to make some tough decisions regarding cap management. In today’s NFL, because of the cap limits, you can’t hang on to everyone you want to.

Here is a list of players the Cowboys will have to make decisions on:

OFFENSE- 2019 Free agents
-Cole Beasley- he will be 30 next year and most receivers over 30 begin to decline. Tough decision.
-Tavon Austin- he’s helped this team but missed a ton of games to injury. I can’t see paying him.
-Geoff Swaim- he’s been pretty good, but is he worth a big pay raise? No, IMO.
-Rod Smith- not worth keeping for a pay raise IMO.
-Cameron Fleming- good to have a decent backup at LT but I’m not sure we can afford more there. If his price is right, perhaps.

DEFENSE- 2019 FA’s
-DeMarcus Lawrence- he’s deserving of a long term deal. He’s still only 26!
-David Irving- I know he’s popular with some here but not with me. Time to cut bait. Between the suspensions, injuries and girlfriend drama, we usually don’t get more than 6 games anyway. Adios.
-Dante Jones- nothing special. We could draft someone cheaper and with more upside.
-Damien Wilson- I like Wilson. He’s been a steady, dependable player, but will probably command too much in FA.

SPECIAL TEAMS FAs
-LP Ladeoceur- sign him- he’s money.

OTHERS
There are a few players that will be in the last year of their rookie deal in 2019 the team will probably review.
Here are the guys on that list:

-Byron Jones- has one more year on rookie deal. The team may want to start negotiating. This guy has become a top 3 corner in this league. Worth some big money IMO.
-Dak Prescott- big decision looming. Resign or wait. I say it’s a no brainer to keep Dak on his rookie deal one more year. If he shows big improvement they can still give a big contract after 2019.
-Brett Maher- technically he’s signed through 2019, so this isn’t a contract decision. I would definitely still bring in some serious competition.

KEEPERS (I would keep these guys for sure)
1. DeMarcus Lawrence- sign him!
2. LP Ladoceur- why not? He’s a dependable deep snapper and cheap.

MAYBE (if the price is right)
1. Cole Beasley- I lean towards letting him go. Only keep if price is right. That’s doubtful but maybe Cole gives a hometown discount. We are going to have to sign Amari Cooper after next year. Probably can’t keep both.
2. Cam Fleming- again, only if the price is right.

Everyone else, I would say goodbye. I have a lot more confidence in our draft people like Will McClay. Fans tend to want to hang on to guys like Irving too long. Irving’s not worth even the $2-3 mil he gets compared to the headaches he brings.

Your thoughts? Can’t keep everyone!

We probably make a minimum offer to Swaim who has been injury prone but is decent when healthy.....Although we need to draft a TE. Give lawrence his money...he is money. wilson, smith will get qualifying offers......pay Byron Jones...we have to keep both Jones and Lawrence.....its a must. Make Irvin a qualifying offer. not consistently on the field. off field issues. and injured too often.

Beasley is tough call. probably just a two year offer. and then a similar $2-3M offer to Austin....maybe....

next year we will have a lot of cap space....we also have to think about extending Cooper. and Zeke.... I am on the fence about Dak.

Idgit · Nov 24, 2018

Lawrence, Cooper, Byron Jones, Elliott, and Dak. They’re going to pay their cornerstones and replace the filler guys. Lee is the one I hope they make an accommodation for. But I don’t think they will, even there.

Bluefin · Nov 24, 2018

Kaiser said:
David Irving is given a similar contract as a make-good one year deal unless he mentally collapses between now and the offseason.

jazzcat22 said:
I think Irving gets another one year deal.

Makes sense to me.

David Irving and his agent wanted to capitalize playing on a one year, restricted free agent tender this season and it has not worked out well at all as of this post.

Dallas would likely be willing to offer Irving more on a one year deal in 2019 than any other team would and he would have better odds of succeeding here in familiar surroundings hoping to get the big payday in 2020.

Kaiser said:
I think Rod Smith and Cameron Flemming come back at slight overpayments because they are critical backups at critical positions.

Dallas doesn't like paying RFA tenders to undrafted players and will instead probably look to extend Rod Smith for several seasons.

Cam Fleming will probably want a chance to start somewhere else in 2019. I don't mind overpaying a bit to have a swing tackle, but I don't think Fleming will return.

J12B said:
Ladecour- I'm fine either way. I don't think a long snapper will be that hard to find if he retires or walks in free agency.

Dallas has been good at finding long snappers and L.P. Ladouceur will have to be replaced sooner rather than later, but I will keep him until he retires.

HanD said:
I'm not sure if this is acurate but this site says 5 mil savings with less than 2 mil cap hit .I was basing off that info .not sure if it is wrong

https://overthecap.com/player/allen-hurns/3408/

It should be accurate.

Allen Hurns signed a one year contract with a team option for 2019 that only contained a $2.5M signing bonus. The only potential dead money for Hurns next year is the half of his signing bonus ($1.25M) that was pro-rated. The base salary and weekly roster bonuses for next season are not guaranteed and will come off the cap if his option is not picked up..

speedkilz88 · Nov 24, 2018

Bobhaze said:
The problem there with cutting Hurns is he will still garner a $3.7 million cap hit if he’s cut post June 1. So it doesn’t save much to cut him.

Huh? His dead money would be only $1.25 million after the season.

speedkilz88 · Nov 24, 2018

ShortRound131 said:
I don't think we keep Beasley

I don't know why they wouldn't try to keep Beasley. Edelman got $5.5 avg per season and Amendola got $6 million per season.

blueblood70 · Nov 24, 2018

Bobhaze said:
The problem there with cutting Hurns is he will still garner a $3.7 million cap hit if he’s cut post June 1. So it doesn’t save much to cut him.

J12B said:
Beasley-I hope Beasley is brought back for another 3 years. The team should be able to afford him by cutting Allen Hurns and Terrance William's. Frees up about 7 million in cap right there.
3 year 18.5 million/12 guarantee

Lawrence-Completely agree. Sign him to a 4 year deal.
5 year 84 million/68 guarantee

Fleming-I'm fine with letting him walk, but if he can be brought back for 2 years at around the same price, I'd say do it. We will have OL depth. Well worth the cap hit.
2 year 7 million/4 guarantee

Ladecour- I'm fine either way. I don't think a long snapper will be that hard to find if he retires or walks in free agency.

David Irving-One year prove it deal at the same salary he is getting paid this year. If he asks for anything more, let him walk.

Damien Wilson-Alright with letting him walk. Although, the front office may end up releasing Lee to free up 7 million in cap. The position would no longer have any depth. Will be interesting to see what happens with both of these players. Especially Lee.

Long snappers that are GREAT are very hard to find..you cant mess with those FG snaps not even a little as the holder and timing get all messed up..I say tey nd keep them all like was mentioned redo Lees contract and find extra money and do some hard negotiation, all of them deserve to stay..that way we need less in FA and draft outside our walls..

speedkilz88 · Nov 24, 2018

And on Cam Fleming, he came off of starting in the Super Bowl for the patriots and only got $2.5 million for one year from the Cowboys and the other patriot OL the Cowboys looked at Waddle only got $1.5 million on one year to stay with the patriots.

Not sure why he would be sought after now. And there will still be other guys out there like Waddle.

Bobhaze · Nov 24, 2018

speedkilz88 said:
I don't know why they wouldn't try to keep Beasley. Edelman got $5.5 avg per season and Amendola got $6 million per season.

You want to resign Amari Cooper?

jazzcat22 · Nov 24, 2018

speedkilz88 said:
I don't know why they wouldn't try to keep Beasley. Edelman got $5.5 avg per season and Amendola got $6 million per season.

Depends on how much Beasley wants or thinks he is worth.
From earlier in the year. Or off season he wanted more than they got.

cern · Nov 24, 2018

Do everything to sign tank and Beasley. Austin's another lance Dunbar. Always hurt. Swaim's always injured. Keep him only if cheap. Draft well, as usual.

speedkilz88 · Nov 24, 2018

Bobhaze said:
You want to resign Amari Cooper?

Under 6 million is cheap for a wr. It would likely be only for a couple years due to his age, just like those other two wrs mentioned. They have the cap room. He's already been counting over $4 million (cap hit) as is.

That's less than half of Amari Cooper's 5th year option of $14 million

DCreppinBoysfan · Nov 24, 2018

We cut Beasley and now we in a position of need again. Why trade Switzer if you allow this to happen. Lance Leonor doesn’t look like he’s anywhere ready to feel those shoes .

Bluefin · Nov 24, 2018

CF74 said:
We got room for those we want.

And more room is also very easy to make.

Zack Martin ($14M) currently has the second highest 2019 cap number on the team with the base salary ($10M) already fully guaranteed as part of his long term extension this year. A typical restructure could create $7.2M in cap space.

Amari Cooper ($13.924M) has the third highest '19 cap number and is in line for a long term extension that could actually lower his cap hit next season.

Tyrone Crawford ($10.1M) has the fifth highest '19 cap number and could be asked to take a cut in pay over the final two seasons of his deal in return for some roster security (take less and have the remaining base salaries guaranteed).

Moving on from Allen Hurns (#10, $6.25M) and Terrance Williams (#11, $4.75M) could free up $7.25M to spend elsewhere.

These five players could generate another $20M in cap space.

hairic · Nov 24, 2018

I'm pretty sure LP is done at the end of this season; it took him a while to decide to return for this season, which was also only a one year deal. The retirement signals are all there.

KingintheNorth · Nov 24, 2018

OFFENSE- 2019 Free agents
-Cole Beasley- I hope he's back but completely understand if he prices himself out of here.
-Tavon Austin- I think this may come to a Austin vs Beasley decision with whoever is willing to take a more reasonable contract stays.
-Geoff Swaim- They love him but I would upgrade from so fast no one would remember who he was.
-Rod Smith- Another situation where they really love the player. Jerry loves the story of brothers Rod and Jaylon on the team. He's an affordable back-up who can play RB, FB, TE, and plays all Special Teams.
-Cameron Fleming- I like having a dependable back-up and he's young. He may want to go somewhere to start. Don't forget they traded for Parker Ehinger who they are very high on.

DEFENSE- 2019 FA’s
-DeMarcus Lawrence- I don't see a situation where they don't resign him. He is going to be extremely expensive.
-David Irving- The way this is playing out we may get him back on a short, not overly expensive deal. He keeps missing games and I'm not sure teams are going to throw a ton of money his way.
-Dante Jones- Will depend on his asking price. Short-term deal maybe.
-Damien Wilson- Two-down Sam linebacker, no need to overpay him. Let him test the market and someone will pay more than we want to. Joe Thomas, Chris Covington, and possibly Sean Lee could easily replace his snaps.

SPECIAL TEAMS FAs
-LP Ladeoceur- Keep him. If you replace him, you better have someone pretty good.

QuincyCarterEra · Nov 24, 2018

Keep Lawrence, Rod, Tavon, and Irving.

Swaim and Wilson if money is right

beware_d-ware · Nov 24, 2018

Beasley - Dak trusts him. He makes our 25 yo QB better. No way we don't pay him IMO.
Austin - I think we either take him or leave him. I don't think he's going to have much of a market.
Swaim - we keep him because he is worth more to us then pretty much any other team in the league. The league will pay him like a blocking #2, but he's our #1.
Smith - don't see us keeping him, I think we roll with Jackson.
Fleming - as crazy as it sounds, he may get starting offers in FA. Left tackle around the league is a position in dire straits.

D-Law: gotta pay him. 2 years as one of the best DEs in the league, it's time to admit this guy is for real. It won't be cheap though.
Irving: I think he's toxic. Wouldn't surprise me if the Cowboys won't touch him, wouldn't surprise me if no one else in the league does either.
Datone Jones: Dude was a churn 'n' burn guy to start with. He's out of here.
Wilson - the coaches liked Covington enough to carry him on the 53. I think he takes Wilson's job next year.

Ladoucer - keep that continuity going.

pancakeman · Nov 24, 2018

Really, the answer to nearly all free-agent questions is: if the money's right.

Beasley's skill set seems like it'd be one that doesn't decline as dramatically with age as someone like, say, Dez's.

Re-sign Lee but make him earn his roster spot on special teams!

QuincyCarterEra · Nov 24, 2018

beware_d-ware said:
Beasley - Dak trusts him. He makes our 25 yo QB better. No way we don't pay him IMO.
Austin - I think we either take him or leave him. I don't think he's going to have much of a market.
Swaim - we keep him because he is worth more to us then pretty much any other team in the league. The league will pay him like a blocking #2, but he's our #1.
Smith - don't see us keeping him, I think we roll with Jackson.
Fleming - as crazy as it sounds, he may get starting offers in FA. Left tackle around the league is a position in dire straits.

D-Law: gotta pay him. 2 years as one of the best DEs in the league, it's time to admit this guy is for real. It won't be cheap though.
Irving: I think he's toxic. Wouldn't surprise me if the Cowboys won't touch him, wouldn't surprise me if no one else in the league does either.
Datone Jones: Dude was a churn 'n' burn guy to start with. He's out of here.
Wilson - the coaches liked Covington enough to carry him on the 53. I think he takes Wilson's job next year.

Ladoucer - keep that continuity going.

From what I remember last, Bo was snagged by Jacksonville off our practice squad

Upcoming cap decisions

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