CBS: Fatal flaws for all 32 teams

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Future said:
"implied in your post" is a good way to say "I'm misquoting you."

The Cowboys were winning 7-6 when they got their second possession. It doesn't matter that the Rams were running the ball, because they didn't score.
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In your first post, you were even talking about the run defense and you clearly stated that the defense couldn't stop the run because the Cowboys offense couldn't control the ball. But in fact, the run defense couldn't stop the run from the start of the game. So linking the run defense's problems with the offense was an overstatement on your part. The Cowboys run D had issues right from the first snap of the game.

So I didn't misquote you. Oh and I agree with something else you said - its not much of a concern at this point as long as the coaching staff understands what the Rams coaches were able to do to us.
 
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Sydla said:
In your first post, you were even talking about the run defense and you clearly stated that the defense couldn't stop the run because the Cowboys offense couldn't control the ball. But in fact, the run defense couldn't stop the run from the start of the game. So linking the run defense's problems with the offense was an overstatement on your part. The Cowboys run D had issues right from the first snap of the game.

So I didn't misquote you. Oh and I agree with something else you said - its not much of a concern at this point as long as the coaching staff understands what the Rams coaches were able to do to us.
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Nope. Here's the first post and when I already clarified it.

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Yes, no other team last season thought to try to run the ball against the Cowboys....The Rams could run at will because the Cowboys offense couldn't do anything. They played bad but it's not as if it's some grand concern. It's one bad game, happens to every defense.

Also, Jordan Howard sucks.
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Future said:
I'm not arguing that. The Cowboys struggled with run defense, I never said anything otherwise.

My point is that the run game was made much more effective because the Cowboys offense was pathetic.

But in general, I think the idea that the Cowboys run defense is going to be exploited all year based on one bad game is ridiculous.
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You're grossly skewing what I said for the sake of argument. I said the run defense was bad from the jump and that the offense not being able to stay on the field is what made the run defense so problematic.
 
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You’re playing a LG at RT and he hasn’t looked great, and you’re playing a RT at LG and he’s been worse than the other guy. It seems so easy to fix, especially with how good Collins was at LG a few years ago.
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It blows my mind how knowledgeable you are about a team that you hate. Respect. Although sometimes I think you're only here to hate. I have to ask, do you frequent other rival boards or do you just have a special connection to dem boys?
 

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Future said:
Nope. Here's the first post and when I already clarified it.



You're grossly skewing what I said for the sake of argument. I said the run defense was bad from the jump and that the offense not being able to stay on the field is what made the run defense so problematic.
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But the run defense was "problematic" right from the start meaning it's really kind of hard to sit here and blame the offense for something that was happening before the offense even touched the football. The run defense was problematic because of their own issues. The offense scuffling for a large chunk in the middle of the game just exacerbated an already existing issue.
 
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Sydla said:
But the run defense was "problematic" right from the start meaning it's really kind of hard to sit here and blame the offense for something that was happening before the offense even touched the football. The run defense was problematic because of their own issues. The offense scuffling for a large chunk in the middle of the game just exacerbated an already existing issue.
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I don't disagree with any of that, and haven't. The bolded is the biggest problem.
 

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Future said:
I don't disagree with any of that, and haven't. The bolded is the biggest problem.
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We will just disagree on that. If the defense can't stop the run in a game, blaming the offense for their problems seems counterintuitive.

The fact is the defense couldn't stop the run because they just sucked and got outschemed by the Rams offensive coaches. It seems defensive to sit here and try to white wash their problems by blaming the offense for making their suckiness more pronounced.

I mean if we are going to do this blame game, maybe the defense could have actually stopped the run from the start and gotten off the field quicker and given the offense more possessions in the game?
 
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Seems like he just enjoys arguing regardless of the topic.
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I enjoy good debate as well, but he seems to want to make things personal, and I don't. And again, coming back to argue this three days later? That wasn't me that did that.

But I don't need to run and hide and ignore anybody over a difference of opinion. If someone else does? That's on them.
 
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Sydla said:
We will just disagree on that. If the defense can't stop the run in a game, blaming the offense for their problems seems counterintuitive.

The fact is the defense couldn't stop the run because they just sucked and got outschemed by the Rams offensive coaches. It seems defensive to sit here and try to white wash their problems by blaming the offense for making their suckiness more pronounced.

I mean if we are going to do this blame game, maybe the defense could have actually stopped the run from the start and gotten off the field quicker and given the offense more possessions in the game?
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Again, I am not blaming the offense for the defense's problems. Yes, the run defense was bad.

But when the defense was struggling, the offense was worse, giving the team no chance to win. Those two long drives to start the game resulted in 6 points. Would it be different if they were dinking and dunking in the passing game?

I'd argue that 3rd down defense was a bigger problem than run defense, specifically, but I don't disagree that yes, the defense gets some blame for not getting off the field.
 
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Garrett will be out coached.. there's no doubt about it. But the FO will blame a new scapegoat? Then maybe the cleats? lol while others blame a lack of talent and execution? Anything and everything except Garrett. The problem that isn't going away. Countless coaches, countless players.. on and on it goes.
 
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It blows my mind how knowledgeable you are about a team that you hate. Respect. Although sometimes I think you're only here to hate. I have to ask, do you frequent other rival boards or do you just have a special connection to dem boys?
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I only go where I’m desired
 
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Future said:
Uh, yes it does. You can't just keep handing the ball off if the other team's offense is getting first downs and scoring. After the TD, Dallas' next 4 drives ended in punts, and lasted a total of 7:00.
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You don't cherry-pick an offense's worst drives to judge an offensive performance. Looking at all 8 Dallas drives, the Cowboys scored 22 points -- with virtually no help from the running game, and no takeaways from the defense to set up a short field.

Only KC, NO, and LAR averaged better than 22 points on 8 drives in the regular season.
 
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You don't cherry-pick an offense's worst drives to judge an offensive performance. Looking at all 8 Dallas drives, the Cowboys scored 22 points -- with virtually no help from the running game, and no takeaways from the defense to set up a short field.

Only KC, NO, and LAR averaged better than 22 points on 8 drives in the regular season.
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In a singular game you sure do, especially when they all come one after the other.

Points per drive only matters over the course of a seaosn, not in an individual game. There's too much context to get that generic with it.
 
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