Sing For Absolutism

Aerolithe_Lion said:

That’s enough for you?

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I don’t like the number 6 so we will have to go back to back for 7... Lol.

Jeff Heath forces two fumbles and picks off three passes taking two of them in for TDs.

The defense allows 78 total yards and 0 points.

Zeke runs for 220 yards on 35 carries and scores 3 TDs.

Dak goes 7 of 28 for 39 yards no TDs.

Dak named MVP.

Aerolithe_Lion said:

What are you confused about?

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Maybe you could just restate the original question and clarify the questions summarized in @JD_KaPow 's post:

xwalker said:

Maybe you could just restate the original question and clarify the questions summarized in @JD_KaPow 's post:

I don't think that's what he's saying. I think he's saying that Super Bowl winning teams either play their regular-season games in an open-air cold-weather stadium or have "unbelievably historic" QB seasons. But neither interpretation actually works.

If it's your interpretation, counterexamples include SB LII, which was played indoors and won by Nick Foles, SB 50, which was played in CA and won by the decrepit husk of Peyton Manning, and SB XLVII, played in NO and won by Joe Flacco.

If it's my interpretation, one counterexample is SB XLVIII, which was won by Seattle and Russell Wilson. Wilson's great, but there was nothing "unbelievably historic" about his 2013 season. And calling Seattle "cold weather" is a big stretch.​

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Saw that. Your comment specifically mentioned you thought I was talking about super bowl locales when I referenced single digit temps in January. How did you link those things?

Aerolithe_Lion said:

That’s enough for you?

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Yep. As long as it's many more than your sorry *** Eagles will ever have it is.

Aerolithe_Lion said:

Seattle is a cold weather city during the winter. Temperatures in the 30’s is not uncommon. Not technically single digits in January, but still the same point.

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Okay, so you're stretching your argument beyond all recognition. The only teams that win Super Bowls are...NFL teams.

Tony Romo comes out of retirement down 21-0 in the second quarter. Wearing a leather helmet he leads Dallas to 35 unanswered points, including 4 TD's to All Pro Rico Gathers and we win 42- whatever

Aerolithe_Lion said:

In the last thirty-five years, every single super bowl winner fell into two categories:

Open Air, Cold Weather stadium (single digits in January playoffs)

or

Unbelievably historic, Hall-of-Fame Quarterback play (Greatest show on Turf, Peyton in Indy, Drew in NO).

EXCEPT for one single instance: when Jon Gruden basically knew his opponent’s game plan.

Fast forward to February 2020 and the Dallas Cowboys have just won Super Bowl 54. What is the reason they were able to break this streak? Dak throws 45 tds? Defense best in the world? Zeke runs for 2500? How do you predict it will happen?

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Ok so we are basing this on the past 35 years where on avg we have had 6- 8 domed teams or about 25% of all NFL teams. Your argument stipulating that basically the only domed teams whose QB won a Super Bowl were hall of fame style QB’s ? In addition you are stating this as how will Dak Prescott who plays in a stadium with a retractable roof (so I assume you are calling ATT Death Star a domed stadium ) whereas it isn’t a domed stadium nor can you consider the Cowboys a domed stadium team as old Texas Stadium was open , ask Leon Lett ..

So really this post is a discussion of ridiculous agenda chosen parameters for a purpose that is unknown , except to create a topic .

However I’ll play , sort of ..

IF Dak were to win it’s because the team , The Dallas Cowboys , beat the other team. This cherry picked stat / timeline of will they break the trend is ludicrous at best.
No team won a super bowl (or even made it ) after starting the season 0-2 until Dallas did ..
no team won the super bowl 3 out of 4 seasons until Dallas did ..

Point being we can look at history , cherry pick stats etc and start a topic that has little to no relevance ..

What’s next, let’s discuss the results of teams with qb’s that hurled in the big game and what their record was ?

Aerolithe_Lion said:

Seattle is a cold weather city during the winter. Temperatures in the 30’s is not uncommon. Not technically single digits in January, but still the same point.

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By that definition, Dallas is a cold weather city during the winter. Look it up...

stasheroo said:

Yep. As long as it's many more than your sorry *** Eagles will ever have it is.

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Give it time

cheftjpeck said:

Ok so we are basing this on the past 35 years where on avg we have had 6- 8 domed teams or about 25% of all NFL teams. Your argument stipulating that basically the only domed teams whose QB won a Super Bowl were hall of fame style QB’s ? In addition you are stating this as how will Dak Prescott who plays in a stadium with a retractable roof (so I assume you are calling ATT Death Star a domed stadium ) whereas it isn’t a domed stadium nor can you consider the Cowboys a domed stadium team as old Texas Stadium was open , ask Leon Lett ..

So really this post is a discussion of ridiculous agenda chosen parameters for a purpose that is unknown , except to create a topic .

However I’ll play , sort of ..

IF Dak were to win it’s because the team , The Dallas Cowboys , beat the other team. This cherry picked stat / timeline of will they break the trend is ludicrous at best.
No team won a super bowl (or even made it ) after starting the season 0-2 until Dallas did ..
no team won the super bowl 3 out of 4 seasons until Dallas did ..

Point being we can look at history , cherry pick stats etc and start a topic that has little to no relevance ..

What’s next, let’s discuss the results of teams with qb’s that hurled in the big game and what their record was ?

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Well, even retracted Dallas doesn’t count. Because it’s not just domed, it’s any warm weather team (that isn’t coached by the guy who trained the other team)

absolutism or absolution?

philly sucks.
GO COWBOYS

Aerolithe_Lion said:

Saw that. Your comment specifically mentioned you thought I was talking about super bowl locales when I referenced single digit temps in January. How did you link those things?

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I'm still not clear on your exact question.

Maybe this is what you meant:
The only teams with a home stadium that is a dome or in a warm weather area that have won a Super Bowl in the past 35 years had HoF type QBs.
- The exception being the Bucs 2002 season.

dome: includes retractable roof
warm weather: warmer than single digit temps in January.

cern said:

absolutism or absolution?

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Absolutism, very different

xwalker said:

I'm still not clear on your exact question.

Maybe this is what you meant:
The only teams with a home stadium that is a dome or in a warm weather area that have won a Super Bowl in the past 35 years had HoF type QBs.
- The exception being the Bucs 2002 season.

dome: includes retractable roof
warm weather: warmer than single digit temps in January.

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That works. Seattle is semantics as far as what you consider cold weather. If you need a coat, it’s cold weather. Dallas CAN get to 30 on a rare day, but otherwise you’d be fine in the winter in jeans and a sweatshirt.

The question is if Dallas breaks this loop, what would be the outlying reason no other team had?

Aerolithe_Lion said:

Give it time

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Yeah.

200 more years!

cern said:

absolutism or absolution?

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Aerolithe_Lion said:

Absolutism, very different

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I know. That wasn't the point. Bazinga.

cern said:

I know. That wasn't the point. Bazinga.

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It’s a play on words.