Should Dallas not extend Zeke?

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Might not be a popular thing to talk about. But might be the smart thing to do. The Cowboys made that absolute right decision not to resign DeMarco Murray fresh off an 1800 yard season. He was the 4th best player in the league at the time, according to the top 100 players. He was also a 3rd round 71st player taken in the draft. Solid RB's can be found in the later rounds.

He also lasted only 3 years after the Cowboys wisely let him walk. They could have been on the hook with him like they were with Marion Barber. Paying for a player that wasn't even in the league anymore.

Murray 934 att 4526 yds 28 TDs 1200 receiving 1 TD (remember that TD? Skins?)
Elliott 868 att 4048 yds 28 TDs 1199 receiving 6 TDs

Similar Stats. Although Murray's are over 4 years, he wasn't used as much his rookie year and only had about 500 yards. They are doing the same thing with Zeke. Running him into the ground. He will blow by Murray's carry totals easily this coming year. They've been lucky he's been so durable. There is nobody behind him. The smart move may be franchising him for a year possibly, and then say adios.
 
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dfense said:
Might not be a popular thing to talk about. But might be the smart thing to do. The Cowboys made that absolute right decision not to resign DeMarco Murray fresh off an 1800 yard season. He was the 4th best player in the league at the time, according to the top 100 players. He was also a 3rd round 71st player taken in the draft. Solid RB's can be found in the later rounds.

He also lasted only 3 years after the Cowboys wisely let him walk. They could have been on the hook with him like they were with Marion Barber. Paying for a player that wasn't even in the league anymore.

Murray 934 att 4526 yds 28 TDs 1200 receiving 1 TD (remember that TD? Skins?)
Elliott 868 att 4048 yds 28 TDs 1199 receiving 6 TDs

Similar Stats. Although Murray's are over 4 years, he wasn't used as much his rookie year and only had about 500 yards. They are doing the same thing with Zeke. Running him into the ground. He will blow by Murray's carry totals easily this coming year. They've been lucky he's been so durable. There is nobody behind him. The smart move may be franchising him for a year possibly, and then say adios.
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It's a tough call, and a rough deal for the player, but football is often a cutthroat business. And the current day running back is not a glamour position anymore. It's a chew you up and spit you out grind.

Certainly something to think about.
 
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That would be idiotic. More fear from the "men" these days.

Zeke is 23 years old. He's one of the greats the position has seen over the last 20 years. He's nothing like DeMarco Murray, who I campaigned for not bringing back.

Not only should they extend Elliott, they should do it this offseason. Give him a new deal that takes him to 30 years of age. It would be one of the safest contracts in the league as only an unforeseen injury would give you buyers remorse.
 

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He's had more carries than any TB in football the last three years and it's not even close. Especially when you consider he missed 6 games due to suspension. By the time his rookie contract is up, he'll have logged way more carries and usage than any TB in the NFL, likely easily.

The trends don't lie. RBs, other than maybe Adrian Peterson, tend to see production fall off as the usage mounts and they get into their late 20s, 30s.

It's a tough call. If the Cowboys are going to pound him for nearly 325 carries again next year, I am not sure I want him on the hook for 8 digit cap hits as he enters the 2nd half of his 20s.
 
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Risen Star said:
That would be idiotic. More fear from the "men" these days.

Zeke is 23 years old. He's one of the greats the position has seen over the last 20 years. He's nothing like DeMarco Murray, who I campaigned for not bringing back.

Not only should they extend Elliott, they should do it this offseason. Give him a new deal that takes him to 30 years of age. It would be one of the safest contracts in the league as only an unforeseen injury would give you buyers remorse.
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A position where players wear down quicker than others, a position that is devalued in the league, a position where these "elite" players don't retire with super bowl rings.

There's very little reason to be extending Zeke. Franchise tag him, maybe a couple times, and move on. He's an RB, not a QB, not a pass rusher, not a top 3 offensive lineman.
 
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Pay Zeke now.

Don't give him a 3rd contract but make sure he's locked up for his prime years and lets get out of the deal when he is 28 or 29.
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You don't need to give him a second contract to get through his prime years. We could get him to when he's around 26 years old without giving him a second contract, and I can tell you now, he won't be the same player by then.
 
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dfense said:
Might not be a popular thing to talk about. But might be the smart thing to do. The Cowboys made that absolute right decision not to resign DeMarco Murray fresh off an 1800 yard season. He was the 4th best player in the league at the time, according to the top 100 players. He was also a 3rd round 71st player taken in the draft. Solid RB's can be found in the later rounds.

He also lasted only 3 years after the Cowboys wisely let him walk. They could have been on the hook with him like they were with Marion Barber. Paying for a player that wasn't even in the league anymore.

Murray 934 att 4526 yds 28 TDs 1200 receiving 1 TD (remember that TD? Skins?)
Elliott 868 att 4048 yds 28 TDs 1199 receiving 6 TDs

Similar Stats. Although Murray's are over 4 years, he wasn't used as much his rookie year and only had about 500 yards. They are doing the same thing with Zeke. Running him into the ground. He will blow by Murray's carry totals easily this coming year. They've been lucky he's been so durable. There is nobody behind him. The smart move may be franchising him for a year possibly, and then say adios.
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I agree that RBs can, and are, found later sometimes.
I also agree that you really have to be careful with how much you pay backs later in their careers.
But, Demarco Murray was never close to be the 4th best player in the entire league. Those NFL.com top 100 lists are a total joke
And Zeke is a whole different animal than Murray. Dude is built to last.
But he is going to need to start thinking more about his body--less partying and more proper diet. That's how the guys that last usually pull it off now days.
 
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DFWJC said:
I agree that RBs can, and are, found later sometimes.
But, Demarco Murray was never close to be the 4th best player in the entire league. Those NFL.com top 100 lists are a total joke
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Murray's biggest issue was injuries, he certainly had the ability as a runner and receiver to be one of the best. He was one of the best in 2014, people criticized him saying it was all the offensive line - while I agree that certainly helped, he led the league that year in yards after contact.
 
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We should resign Zeke but not this off-season and most likely not next off-season either. If he wants to told out i would trade him and i know that won't be popular but that's exactly what should be done. While he won't bring 5 first round picks that trade could have a Walker type impact for the future.
 
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mattjames2010 said:
Murray's biggest issue was injuries, he certainly had the ability as a runner and receiver to be one of the best. He was one of the best in 2014, people criticized him saying it was all the offensive line - while I agree that certainly helped, he led the league that year in yards after contact.
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Murray had a great year in 2014. Everything came together.
His health, the massive gaping holes that allowed him to hit first contact a full speed, and the leagues top rated passer--which prevented defenses from ever doing to Murray what they do to Zeke almost very game.
 
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For anyone in the not extend camp...
Look at the difference between a guy like McFadden finishing in the top 4 in rushing yards for the year for us and zeke finishing leading the league 2/3 times and should’ve been 3/3 without Goodells legal hard on.


The difference is clear.
 
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DFWJC said:
Murray had a great year in 2014. Everything came together.
His health, the massive gaping holes that allowed him to hit first contact a full speed, and the leagues top rated passer--which prevented defenses from ever doing to Murray what they do to Zeke almost very game.
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Makes me truly wonder what could’ve been with romo and 21. All they ever had was that one handoff
 
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