Dak & Wentz are not on same level

Roadtrip635 · May 17, 2019

Sydla said:
If Wentz didn't get hurt in 2017, he's probably the league MVP, definitely finishing in the Top 3. Go back and read stories of his play before he got hurt and he was easily one of the favorites for MVP that year before he busted his knee on a weird QB sneak.

Granted, getting hurt is a big deal so you can't ignore that. I heard a beat writer here in Philly say that he'd be really careful about paying Wentz big money right now.......... the injury risk is just too great at this point.

It wasn't a QB sneak, everyone was covered and he took off running, nothing weird about it.

blueblood70 · May 17, 2019

BigCatMonaco said:
Wentz : 70 pass TD
Goff : 65 Pass TD
Prescott : 67 Pass TD

Pass TD Over 20 Yards

Wentz : 19
Goff : 15
Prescott : 27

thats got to sting haters..they will argue wentz did it with less games but hey playing all games is better then missing..

Runwildboys · May 17, 2019

INCowboysFan said:
Eagles will be paying $30M to guy spending most of his time in the trainers room.

Hey, someone's gotta keep those tables warm!

SoupcanSam · May 17, 2019

Sydla said:
If Wentz didn't get hurt in 2017, he's probably the league MVP, definitely finishing in the Top 3. Go back and read stories of his play before he got hurt and he was easily one of the favorites for MVP that year before he busted his knee on a weird QB sneak.

Granted, getting hurt is a big deal so you can't ignore that. I heard a beat writer here in Philly say that he'd be really careful about paying Wentz big money right now.......... the injury risk is just too great at this point.

It's still opinion what wentz would have done had he stayed healthy. I dont trust any player to stay on a high until it's all said and done, I dont care how well they are playing. I dont even trust the great Tom Brady himself until proven otherwise the season of claim.

SoupcanSam · May 17, 2019

Runwildboys said:
Hey, someone's gotta keep those tables warm!

My whole thing as far as injury goes is, Dallas payed Lawrence and look at his situation.

Like I said I'm not a fan of either QB but as far as this goes............

Sydla · May 17, 2019

SoupcanSam said:
It's still opinion what wentz would have done had he stayed healthy. I dont trust any player to stay on a high until it's all said and done, I dont care how well they are playing. I dont even trust the great Tom Brady himself until proven otherwise the season of claim.

Sure, it was an opinion but it was a universal opinion, including amongst NFL writers who vote for the AP MVP, for example.

There's a bit of Cowboys homerism and anti-Eagles bias when people can't admit Wentz was playing at an elite level in 2017 before getting hurt.

Diehardblues · May 17, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
Yes it does when it comes to wins.

I’m assuming that’s only regular season wins or did I miss some championship and Super Bowl appearances by Dak? Ha

My point is such a comparison is suggesting that only Brady has been more successful than Dak in last 3 years by using the teams wins. Basically attempting to place Dak on same level as Brady.

Rayman70 · May 17, 2019

Chuck 54 said:
Wentz IS a franchise QB who struggled with lousy receivers, then excelled with very good ones and the best TEs in the league. There’s nothing wrong with that. Injuries? Sure, but his full potential has not been reached.

Dak is not the same type QB as Wentz, not the same arm, certainly hasn’t had the same defense or receivers/TEs....while Wentz hasn’t had the same run game as Dak, Dak hasn’t played in the same type offense.

Dak is also a franchise QB. Everyone sees it except a few sour Cowboys fans. He’s not the same type QB as Wentz. Staubach wasn’t the same as Bradshaw; Aikman wasn’t the same as Favre; Romo wasn’t the same as Brady or Rodgers.

Anyone who argues that Dak or Wentz aren’t franchise QBs usually has an agenda he refuses to let go of.
One can have more talent than the other. One can be more clutch than the other. One may be a better leader. One may put up better stats. I can accept both sides of any argument on which QB is best.

But both are franchise QBs, and neither has reached his ceiling or his prime.

no Wentz isn't what I would call a certifiable Franchise QB. That term gets loosely used these days. Is he good? YES...but I wouldn't go any further than that until he shows he can lead a team to and win the SB. Same with Dak actually. They both get an Incomplete grade.

Rayman70 · May 17, 2019

Steve Beurlein is better than Kirk Cousins who got a 100 mil deal...what do you think he would get in todays NFL? lol....do the math...its ridiculous.

Diehardblues · May 17, 2019

Sydla said:
Sure, it was an opinion but it was a universal opinion, including amongst NFL writers who vote for the AP MVP, for example.

There's a bit of Cowboys homerism and anti-Eagles bias when people can't admit Wentz was playing at an elite level in 2017 before getting hurt.

Yep

He was playing at a MVP level. Anyone doubting that Wentz isn’t a greater talent and more prolific passer than Prescott must have underlying agendas. That doesn’t mean that Dak couldn’t have more success at QB and or a greater career.

Rayman70 · May 17, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Yep

He was playing at a MVP level. Anyone doubting that Wentz isn’t a greater talent and more prolific passer than Prescott must have underlying agendas. That doesn’t mean that Dak couldn’t have more success at QB and or a greater career.

for 1 year,YES...Carson outplayed Dak. One year doesn't a career make. Its about longevity and consistency...and in the end, leading men and winning the SB at the helm. He hasn't done that,nor has Dak. In my view, they are both neck and neck.

Rayman70 · May 17, 2019

I have yet to see Wentz stay healthy. Dak has been durable and tough. Availability is a very good trait.

PJTHEDOORS · May 17, 2019

Diehardblues said:
Yep

He was playing at a MVP level. Anyone doubting that Wentz isn’t a greater talent and more prolific passer than Prescott must have underlying agendas. That doesn’t mean that Dak couldn’t have more success at QB and or a greater career.

Your idea of talent & mine are obviously way different.

Rayman70 · May 17, 2019

PJTHEDOORS said:
Your idea of talent & mine are obviously way different.

mine too. Guess its in the eye of the beholder. Give me that QB that can stay on the field and lead men. I will take Dak.

Rayman70 · May 17, 2019

Dak came into the league used to the big games,large stage and use to putting a team on his back and trying to carry it. Going back to Miss state, I recall many a game where they had no business winning nor getting close...but time and time again Dak would ball in crucial times. One game was against Arkansas...in which I think they lost, but he WAS the team that night. Wentz came from tiny NDST. Sometimes, it does matter what program you played in and came from. Carson never had to deal with 300 pounders coming at him as well as elite players the way Dak did each week in the SEC. I think it gave Dak an advantage in the NFL.

SoupcanSam · May 17, 2019

Sydla said:
Sure, it was an opinion but it was a universal opinion, including amongst NFL writers who vote for the AP MVP, for example.

There's a bit of Cowboys homerism and anti-Eagles bias when people can't admit Wentz was playing at an elite level in 2017 before getting hurt.

I admit he was and i have said it before. But it lead to nowhere and injuries happen, BOOHOO, Youd just have to prove it over again.

I'm not taking what I saw before injury and running with that like most. Wide spread of opinion at times lead to a wide spread of disappointment.

PJTHEDOORS · May 17, 2019

Rayman70 said:
mine too. Guess its in the eye of the beholder. Give me that QB that can stay on the field and lead men. I will take Dak.

Or a qb that plays his best in the 4th quartet which Dak does.

Diehardblues · May 17, 2019

PJTHEDOORS said:
Your idea of talent & mine are obviously way different.

There’s a reason why Wentz was taken early in the 1st round and Prescott in 4th round. Talent level..

Sydla · May 17, 2019

SoupcanSam said:
I admit he was and i have said it before. But it lead to nowhere and injuries happen, BOOHOO, Youd just have to prove it over again.

I'm not taking what I saw before injury and running with that like most. Wide spread of opinion at times lead to a wide spread of disappointment.

You literally asked what has Wentz done to get the praise but then admit he was probably having a MVP caliber season in 2017.

You see the disconnect there right?

Diehardblues · May 17, 2019

Rayman70 said:
for 1 year,YES...Carson outplayed Dak. One year doesn't a career make. Its about longevity and consistency...and in the end, leading men and winning the SB at the helm. He hasn't done that,nor has Dak. In my view, they are both neck and neck.

You obviously didn’t read my last sentence. Dak could become a better QB. But that doesn’t mean he’s more talented and or a greater prolific passer.

Dak & Wentz are not on same level

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