Twitter: Jesse Holley: Players are upset about Tavon Austin situation

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What are we averaging, 6 yards a return on the season? Odds are higher Zeke breaks a long TD run. :lmao:
Well the odds of scoring a td with 35 seconds and no TO's is very slim.
If I were HC what I would do is tell the special teams coach I want the punt blocked or he can find another job on monday.
Then tell tavon to return it, and if he doesnt get 40 yds, he will be cut monday.
And I might not be serious about those, but I would make them think I was so maybe I get max effort on both.
Tell the sp teams players the same thing lol.

Then if no block, and say 10 yd return, I would do the usual for next 2-3 plays, but then on hail mary, I would do this,
send 1 gallup to left endzone, send jarwin to right endzone, and Amari to go down and cut to middle of field around the 15 ,
so then the defenders are spread out, and dak to look at amari 1st, then if covered good throw to one side of endzone.
I think it is stupid to have all your guys in one side of endzone, and all the defenders there to which makes it near impossible
to jump for it.
Then it would help if this had all been practiced all season to prepare for this type situation,
which makes it more possible to work.
 

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Wouldn’t hurt my feelings if ST coach was fired anyways. You could see the looks after he fair caught that ball. One guys that maybe laid a hand on him but 3 or 4 blockers. It was likely a TD. Austin knew it.
 
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Sorry, but thats BS. You are still finding a way to blame JG on this. When this was clearly on the ST coach and then he lied about it on top of it all. This is the type of thing that will turn players against coaches in a heart beat.

A position coach does not make a key decision like this late in the game with no oversight. That is a decision that must be made, or at least approved by, the head coach. If it was and Garrett didn't veto it, he screwed up. If Garrett didn't know about it at all, he still screwed up. Why are any major game-changing decisions being made without the head coach knowing about it? What exactly are his job duties?
 
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I know but this is what you would be looking at if Austin returns and fumbles then everyone would have said..........Austin should have made the fair catch and there still would have been time on the clock for a couple of plays. It's just the nature of the beast in Dallas!

Yeah but things that don't work are always second guessed. It's the team's job block out the outside noise and make the plays necessary to win.
 

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This is so dumb. Clearly the coverage team slowed way down when they saw the hand go up early. This is much ado about nothing.
It really is. I’m shocked this is as big as everyone is making it. This offensive line and the linebackers are sliding to the background of blame.
 

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I won't be surprised to see austin inactive this week and wilson active because that is how things happen around here.

also I just looked at the all 22 and one of the coaches, an african american man which I can not tell who exactly it is because the all 22 is grainy immediately is upset and puts his hands on his head when the ball is in the air and austin calls for the fair catch.
I was listening to the XM radio broadcast and the objective announcers could not believe Austin fair caught that ball. They were beside themselves and said he had 20-25 yards easy if not all the way.
They also couldn't believe the 3 straight plays to Zeke when Cooper was unstoppable all game.
 

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They should cut Tavon tomorrow. He's worthless. One flash play every 8 months and he already used it up this year. He'll pull a something somewhere muscle and be on the sideline tweeting at some point this year.

Who gives a crap which coach told him what, he had 17 seconds. If he runs around for an extra 15 -20 yards they'd be left with 5 seconds. They have lots more issues trying to figure out why the defense goes into these collapses every few games. Work on that.

15-20 yards is 4-5 seconds. 2 -3 pass plays from more makeable distance.
 

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You would think a HC would be communicating with the ST coach in that situation demanding a FC or a return, so there are no surprises. A good coach should be in control of all critical situations.
 

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A position coach does not make a key decision like this late in the game with no oversight. That is a decision that must be made, or at least approved by, the head coach. If it was and Garrett didn't veto it, he screwed up. If Garrett didn't know about it at all, he still screwed up. Why are any major game-changing decisions being made without the head coach knowing about it? What exactly are his job duties?

lol what? he's the ST coach..he calls the ST plays just like the D-cord calls the d-plays and the O-cord calls the O plays. Let me guess, You think JG calls the offense and defense plays as well? Look, back in the good old days that was how it worked. But its not that way anymore and hasnt been in a really long time. But you are right about one thing. It doesn't matter what JG says or does he will be wrong in the eyes of many.
 

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Ex Cowboys WR Holley implying that Garrett sold out Austin.

Ex Cowboys WR Crayton has tweeted that Garrett "again" deferring blame onto players...
Crayton was also one of the players who talked about Garrot bringing out the new play book after he got Wade canned...
 

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Not to be nit-picky but it was 20 yards to the nearest Viking, 15 yards to the nearest play who was a Cowboy. But let's say Austin is able to return this down the left sideline. There are lots of blockers in front of him. I'd say he has a better than even chance to get at least to the 20 yard line. Can we assume there would be no holding of block in the back calls? The Cowboys have burned a lot of good returns with penalties like that. But lets assume they manage to stay clean. How much time would be left on the clock? Maybe 12 seconds at most? Probably 10. They would have two tries to get the ball into the end zone, assuming Moore didn't try to hand it off to Zeke! I like the Cowboys chances from the 20 with 2 plays a lot better than their own 45 with 3 plays, but its still a really, really long shot. So much could go wrong. A sack could end the game for example.

The coaches lying about what they told Austin is really bad and threatens to blow up the locker room. But the game was lost on the last Cowboys drive. Its that simple.
Actually you’re chances increase considerably trying closer distance than Hail Mary option. He should be running 15 + then step out. Chance of penalty,but not from what I saw as our wall. It’s the correct thing do...and Dallas naturally blew the opportunity. But you’re right...they did call a bad 3 play sequence to pop their own tire,what’s to say they don’t do something stupid anyways even if Austin does that? They look for ways to lose....and that one they really reached for it. You can’t trust anything ....you just don’t know. I never ever thought I’d see icing the punt returner to go with the infamous icing the kicker,but here we are.....a ice sandwich.
 
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lol what? he's the ST coach..he calls the ST plays just like the D-cord calls the d-plays and the O-cord calls the O plays. Let me guess, You think JG calls the offense and defense plays as well? Look, back in the good old days that was how it worked. But its not that way anymore and hasnt been in a really long time. But you are right about one thing. It doesn't matter what JG says or does he will be wrong in the eyes of many.

No, he doesn't call plays, but every major decision on the field is, or should be, run by him. What do you think the headset he wears is used for, genius?

Unless of course, you would like me to believe Garrett's headset actually isn't even connected to anything and he just wears it to hold down his toupee, or to make it look like he's actually working. Those are also totally plausible scenarios.
 

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I have said it over and over that Jerry has Garrett hamstrung
To those out there who still claim this and insist no coach would do any better under Jerry, this is a perfect example of where you're wrong. You think Jerry somehow doesn't want basic fundamentals like clear communication on the sideline? Is he somehow meddling or interfering with that, too?
 
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