Jarwin, Pollard, Be ready for primetime

BigStar · Jan 8, 2020

jrumann59 said:
Except he was better then the 20 somethings on the roster. Well except those that use that look at witten/jarwin through the Smith/Hambrick prism

Says our fired staff who showed obvious favoritism letting him come back to his starting position wo competition in the first place. This resulted in the team not even trying to imp the position with a FA TE or draftee. Jarwin may be a Hambrick (who knows) but Witten is closer to Michael Wiley at this point.

Kingofholland · Jan 8, 2020

Cowboys should re-sign Jarwin to a multi year deal this year. Cheap contract for a player that has a chance to take a big step forward and then cost more.

KeepinTime · Jan 8, 2020

What happened to Schultz? Seems like he just disappeared into thin air.

JD_KaPow · Jan 8, 2020

RBs and TEs who can't block don't get on the field, and fans always wonder why.

armadillooutlaw · Jan 8, 2020

Pollard along with Zeke is going to do some damage out in space, on screens, ect.
Would not surprise me at all to see those two combine for 100 receptions.
Jarwin is nice, but don't really think he's a starter, but more a solid TE2 that should be used like a big slot reciever, IMO.
Dallas does need to invest in a top-quality TE1 for 2020, IMO.
A guy like Hooper from Atlanta would be a good catch, IMO.
Or draft a guy.

buybuydandavis · Jan 8, 2020

Hayseed said:
Look for Pollard to be in the backfield WITH Zeke much more than he ever was last season. I would actually also look for him to even steal some of Cobbs snaps out of the slot to both preserve Cobb a little and get a bit more speed on the field.

And Jarwin? I look for him to be "A THING" next year. I really do. Kid has the juice to be a real midrange to down field threat at T.E very similar to what Kelse does in Kansas city. Kids a big target athlete with great size. Predictable is going bye bye. As someone who has been forced to watch tons of Packer games due to where I live I can tell you all this junk about McCarthey being predictable is just that......JUNK! A bunch of bull sheet. Gonna be fun.

I think Pollard was pegged as the slot "web back" since we drafted him. Bigger, stronger, legit RB compared to Tavon. Run down slot guy.

Cobb should be the pass down slot guy. We have to keep him. He was really good in the back half of the season. QB rating when thrown to in the 120s.

Jarwin was used all over the field in college. WR/TE/FB. "Cowboy" position. I'm surprised we didn't do more of the same. If they want to use Jarwin a lot, they should extend him in the offseason. Don't build a big role around a young short timer.

buybuydandavis · Jan 8, 2020

armadillooutlaw said:
Dallas does need to invest in a top-quality TE1 for 2020, IMO.
A guy like Hooper from Atlanta would be a good catch, IMO.
Or draft a guy.

We need a serious blocking TE. A short yardage guy. I wish they'd take a T and teach him some 3 yard routes. Gotta be easier than teaching Rico how to play football.

buybuydandavis · Jan 8, 2020

JD_KaPow said:
RBs and TEs who can't block don't get on the field, and fans always wonder why.

If Rico had focused from day one on his blocking, he'd be well into at a 10 year career in the NFL. Another coaching failure.

buybuydandavis · Jan 8, 2020

charron said:
Jarwin as a starting TE was not good. Maybe he's grown a ton since 2018 where he was not anywhere as good but we will see. In 2019 defenses knew 1 thing, witten is daks security blanket so he got a little more attention. Jarwin certainly had more ability to make a defender miss so we'll see.

Witten's yards per target in the second half of the season was under 5. He's got to go.

charron · Jan 8, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
Witten's yards per target in the second half of the season was under 5. He's got to go.

Everyones yards per target went down. The problem wasn't 1 guy. it just seems when facing better defenses coaches were trying to get Dak easier throws and those tend to be closer. Wittens biggest issue is he doesn't make people miss or break tackles. Jarwin wasn't catching 20 yard passes either he can just run after the catch better and should get another opportunity but you better get either a veteran or young guy who can come in and play immediately in addition to him.

BrassCowboy · Jan 8, 2020

darthseinfeld said:
Problem is predictable is what you are going to get with Jarwin in the game. He is terrible run and is practically unplayable on run downs.

If Witten retires, expect our TE in 2020 to be someone not currently on the roster. Doesnt mean Jarwin wont get used, but dont expect a huge uptick in snaps either

well thats ok because the WCO runs the ball less, and I do wonder if it uses a power running game that would utilize more TE anyways.

buybuydandavis · Jan 8, 2020

charron said:
Everyones yards per target went down. The problem wasn't 1 guy. it just seems when facing better defenses coaches were trying to get Dak easier throws and those tend to be closer. Wittens biggest issue is he doesn't make people miss or break tackles. Jarwin wasn't catching 20 yard passes either he can just run after the catch better and should get another opportunity but you better get either a veteran or young guy who can come in and play immediately in addition to him.

Yards per target were generally great. Last 2 seasons for Witten were 6.4. Last half season less than 5. He's done.

It's not just that he doesn't run after the catch, he doesn't get separation to get the catch. If he were just a nobody TE bringing him in as a FA would be fine. But considering Witten as a go to guy hurt us last year. He's just not going to be treated like his play deserves. He's got to go.

We do need another TE. Or two. Or three. Schultz has shown nothing. We should have at least 2 more legitimate TEs going into camp, and cutting Schultz should be seen as an option.

GMO415 · Jan 8, 2020

West coast offense has several passes to the RBs

buybuydandavis · Jan 8, 2020

BrassCowboy said:
well thats ok because the WCO runs the ball less, and I do wonder if it uses a power running game that would utilize more TE anyways.

We should bring in more elements of WCO, but I hope we keep a lot of what we have.

If anything, I want to run the ball more, but with guys not named Zeke. We did well going up the field this year, and we shouldn't lose that, but we could use more short horizontal routes with guys who can run.

Much like defense, we should run a system less but adaptively use elements from different systems more.

Joe Realist · Jan 8, 2020

Isnt jarwin a free agent?

Ranched · Jan 8, 2020

"Jarwin, Pollard, Be ready for primetime"

zrinkill said:
When did Witten retire?

He didn't. He's just not a primetime player any longer. :lmao:

BrassCowboy · Jan 8, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
We should bring in more elements of WCO, but I hope we keep a lot of what we have.

If anything, I want to run the ball more, but with guys not named Zeke. We did well going up the field this year, and we shouldn't lose that, but we could use more short horizontal routes with guys who can run.

Much like defense, we should run a system less but adaptively use elements from different systems more.

well I have my doubts about Kellen Moore just yet, but at same time this could be why he is McCarthy's choice to remain at OC. Not necessarily to call plays because I think/want McCarthy should keep that role, but to learn from McCarthy how to properly call an offense. McCarthy, atleast based on his off year work, seems to be open to whatever improves his game so I am sure Moore can teach him stuff as well.
Saying that, I don't want to recognize our offense next year. We shouldn't.

nyc-cowboy · Jan 8, 2020

darthseinfeld said:
Problem is predictable is what you are going to get with Jarwin in the game. He is terrible run and is practically unplayable on run downs.

If Witten retires, expect our TE in 2020 to be someone not currently on the roster. Doesnt mean Jarwin wont get used, but dont expect a huge uptick in snaps either

I dont know about that - "unplayable" is a bit much.

If you have the Rams game on DVR take a look, he wasn't that bad. He actually got some good blocks in on a few runs, especially on the last Pollard TD run.

Now, not saying he's a great blocker but he might just be good enough for what he he brings in the pass game.
He might not be an every down TE but certainly a very good 2-TE

beware_d-ware · Jan 8, 2020

Don't expect McCarthy to feature an explosive young running back.

He limited Aaron Jones to 100 and 150 touches his first two years, even though he was averaging 5.5 YPC. He gave an equal number of carries to a guy named Jamal Williams, a plodder with 8th percentile NFL athleticism and a sub-4 YPC average. Packers fans were screaming for two years to give Jones more touches, and McCarthy never did. It took a coaching change to unlock Jones's talent.

buybuydandavis · Jan 8, 2020

BrassCowboy said:
well I have my doubts about Kellen Moore just yet, but at same time this could be why he is McCarthy's choice to remain at OC. Not necessarily to call plays because I think/want McCarthy should keep that role, but to learn from McCarthy how to properly call an offense. McCarthy, atleast based on his off year work, seems to be open to whatever improves his game so I am sure Moore can teach him stuff as well.
Saying that, I don't want to recognize our offense next year. We shouldn't.

It's a good pairing. Both bring scheme that the other doesn't. McCarthy brings more experience and authority. Much more management experience.

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