NFL rule changes

Point-of-the-Star · Dec 15, 2018

ChuckA1 said:
The decision to call the helmet rule for the first time against Eze, when I've seen many other backs do the same thing was troubling.

Zeke, helmet call, Illegal procedure on Ladeur snap, 12 men in the huddle (but not really in the huddle) .... all things you see all the time. The snap IP call is something done every game by every center. Same for the RB lowering his head ... happens every game.

The 2 common factors here:

--- they tremendously influenced the game

--- they were AGAINST the Cowboys

Obscure judgement calls. The game can be at the very mercy of judgement calls.

Dalmations202 · Dec 15, 2018

All i know is this. The rules and games are controlled in general by business owners.
If I am a business owner of Widgets......or any other company..... and I think I can control any part of it that might either make me money or save me a significant amount of money. I control it.

Ability to keep games close, and generate interest with closer games when the stands look half empty..........yea, that means $$$$$.

Logic, not conspiracy..........

Bullflop · Dec 15, 2018

Little Jr said:
This year, the home team averages 6.5 accepted penalties a game where the away team averages 6.7 accepted penalties a game.

As hard as it is to believe, if that's the case, I'll admit that surprises me.
Nice work. Suffice it to say, things aren't always as they seem. :thumbup:

exciter · Dec 15, 2018

ChuckA1 said:
The decision to call the helmet rule for the first time against Eze, when I've seen many other backs do the same thing was troubling.

The db was in the process of takling him at or below the knees. I dont recall any other time where it wasnt around waist height and have seen Zeke make that contact numerous times without a call. This occasion it was blatant contact made by Zeke, it was unnecessary and he gave himself a stinger with it! Whether or not its been called before, it should have been and was the correct call this instance!

exciter · Dec 15, 2018

conner01 said:
They are looking now at changing punting rules
This could be interesting

They're considering getting rid of kickoffs altogether, placing the ball at 25. Haven't heard anything mentioned about punts!

Bohuntr97 · Dec 16, 2018

I still don't get why Zeke was fined. Every back back lowers their head to get a few yards. Let the refs make the call without Goodell intervening after the fact. They were penalized, let it be.

ConstantReboot · Dec 16, 2018

Pants said:
Impossible to tell if Vegas has anything to do with the refs but if any of this were true, then the NFL will at some point be owned by the WWE

- I think that some of the calls are suspect, sure; but I don't think that the refs are "in on it" with "it" being Vegas benefitting from the outcome of games....

....perhaps you can dig up some stats on games this season where Vegas "won" vs people winning? if so, then there were be a starting point from which to search

I think they're in on it. After Bryant's catch ruled a non-catch I think they are in on it.

They make all of these rules but no checks and balances for refs. No investigations on why various calls are made against the Cowboys and no penalties against the other team for the same exact or worst foul.

No checks and balances for the refs. Then there is some kind of fix.

Bob-Lillys-War · Dec 16, 2018

Sadly yes , the games are fixed .

Now , the important thing is knowing how the games will end up prior to the 'entertainment' event .

robertfchew · Dec 16, 2018

Zekeats said:
NBA lol......just at least watch the first 3 minutes. Crazy **** I ever heard around the 2:30 mark

I quit caring about basketball after that. It’s 100% fixed.

BrassCowboy · Dec 16, 2018

Little Jr said:
That's accepted penalties. The 11-13 the past 30 years are penalties thrown .

This takes you through the 2016 season. I did the last 2 in my own with some help. Lol your article mentions the 2009 and 2016 season but the penalties called, not accepted had stayed between 11-13. The whole basis of this post was to try to show the NFL is skinf things for Vegas and now that gambling is legal. Penalties accepted can't be controlled by the league or the refs. But penalties thrown can. And they have stayed between 11-13.

Ok. Sounds like we both agree then that there seems to be more BS calls that can make differences in a games outcome.

Bohuntr97 · Dec 16, 2018

ConstantReboot said:
I think they're in on it. After Bryant's catch ruled a non-catch I think they are in on it.

They make all of these rules but no checks and balances for refs. No investigations on why various calls are made against the Cowboys and no penalties against the other team for the same exact or worst foul.

No checks and balances for the refs. Then there is some kind of fix.

Maybe not a fix, but maybe an agenda. Big Big Ben was served a six game penalty. Although the NFL had somewhat had video proof. The refs have have no exclusives. They are dunged by former refs who are a third party.

Bohuntr97 · Dec 16, 2018

Bohuntr97 said:
Maybe not a fix, but maybe an agenda. Big Big Ben was served a six game penalty. Although the NFL had somewhat had video proof. The refs have have no exclusives. They are dunged by former refs who are a third party.

Edited: I only know this by an NCAA ref. I'm assuming the Ed Hochcuili has been enquried for an opinion.

Zekeats · Dec 16, 2018

For all of you with the same amount of penalties being called and this team gets called for just as many penalties, that is not what I am arguing. I am arguing the timing of the penalties and what kind of penalties and how they influence the outcomes of the games and most importantly the score. I honestly believe that the over/under is influenced even more than the winner/loser of a game. Just see this chart, 2nd half and 4th quarter far more penalties and yards than the first and 3rd quarter. Why is that? Gotta rev up that score a little? Or down it some?

http://www.nflpenalties.com/penalties-by-quarter.php?year=2018

Manster68 · Dec 16, 2018

Zekeats said:
I’m very curious as to what people think and believe. Please here me out. In the past 4-5 seasons it’s pretty obvious that the NFL has made and added a ton of rule changes and new rules. A lot of the rules are very vague and calls could go either way much like the catch rule, pass interference, holding and so on.
We have seen blatant calls called the wrong way and some others over looked. We have seen pre play penalties that can alter games. We’ve seen post play penalties that have altered games.
We’ve seen them change a lot of rules for the kickoff and they claim that they are for players safety and while they might be it also is a way to control the outcome of games. See the kickoff and return games used to be one of the most game changing plays ever. A big return could completely swing a game the other way.
So they have made a huge deal out of concussions and players safety over the years but is it more about $? Not just money from lawsuits, trust me all major companies can take on lawsuits and the NFL is obviously one of the biggest companies in the world.
So here’s where I’m trying to take you all, any chance the NFL had a little preknowledge on the leagalizition of pro sports gambling? Now I’m not saying that it hasn’t mattered in the past but maybe knowing that a lot more people would have access to gambling that didn’t prior that most of the rules and changes are due to gambling.
With vague rules and game changes and the elimination of one of the most unpredictable plays I don’t think it’s just a coincidence. They want to control the outcome of the game. They want to manage the games.
Now I love football and I love my Dallas Cowboys and I will always love and watch no matter what and we are pretty much all die hard fans that no matter what we will watch but that doesn’t mean that these games are being controlled by gambling. Follow the money people and understand and be aware that money is what this is all about. Yes it’s the entertainment business and I am entertained but I like to make reasons to things that don’t make sense such as the Dez drop, or the fumble on the opening kickoff last week, or the too many men in the huddle or the pass interference flag that was picked up on Anthony Hitchens. Blatant calls that’s wether for better or worse they went the way they shouldn’t have been called.
To me it’s all about one thing we never talk about, the elephant in the room gambling/money.

Please mods don’t remove I would like to here other people’s thoughts on this.

The way Dallas has been screwed over the years and officiating now based in New York is all I need to know. Your post is pretty spot on.

CouchCoach · Dec 16, 2018

The NFL affects the games through the rules and in some instances those rules are there for public perception, like the helmet rule. At first they called it and then they didn't and got called out because they were looking the other way. Make no mistake, if the refs enforce that rule by the letter, the game as a TV product is over. It will not survive the number of stop downs because I count at least 10 infractions, not called, in every game I watch.

As far as some connection between Vegas and the games? No way. This is a 15B a year enterprise, with a combined value of the teams exceeding 100B and owned by some people who protect their image. They are not going to risk the league to appease Vegas. They've fought this gambling issue since the days of Rozelle, knowing that some day they would lose the battle.

There are questionable calls every week in every game, it is part of the game, the human element part of the game.

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