If Giants fire Schumer. Garrett top priority?

CouchCoach said:

He's already said Garrett would have interest from 5 other teams.

The one thing no one has asked. Do you think Garrett is happy? As goofy as the Joneses are, they may have told him that Linehan was staying and he acted on that, they chancged their mind and he looked really foolish. Think he's not more from the Jimmy Johnson school of coaching than the Booger Jones style of coddling and excusing?

erod may be dead on. We only know Garrett from his stint here in Dallas with this reality show. We don't know if he's been on board with these bad actors Booger dragged in. Do we really think Garrett was OK with Hardy slapping that clipboard out of his STC's hands when he's getting his guys ready? How about Bryant's 'baby just has too much passion" walk off before the gun sounded? Owens and Bryant going off on the sideline and Bryant in the locker room.

Garrett is the HC in name but he is once removed form the players, they belong to Booger. I would like to see Garrett operate under a more traditional team set up just to know how much of this was him and how much the most ridiculous situation in professional sports history.

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You, sir, are a savant.

I'd bet, NOT A SINGLE team would have him, not as HC, he may get a gig as an OC some place but I seriously doubt after watching him flounder away 9 years in Dallas there would be any takers. I could be wrong,.....

cern said:

If the premise is could there be an owner so dumb he'd be willing to hire the failed experiment named garret, I suppose it could happen. I don't know why, but it's possible.

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That would depend on why he felt the experiment failed.

I have a theory, actually lots of them, but one specifically on this Garrett's attractiveness to other owners/GM's. Booger is an egotistical narcissist and they are most in their element when around others they see as contemporaries, in this case, the other owners. He's also a motor mouthed narcissist, the worst kind, and can't keep from trying to impress all of these other guys, that never played the game, just how much he knows about football. In doing so, he reveals just how much he's involved in areas they would never tread because they hire people to do that.

So, they see Garrett as this well spoken guy that presents himself well but really hasn't been a HC like they've had working for them. He's had one arm tied behind his back, particularly in dealing with players.

cern, go back to when Garrett first took over, what did he do? He changed the dress code and Barber defied him and what happened? But what do you think would have happened if Booger wasn't the players' buddy? He would have benched him for a half like Jimmy and Bill would have done when a player wants to play "who's the boss". How would Garrett, if not with Booger, handled Owens, Hardy and Bryant?

Booger, as GM has made the greatest failing of his job, failing to establish his HC's authority. Anyone think he's going to do that for the next one? Parcells forced his hand because he knew what would happen and he still did an end run with Owens taking him to breakfast every week so his feelings wouldn't be hurt.

I think the majority of owners in the NFL know exactly what the problem is with the Cowboys and Garrett's not it.

PLEASE LET AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN!

Sydla said:

So what's the alternative? Just keep backing Garrett and watch this franchise go another 5-7 years doing the same crap they've done the previous 9?

That's what is often missing when you guys want to argue with the "anyone but Garrett" position. Most of those people acknowledge Jones could hire a worse coach. But at this point, if it's painfully obvious they guy you have isn't good enough, the risk is worth it.

How much more evidence do you need that Garrett isn't the answer here?

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I don’t think most that subscribe to Coach’s view are necessarily against a change. It’s just that by far and away the majority of those espousing the opposite fail to acknowledge that it could be worse, maybe way worse. The prevalent view is suddenly all will be sunshine & daffodils. I have no doubt Jason will not be renewed if we don’t make the playoffs or are 1 and done. And that’s fine, it’s time in that case. But just be realistic, it doesn’t mean things can’t be worse - we’ve seen that it can be.

erod said:

What will shock people is that a lot of teams will be interested, and he may very well be successful once he leaves Jerry's circus tent act.

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He will never be more than a .500 coach ANYWHERE.

robjay04 said:

https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/11/i...on-garrett-and-make-him-the-top-priority.html


Garrett is familiar with the New York/New Jersey market, albeit not as a coach. But he is definitely familiar with coaching under pressure. He plays for an owner/GM, Jones, who is frequently and publicly candid with his analysis of the Cowboys’ performance.

Pressure in this market wouldn’t be an issue for Garrett. And it’s not like he’d have to worry about his GM or owner publicly assessing him on a regular basis, since Dave Gettleman and Mara don’t speak to reporters nearly as often as Jones.

Will Garrett to the Giants happen? Maybe not.

But if Mara has a chance to get Garrett, he can’t let it pass the Giants by.

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Obviously an opinion piece but figured it was worth a read or a chuckle. I saw a message board post on here a few weeks back with Giants fans thinking the same thing and now this article. I do think he will be a head coach somewhere next year if it’s not here.

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Please let this happen. Not only will we get a better coach but we’re guaranteed two wins a year.

gimmesix said:

That's certainly a possibility, and it's also possible that he'll have more success his second go-round like some others have done. So much would depend on the staff he assembles because he's simply not a good X and O's guy.

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Two that come to mind are Bill Belichick and Sean Payton who were not great HCs or OC (Sean Payton) but did great with other teams

Garrett has been exposed for years. I just don't see any NFL teams having legit interests in him.

A college program or a front office job. That's where I see him ending up.

Bigdog said:

Two that come to mind are Bill Belichick and Sean Payton who were not great HCs or OC (Sean Payton) but did great with other teams

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In particular, the NY fans and media were thrilled to let Parcells have Peyton. He was going to be fired (actually, I think it was just not renewed) had Parcells not poached him.

erod said:

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I wish he’d never left New York. We’ve wasted 10 years under this azz clown.

Bigdog said:

Two that come to mind are Bill Belichick and Sean Payton who were not great HCs or OC (Sean Payton) but did great with other teams

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Pete Carroll is another. And Gary Kubiak IIRC.

In my opinion, if both are fired, Garrett is a lock to the Giants.

xwalker said:

Trade Garrett to the Giants...

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Can't trade him, he is a free agent and the trading deadline has passed. Now, maybe the Cowboys can franchise Garrett and then the Giants give up two 1st round picks for him. Garrett is that good. Yeah, he is. Garrett really is that good, Mara. Take my word for it. Garrett knows all the Cowboy secrets. And Skin secrets, and Eagle secrets. Dude is a beast in the NFC East.

ninja said:

Can't trade him, he is a free agent and the trading deadline has passed. Now, maybe the Cowboys can franchise Garrett and then the Giants give up two 1st round picks for him. Garrett is that good. Yeah, he is. Garrett really is that good, Mara. Take my word for it. Garrett knows all the Cowboy secrets. And Skin secrets, and Eagle secrets. Dude is a beast in the NFC East.

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Maybe Garrett has been secretly working for Mara all along...

Mara: I'm going to hire you to get hired by Jerry and sabotage him...

As much as we all hate Garrett, I think some team would take a flier on him. Do we want him in the division? I think he is something like 37-19 against the NFC East.

Gonna be real great when Garrett goes to the Gs and wins a Super Bowl at the expense of the Jerry Boys

Bye

Hell yes, I’m available to help him pack

JG has had plenty of talent to win more playoff games. I don't see him somehow becoming a strong postseason HC.