Tapper was waived by the Jets on Friday

DominantD · May 11, 2019

Tapper was a good draft for the 4th round. He was simply a draft pick that didn't work out.

speedkilz88 · May 11, 2019

John813 said:
I still am not getting your point .

Matt Johnson was a sparq-y safety they liked that just couldn't stay healthy. Never wasted a roster spot when it came to the 53 man roster . They had to of liked something that he could of brought to the team but his body wasn't built for the strain football brought. They gave him a few years to shake the injury bug but then realized he couldn't stay healthy and moved on .

Rico was drafted as a long term project. Of course they would give him some years before moving on. Year 1 he was on the PS. Year two he had a jaw/head injury and they ir him . Year 3 was his best shot to make some noise but couldn't .I doubt he's on the roster in 2019. He's cost the team peanuts and only has been on the 53 man roster for 1 year . We had an aarp te in Witten when he was drafted.

When Tapper was drafted we had questions at both ends spots. He was an athletic defensive end that was out of spot in college in a 3-4 scheme.
What's wrong with a team holding onto a de when at the time they were 0-2 for legit starting des?

I mean if anything your complaint should be about Gregory who can't stop smoking weed yet they keep him in some capacity.
Not some dude who had his career get derailed by a bizarre back injury and breaking his foot in practice.

I think his point is obvious. He's ignorant.

Corso · May 11, 2019

speedkilz88 said:
I think his point is obvious. He's ignorant.

Ha ha ha! Dang...

ItzKelz · May 11, 2019

Was never quite sold on Tapper. The scheme was always the blame for his lack of productivity in college which may or may not have been true. Always was hopeful that he would turn into something but honestly not surprised that he didnt.

Iago33 · May 11, 2019

ItzKelz said:
Was never quite sold on Tapper. The scheme was always the blame for his lack of productivity in college which may or may not have been true. Always was hopeful that he would turn into something but honestly not surprised that he didnt.

I’d rather draft unproductive potential guys in the fourth than in the second round.

ItzKelz · May 11, 2019

Iago33 said:
I’d rather draft unproductive potential guys in the fourth than in the second round.

Tapper was not drafted in the 2nd. Sure he was a miss in the 4th which just goes to show that even Will McClay can miss sometimes and has room to get better. Heck McClay recently admitted that Dak is proof that they have to work on getting better as there were several QBs that they had rated higher than Dak that did not pan out at all.

Risen Star · May 11, 2019

DominantD said:
Tapper was a good draft for the 4th round. He was simply a draft pick that didn't work out.

Try to wrap your head around that one.

One of those good decisions that failed. Cowboys!

Risen Star · May 11, 2019

Iago33 said:
I’d rather draft unproductive potential guys in the fourth than in the second round.

Doh!

They don't really have opinions. The team thinks for them.

CowboyRoy · May 11, 2019

PhillyCowboysFan said:
His senior year he had 50 tackles with 10 for a loss and 7 sacks. He showed some promise!

7 sacks his senior year in college? I call that average in college. If you cant dominate in college, you have no shot in the pros.

buybuydandavis · May 11, 2019

John813 said:
2 years is too long?

Especially when he's on ir from the start of 2016 due to an undiagnosed back issue. And then lands back on the ir in 17 after breaking his foot in practice in week 4 .

Not to mention he cost the team peanuts in cap and then not even a roster spot once on ir .

Guess you don't believe in the 3 years to determine if a player belongs or not

There's little reason but spite to dump low salary players who aren't taking a roster spot, whether on IR or the PS. Don't throw away those lotto tickets.

But my recollection is that Tapper's condition was not unknown at the time of the draft by the NFL. He was a guy with fantastic measurables and ok production in more of a two gap defense which wasn't designed to have him get upfield. I liked the pick until I heard that the back issue was known at the time of the draft. Back issues end DE careers. Don't use a decent pick on a guy with a congenital bad back.

To be fair, he had remained healthy through college.

38 Special · May 11, 2019

CowboyRoy said:
7 sacks his senior year in college? I call that average in college. If you cant dominate in college, you have no shot in the pros.

Speaking in absolutes like that is a little insane. Daniele Hunter got 14.5 sacks for the Vikings last year and had 4.5 for his entire college career. Chris Jones got 15.5 for the Chiefs last year after 2.5 in college.

Making decisions with limited and imperfect information is what scouting is about. Missing on a pick is a result of making the wrong decision, but you don’t know the future and it’s only a bad decision if critical information was overlooked. Rapper ran fast, was durable in college, and flashed a quick step in the pros. I can see some of the reasons that decision was made, and won’t hold a 4th round bust against the staff given the recent results they’ve had.

PhillyCowboysFan · May 11, 2019

CowboyRoy said:
7 sacks his senior year in college? I call that average in college. If you cant dominate in college, you have no shot in the pros.

So then we shouldn’t have drafted LVE! How about Joey Bosa’s final college year with 51 tackles and 5 sacks. But I’m sorry you know much more then the people that actually do that for a living, that has more resources to help evaluate to make their decisions and is actually one of the best.

It’s like the fry guy at McD’s giving financial advise.

PhillyCowboysFan · May 11, 2019

38 Special said:
Speaking in absolutes like that is a little insane. Daniele Hunter got 14.5 sacks for the Vikings last year and had 4.5 for his entire college career. Chris Jones got 15.5 for the Chiefs last year after 2.5 in college.

Making decisions with limited and imperfect information is what scouting is about. Missing on a pick is a result of making the wrong decision, but you don’t know the future and it’s only a bad decision if critical information was overlooked. Rapper ran fast, was durable in college, and flashed a quick step in the pros. I can see some of the reasons that decision was made, and won’t hold a 4th round bust against the staff given the recent results they’ve had.

You will never win against internet scouts! LOL

John813 · May 11, 2019

buybuydandavis said:
There's little reason but spite to dump low salary players who aren't taking a roster spot, whether on IR or the PS. Don't throw away those lotto tickets.

But my recollection is that Tapper's condition was not unknown at the time of the draft by the NFL. He was a guy with fantastic measurables and ok production in more of a two gap defense which wasn't designed to have him get upfield. I liked the pick until I heard that the back issue was known at the time of the draft. Back issues end DE careers. Don't use a decent pick on a guy with a congenital bad back.

To be fair, he had remained healthy through college.

IIRC he found out about in camp.

It apparently is something that has existed since he was a child, and it was never properly diagnosed. He awoke one morning in camp and was unable to move his leg. The injury was then identified, and indications are that he is healing fine (although there is no indication of what was done to treat it). He is expected to miss the first game of the season, but hopes to be back shortly.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...l-charles-tapper-fractured-vertebra-tony-romo

Floatyworm · May 11, 2019

PhillyCowboysFan said:
His senior year he had 50 tackles with 10 for a loss and 7 sacks. He showed some promise!

Call me crazy...but I think he still has a chance. Didn't think he was ever a DE to begin with. Thought his best spot was a pass rushing specialist from the 3tech. And look @ the Jets...they are loaded @ DT....plus the Jets management ...they aren't the smartest either. I think someone might still give him another shot. I can see a team like the Saints or Patriots kick the tires..and get some mileage out of him.

Jstopper · May 11, 2019

CowboyRoy said:
7 sacks his senior year in college? I call that average in college. If you cant dominate in college, you have no shot in the pros.

Do you know how stupid of a hot take this is? Many of the top pass rushers in the league right now didn’t have more than 7 sacks in their last college year.

Iago33 · May 11, 2019

ItzKelz said:
Tapper was not drafted in the 2nd. Sure he was a miss in the 4th which just goes to show that even Will McClay can miss sometimes and has room to get better. Heck McClay recently admitted that Dak is proof that they have to work on getting better as there were several QBs that they had rated higher than Dak that did not pan out at all.

I was comparing him to our 2nd round pick this year. I’d rather not pick unproductive college players in any round, but if you’re going to take a flier, I guess a 4th round flier isn’t as bad as the 2nd round one we took this year!

ItzKelz · May 11, 2019

Iago33 said:
I was comparing him to our 2nd round pick this year. I’d rather not pick unproductive college players in any round, but if you’re going to take a flier, I guess a 4th round flier isn’t as bad as the 2nd round one we took this year!

I think our 2nd round pick this year was a 1st round talent in the wrong scheme in college. Its part of the evaluation process.

Iago33 · May 11, 2019

ItzKelz said:
I think our 2nd round pick this year was a 1st round talent in the wrong scheme in college. Its part of the evaluation process.

Tapper was in the wrong scheme in college, too, right?

ItzKelz · May 11, 2019

Iago33 said:
Tapper was in the wrong scheme in college, too, right?

That is what was said of Tapper. So the question is now.....what is the right scheme?

Tapper was waived by the Jets on Friday

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