Let's assume Prescott is tagged

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What to do next?

The needs at all positions in the draft and FA are not known yet and one main one is what to do with Cooper and is Gallup really ready to move to #1WR? Some good WR's in the 1st round.

If they let Jones walk, does the 1st round need not become CB and the GM loves him some CB's in the 1st.

But what about QB? Who could fall to 17? Do they really roll the dice and go for Tua with Prescott on a 1 year tag? The Tua deal would be the most interesting but a gamble and a lot of draft collateral would have to be given up. The Lions, and it's not a given that they wouldn't take Tua and let Stafford walk in 21, would be the most logical trade partner to get above Miami at 5.

Or do they take their chances with one of the lesser star QB's like Herbert, Love, Fromm or Eason?

The other unknown in this is what does the new HC think about his comeback with Prescott as his guy for the next 3-5 years, knowing he's not likely to ever be Tier 1 and will need the team around him?

The bottom line question is this. Do you trust this FO with tagging the QB and making the right moves or just signing him to a 5 year deal and being done with it with fewer decisions to make?

I think the right move is to tag him and give him a year in Big Mike's system but the other moves that have to take place and their history with the QB position makes me lean toward that bird in the hand situation.

But his is not whether to tag him or not. The assumption is he is tagged, what are the next moves?
 
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mattjames2010 said:
You take any QB in the first round, that means Dak is gone and you shouldn't even waste a tag on him. Put it on another player.
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That doesn't mean Dak is gone. He can still prove himself. If he does, and the rookie is good, you have a heckuva trade commodity.

The Packers did it for years.

Mark Brunell, Koy Detmer, Aaron Brooks, Matt Flynn, etc......the Packers turned those guys into high draft picks during Brett Farve's tenure.

Then they drafted Aaron Rodgers with Farve still there.
 
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erod said:
That doesn't mean Dak is gone. He can still prove himself. If he does, and the rookie is good, you have a heckuva trade commodity.

The Packers did it for years.

Mark Brunell, Koy Detmer, Aaron Brooks, Matt Flynn, etc......the Packers turned those guys into high draft picks during Brett Farve's tenure.

Then they drafted Aaron Rodgers with Farve still there.
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I can see Dallas drafting a QB mid rd but given needs on DL and safety not to mention with a new staff in place and their views on roster moves I don't see Cowboys using any top pick for a QB.
 
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There is really no point in talking about Dak because he is going to get some sort of deal, but since we are.....

If we were to take a qb in the first round, what good qb will be available when we pick. If we move up, we give up the following years 1st and maybe even a 2nd. Maybe even 2021 and 22 1st round picks. It just depends on how far we are able to move up. jmho.
 
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erod said:
That doesn't mean Dak is gone. He can still prove himself. If he does, and the rookie is good, you have a heckuva trade commodity.

The Packers did it for years.

Mark Brunell, Koy Detmer, Aaron Brooks, Matt Flynn, etc......the Packers turned those guys into high draft picks during Brett Farve's tenure.

Then they drafted Aaron Rodgers with Farve still there.
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Favre was at the end of his career when they drafted Rodgers. Dak is young and would be looking for an extended contract and a pricey one. This is not a similar situation. Why would you risk losing other players for a guy that is obviously not in your future plans?

We are discussing a hypothetical about using a first round pick, a premium pick, on a QB. That's an intent on it being a franchise QB. I mean, there is no logic behind drafting one, slapping a 33 million tag on Dak, and letting another player possibly go because you want your future franchise QB riding the bench rather than getting on-field experience his first season. It's just silly.

Either the team is in on Dak or they are not. You draft a QB in the first round and I'm not even sure Dak would want to stick around.
 
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If he isn’t good enough to sign long term, don’t spend so much money for a one year rental. Just decide to move on already. Tank if you have to, but no one year rental.
 
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They will not draft a QB high. Maybe another 4th round selection but I doubt it.
 
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erod said:
That doesn't mean Dak is gone. He can still prove himself. If he does, and the rookie is good, you have a heckuva trade commodity.

The Packers did it for years.

Mark Brunell, Koy Detmer, Aaron Brooks, Matt Flynn, etc......the Packers turned those guys into high draft picks during Brett Farve's tenure.

Then they drafted Aaron Rodgers with Farve still there.
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Koy Detmer never played for the packers. Ty did and he was never traded. Nor was Matt Flynn

Brooks and Brunell were traded for nothing hire than a 3rd.

And you should have just made your thread title “The Cowboys should let Dak walk and trade up for a QB.” That’s the only real point you have, even though it wouldn’t help anything and it’s unrealistic. The Cowboys don’t currently have a SB level roster, upgrading from Dak to Joe Burrows while losing all meaningful draft capital isn’t going to change that. Nor would the Bengals be willing to trade the franchise QB they desperately need to move back into the teens of the draft.
 
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erod said:
Seriously, I'd trade our 1, 2, 3 and next year's 1 for Joe Burrow. Whatever it takes.
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It would take too much. Those signs at CIN's last ball game weren't lost on Mike Brown. It would be a Ricky Williams type trade to get them to give him up.

I don't think we've seen what the teams like NE, NO, LAR and PIT might do with QB's with one leg out the door but NO could do a sign and trade with Bridgewater and send their draft to CIN for Burrow and keep him in LA. CIN might get a shot at Lawrence the next year. Or they might go for OSU's Justin Fields.
 
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Koy Detmer never played for the packers. Ty did and he was never traded. Nor was Matt Flynn

Brooks and Brunell were traded for nothing hire than a 3rd.

And you should have just made your thread title “The Cowboys should let Dak walk and trade up for a QB.” That’s the only real point you have, even though it wouldn’t help anything and it’s unrealistic. The Cowboys don’t currently have a SB level roster, upgrading from Dak to Joe Burrows while losing all meaningful draft capital isn’t going to change that. Nor would the Bengals be willing to trade the franchise QB they desperately need to move back into the teens of the draft.
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It's actually my thread and what to do assuming Prescott is tagged for this year.

And to the point, does tagging him force them to take the best QB available? Or do they wait a year and maybe grab a QB in the 2nd this year to replace Rush and get a good look at him?

And it is unusual to have both the QB and WR1 up at the same time, along with other needs.
 
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Doomsday101 said:
I can see Dallas drafting a QB mid rd but given needs on DL and safety not to mention with a new staff in place and their views on roster moves I don't see Cowboys using any top pick for a QB.
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me as well but whos there im thinking Hurts is interesting around 3 or 4th rounds.. hes a poor mans Jackson can be close to a Dak with MM tutelage..the Dc cant waste a pick on a backup qb in the sense they are needing to replace or retain 18+ players on defense who a lot of them play ST..thats a lot of needs ahead of any offensive players.// so thats why I believe Hurts will be there around 4th round..
 
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erod said:
That doesn't mean Dak is gone. He can still prove himself. If he does, and the rookie is good, you have a heckuva trade commodity.

The Packers did it for years.

Mark Brunell, Koy Detmer, Aaron Brooks, Matt Flynn, etc......the Packers turned those guys into high draft picks during Brett Farve's tenure.

Then they drafted Aaron Rodgers with Farve still there.
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Ron Wolf was a huge proponent of taking a QB every year. This was his philosophy.
 
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I just do not see the Cowboys drafting a QB in the first unless one of the top ranked QBs drops into their laps for some reason. Even then, I don't see it. If one of them makes it to the 2nd round somehow, maybe Jerry takes him. He likes to use the 2nd round for risky decisions.

I think the Cowboys are going to tag Dak is they cannot sign him but they will make every effort to sign him. They will try to sign Cooper too. I don't think Gallup is a true #1 receiver. But at the same time, Gallup is good enough that if the Cowboys draft another guy like him the pair would more than compensate for losing Cooper to free agency. There are a few really good WRs in this draft. I do see the Cowboys taking at least 1 WR in this draft but I am thinking it will be more of a slot guy.

But signing Cooper means they can use a high draft pick to fill holes in the defense. They have to sign Brown or Jones. My guess is they sign Brown coming off an injury before they sign Jones. I like Jones but we all know he is going to get a ridiculous offer from someone. But if they sign Brown, they have Awuzie, Lewis and Brown as starters which may be good enough with better coaching and certainly good enough if they can fix the DL. I would rather they sign/draft several players for the DL - a free agent DT and draft a DT in the first round. A DL that can push the pocket will make Brown, Lewis and Awuzie much better.

The reality is, the Cowboys have so many free agents this off-season that predicting the direction of the draft is going to be impossible. It may be BPA this year because they will have so many holes to fill.
 
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I say we draft a QB. Eason, Hurts, Fromm (if he declares), Herbert, Tua, Burrow are all possible candidates that should get opportunities. However, I would not oppose not drafting one this year as we do have a lot of defensive needs. In case of that, I say we wait until next year, but closely monitor college QB's like Fields and Lawerence. Trade up and draft them.
 
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