A strong case for Urban Meyer as next Cowboys coach

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The only way it creates dead money is if you cut all the big money guys immediately. You don’t have to cut big money good players when they buy into your vision and culture.

You cut the big money leader that ISNT on board with your vision and everyone gets the message. Accountability is part of any successful organization.

Ah yes they give players weekly test to see if they are on board and if they fail they show them the door with armed escorts and sometimes even handcuffed. Do you really think players are going to stand up and say the heck with your way?
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If anyone calls what we've had this year a "bunch of injuries" they're an even bigger Garrett apologist than Jerry. That's just pathetic.



And THIS team has an "entire team of talent" continuing to be squandered by an overmatched, never-should-have-been 'head coach'. Who would never have been one if not for the Jones-Garrett family relationship.

I guess according to you, nobody should ever hire a college coach for the pros. Let's give back the illegally obtained Super Bowls won by Johnson and Switzerland.


Oh I see not having either starting tackle, #1 receiver and starting slot receiver, losing you starting OLB and safety and now Brown is nothing, nothing at all. The reason those backups are backups is they're not as good as the starters so YES, let me say that again YES the Cowboys have already had injury problems this season.

The Jones-Garrett family relationship is so hilarious as the reason Jones hired Garrett first as the OC and then as head coach. I'll bet you swear there was a 2nd gunman in the grassy knoll too.
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Ah yes they give players weekly test to see if they are on board and if they fail they show them the door with armed escorts and sometimes even handcuffed. Do you really think players are going to stand up and say the heck with your way?
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Seems to work fine in NE. And in a lot of other successful organizations.
 

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Yes lets look at your 3 examples. Brown and Gordon were both released for off the field issues and nothing to do with not producing or my way or the highway. Bennett was traded to the Cowboys but I guess you think because they trade a player that if they didn't they would have released him. Gee just like Jimmy Garoppolo.
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You're floundering.
 

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Oh I see not having either starting tackle, #1 receiver and starting slot receiver, losing you starting OLB and safety and now Brown is nothing, nothing at all. The reason those backups are backups is they're not as good as the starters so YES, let me say that again YES the Cowboys have already had injury problems this season.

For one frickin game! Boo hoo! End the season! The Cowboys got a couple of boo-boo's! Garrett gets another pass from his weak-minded sheeple.

You're pathetic.

The Jones-Garrett family relationship is so hilarious as the reason Jones hired Garrett first as the OC and then as head coach. I'll bet you swear there was a 2nd gunman in the grassy knoll too.
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Know what's really hilarious? Your weak *** excuses left and right. With NOTHING behind them. They're hilarious.
 

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Ah yes they give players weekly test to see if they are on board and if they fail they show them the door with armed escorts and sometimes even handcuffed. Do you really think players are going to stand up and say the heck with your way?
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Also... hyperbole much bro? :laugh::thumbup:
 

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Jerry would not hire a name like Meyer to come here now.

If he wins he would get every bit of the credit as to why.

Think Jerry and his ego would be ok with that??

Good one. The only chance at a real coach is when this roster is stripped to the 2000-2002 type area, and the cap is mismanaged to where it cant be fixed anytime soon.

Then Jerry will bring in someone, and run him out of town just when the roster is built back to where it can contend. Rinse, repeat. The dude has to die for any of this to change. He will never stop trying to prove his point.
 

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This isn't my work, but I think it gives a lot of good reasons why Meyer should be a strong consideration at head coach if a change is made:

The Next Head Coach of the Dallas Cowboys should be..

Posted on November 20, 2019
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It’s looking more and more likely that the 2019 season will go the way of the 2018 season- with a division title and a first or second round playoff loss. If the season plays out in that manner, it’s painfully obvious that Jason Garrett’s tenure will come to an end. Garrett will be remembered as a good coach, better than many of his predecessors, but one who couldn’t succeed when it mattered most for the team. The next page will need to be written on who will lead the Dallas Cowboys in 2020 and years to come. After reading and researching, the obvious top solution should be Urban Meyer. His qualifications and experiences check every box, making him the obvious choice and the person to take this team to the next level. Check out just some of the qualifications I’ve been able to come up with to validate the move.

1. Comfortable with Dak

As you consistently hear from national media the concern is continuing to move Dak ahead in his development. It should be remembered that Dak was coached and developed by Dan Mullen at Mississippi State. Mullen was a top assistant and offensive coordinator for Meyer at Florida and brought that system with him to Mississippi State. Dak is Urban’s type of QB and should continue his trajectory to becoming a Super Bowl caliber quarterback.

2. Handling Zeke

Zeke Elliott is possibly the Cowboys most dynamic and combustible player and the more success they have keeping him from the police blotter; the better for the team. With Urban being the new coach, it could draw comparison to Michael Irvin getting Jimmy Johnson many years ago. Irvin didn’t stay out of trouble his whole career in Dallas, but walked the line a lot better with Jimmy walking the halls.

3. Strong Familiarity with Current College Players

With the departure of Jason Garrett, the Cowboys would benefit with someone who is familiar with the next few draft classes and finding those diamonds in the rough. Meyer would add a valuable addition to the selection process something they have not had since Jimmy and the boys were in the war room.

4. Proven Track Record

Of course Urban has never walked the sidelines of an NFL team but he has won at four college programs Bowling Green (17-6 in 2 years), Utah (22-2 in 2 years), Florida (65-15 in 6 years) and Ohio State (83-9 in 7 years). He wins and wins big wherever he coaches in football. The belief from some circles is Dallas is the one of only a few NFL jobs that he would make the jump for to the professional ranks. The chance to become only the third coach to win a National Title and Super Bowl would be too tempting for Urban. Plus a Super Bowl title would give him something a certain coach in Alabama could not accomplish during his tenure in the NFL.

5. Player Development

First day NFL draft selections were a common event during Meyer’s stops in college, especially at Florida and Ohio State. The impressive aspect of Meyer’s tenure had players develop at nearly every position and wasn’t only focused on offense his calling card. He has the resume to convince anyone that he can get the best out of a player.

6. Coaching Staff

With the success that Meyer has had at the college ranks, recruiting a top echelon coaching staff should not be an issue, and many of his former assistants would likely lineup to coach with him again for the most valuable franchise in professional sports. As we have seen, Urban is a builder and not a long term answer, so possibly after five or six years, he would likely look to move on and maybe really retire as he would be in his early 60’s at that point. One of those assistants who made the jump with him could be next up to benefit from the work he would have done and assume the reigns in Big D.

7. Familiarity with both sides of the ball

Researching this article, I was surprised to discover that Meyer actually was a defensive back at the University of Cincinnati and some of his early stops as an assistant where on the defensive side of the ball. Urban is as sharp a football coach as there is on the market and has the feel, with his resume and the Cowboys talent, of a perfect marriage. Too often a hot offensive or defensive coordinator gets the promotion and then has to lean heavily on a coordinator on the other side. Urban knows football and would be the leader for both sides of the ball.

Recently, as many people have seen, Urban Meyer was on Fox Sport One with Colin Cowherd where he openly said “the Cowboys are the one team you answer,” when Colin asked if Lincoln Riley would take a call from Jerry Jones. Urban went on to rave about the talent on the team, the stage of coaching the Dallas Cowboys and the appeal of all things Dallas. The biggest concern I see for the Dallas Cowboys is Urban’s track record of having some players and assistants in his program that were not of the highest character and not fixing the situation appropriately when he was made aware of it. Granted Urban would not be the only voice, with the Cowboys controlling everything and I am sure Will McClay and the current front office would work in tandem with him in making sure the players behave within NFL rules.

Urban coming to the Cowboys sidelines has the feel of Phil Jackson joining the Lakers after playoff failures with Shaq and Kobe. We all remember how that ended. @ftballdialogue


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Very insightful article
 

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As a lifelong University of Michigan fan, and alum, I would absolutely love to be a beneficiary of Urb's considerable coaching acumen rather than a victim of it.

Whatever you think of him, the man can coach. Period.
and he takes whatever talent he has at his disposal and he maximizes the heck out of it. Week in and week out.

I would love to see him on the Cowboys sideline. JG wasted Romo, Dez, and Witten's careers.
Would be a shame to see him do the same to several of the talented players on our current roster.

Meyer would not make the same mistake.
 

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That's one person's assumption.

its not an assumption. its fact based on every college coach who ever coached in NFL. assumption is on your part thinking Meyer will have immediate success.
It's also about developing the talent you've recruited and acquired.

yes, some development is done, but in college recruiting is key key key and big name colleges get the best recruits. its not like the draft and having better recruits allows easier development. the talent difference between top colleges and the rest is astounding.

Just like it did for Jimmy in terms of it being a scouting advantage.


we had a scouting dept. scouting reports. draft process. him being a college coach didn't give him any advantage outside of his own players that he coached in Miami. at the end of the day, its scouting and draft.

Hey don't. His proven success doesn't need your buy in.
he has been successful at the college level. I have never said anything otherwise. my point is being successful at college level doesn't translate to NFL and there is a learning curve and more fail than succeed. Kelly failed. Schiano failed. Saban failed. Petrino failed. Spurrier failed. Dennis Erickson failed. June Jones failed. the one with success going directly from college to pros was Switzer, who went to a team so loaded, they were the FA supplier to rest of NFL and they had just won a superbowl and had 5 HOFers on the team. even he failed his first year and subsequently destroyed the team.

of those who succeeded most started as assistants before moving to head coaching positions. of those that jumped directly to head coaching positions, most failed and those who had some success took a few years.
 

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Oh I see not having either starting tackle, #1 receiver and starting slot receiver, losing you starting OLB and safety and now Brown is nothing, nothing at all. The reason those backups are backups is they're not as good as the starters so YES, let me say that again YES the Cowboys have already had injury problems this season.

The Jones-Garrett family relationship is so hilarious as the reason Jones hired Garrett first as the OC and then as head coach. I'll bet you swear there was a 2nd gunman in the grassy knoll too.
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he is supposed to coach them up:rolleyes:
 

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its not an assumption. its fact based on every college coach who ever coached in NFL. assumption is on your part thinking Meyer will have immediate success.

Barry Switzer. Don't try to use "every" as if it's some well-established, blanket statement of fact, it isn't.

yes, some development is done, but in college recruiting is key key key and big name colleges get the best recruits. its not like the draft and having better recruits allows easier development. the talent difference between top colleges and the rest is astounding.

And all talent needs to be developed. That's the point.


we had a scouting dept. scouting reports. draft process. him being a college coach didn't give him any advantage outside of his own players that he coached in Miami. at the end of the day, its scouting and draft.

Not true.
he has been successful at the college level. I have never said anything otherwise. my point is being successful at college level doesn't translate to NFL and there is a learning curve and more fail than succeed. Kelly failed. Schiano failed. Saban failed. Petrino failed. Spurrier failed. Dennis Erickson failed. June Jones failed. the one with success going directly from college to pros was Switzer, who went to a team so loaded, they were the FA supplier to rest of NFL and they had just won a superbowl and had 5 HOFers on the team. even he failed his first year and subsequently destroyed the team.

And this Cowboys team is loaded too, that's the point. And everyone who covers the league knows it, and makes clear that any issues the Cowboys may have aren't the result of any lack of player talent. The word is out, and everyone knows where the Cowboys problems truly lie. Even the enabling owner is starting to realize that.

of those who succeeded most started as assistants before moving to head coaching positions. of those that jumped directly to head coaching positions, most failed and those who had some success took a few years.

Meyer has succeeded everywhere he's gone, and quickly, again and again and again. His track record is as good as anyone we could otherwise get. If you have a better idea, I'm all ears. But I have to think that this is all about simply trying to poke holes in someone else's idea while not having your own. That's easy.
 

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The patriots have had a long history of releasing a player a year early opposed to a year late but tell me all of the big contract players they released leaving them a ton of dead money. Many of the free agents they sign are on 2 year contracts, often times for league minimum because those players as you say want a shot at getting a ring. They have dead money for Antonio Brown, Bennett who they traded to the Cowboys and Gronk who retired. Most of the rest of their dead money is at 100K, 200K chunks.

Lastly my comment wasn't about SIGNING players but if a new coach came in and tried the my way or highway approach with players already under contract will do nothing but create a ton of dead money which will cripple them from creating a good team like it has until last season going all the way back to when the cap started.
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good post. not only is belichick a goat head coach, he is also the ad hoc gm for the pats. he handles both positions with incredible skill.
 

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This isn't my work, but I think it gives a lot of good reasons why Meyer should be a strong consideration at head coach if a change is made:
Urban Cowboy would be the ideal candidate for Dallas' next HC. Without getting into it, there's only one problem why Jones wouldn't allow it. Urban would want to bring his own staff and rule the roost. Something Jerry has yet to allow.
 
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