If Dak is signed I will back him

Awful post by a clueless poster.

leeblair said:

I don't dislike the kid, and I think he's an outstanding athlete.
But he has issues. Saying so does not represent an insult. Part of those issues came from being coddled by Jones and Garrett- who never made him earn his spot in the preseason.
Any competition- Kellen Moore included- were never allowed to play behind the first string linemen, and Dak was never forced to play behind second string linemen.
This is why he never improved. He was made a team captain in his second year, which showed the immaturity of the Cowboys.
Dak chokes under pressure, but he can possibly get past that with adequate coaching.
He needs to mature. He needs to quit believing the hype of his diehard fans.
He needs to improve.
He needs to be the "guy" if the Cowboys hope to succeed next season.
But the fact is that a guy like Case Keenum is better than him right now.

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keysersoze said:

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All of these clever comments, yet no one cares to deal with the terrible play of Prescott that helped the Cowboys underachieve again in 2019.
The film doesn't lie, and Prescott played terrible when the game was on the line.
8-8 is the stat that best describes the issues with Prescott.
Like it or not.

leeblair said:

All of these clever comments, yet no one cares to deal with the terrible play of Prescott that helped the Cowboys underachieve again in 2019.
The film doesn't lie, and Prescott played terrible when the game was on the line.
8-8 is the stat that best describes the issues with Prescott.
Like it or not.

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Actually the entire team played terrible this season because they quit on the coach. Anybody using this season to make a point about how bad or good a player is or isn't is just silly.

Irvin88_4life said:

Actually the entire team played terrible this season because they quit on the coach. Anybody using this season to make a point about how bad or good a player is or isn't is just silly.

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Yea. Only those with an agenda don’t recognize that fact

foofighters said:

How many Dak threads do we need?

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Atleast 100 more
From the same people
Saying the same thing

Irvin88_4life said:

Actually the entire team played terrible this season because they quit on the coach. Anybody using this season to make a point about how bad or good a player is or isn't is just silly.

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That might sound good to you, but we watched as Dak choked and threw an interception vs the Vikings that set up a score when he threw.it right to a rusher.
We watched as he missed wide open receivers on would-be touchdowns. We watched as he threw the ball into the ground on 4th down vs the Bill's.
We watched as he came apart when the season was on the line.
Now you guys want to justify giving him a big money contract? Are you serious?
I posted a thread here after the 3rd game and told you all we were about to see if in fact he was "the guy".
He was responded by losing 8 of the last 14 games - many against teams that the Cowboys should have beaten easily.
He quit on the season just like the others.
And you still want to justify giving him big money?
Are you serious?

leeblair said:

That might sound good to you, but we watched as Dak choked and threw an interception vs the Vikings that set up a score when he threw.it right to a rusher.
We watched as he missed wide open receivers on would-be touchdowns. We watched as he threw the ball into the ground on 4th down vs the Bill's.
We watched as he came apart when the season was on the line.
Now you guys want to justify giving him a big money contract? Are you serious?
I posted a thread here after the 3rd game and told you all we were about to see if in fact he was "the guy".
He was responded by losing 8 of the last 14 games - many against teams that the Cowboys should have beaten easily.
He quit on the season just like the others.
And you still want to justify giving him big money?
Are you serious?

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You justify anybody on that team with a contract? The entire team team was a mess because of coaching issues.

What's even more funny you want to talk about the Vikings game but yet Dak got the team the lead before half but what did the defense do? After Dak got the lead he was down 13 points three next time he got the ball because the defense gave up a TD before halftime and then let the Vikings drive for another TD at the start of the 3rd quarter. Dak then came back again in the game, got the team in the redzone at the end of the game to win it and three coaching staff ran Zeke instead of letting Dak win the game after he shredded three Vikings defense. Go back and look up his stats against the Vikings, who were a very good team bu the way and then try to use that stupid Dak couldn't perform against good teams. I see you don't mention anything about receivers dropping passes that ended up in interceptions, defense getting no turnovers, special teams giving the worst field position in the league, guess games like the saints where Zeke and Witten both fumbled and lost the ball in a close game, or special teams getting a punt block that lead to the Patriots only TD of the game. Yep all of that is Dak faults too.

Of course you'll support him, we're fans. But, we'll have to accept that we're signing up for a run of no titles until we get smart and move on.

Irvin88_4life said:

Actually the entire team played terrible this season because they quit on the coach. Anybody using this season to make a point about how bad or good a player is or isn't is just silly.

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A whole lotta truth in that post.

big dog cowboy said:

A whole lotta truth in that post.

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And you're willing to just happily accept the Cowboys paying $35-40 million to a quarterback who quit on his team?

leeblair said:

And you're willing to just happily accept the Cowboys paying $35-40 million to a quarterback who quit on his team?

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This isn't a hard concept. Dak didn't quit on the team, the team quit on the coach.

Did you say the same thing about Romo and Ware when they quit on Wade?

Irvin88_4life said:

This isn't a hard concept. Dak didn't quit on the team, the team quit on the coach.

Did you say the same thing about Romo and Ware when they quit on Wade?

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Yes.
Tony Romo's entire career was wasted under Garrett and I was disappointed that he chose to go along with his ways.
Ware, however, didn't quit. None of the defense did. They were ranked #1 in the NFL after the first 5 games, but they kept having to be on the field most of the time because Garrett's offense was so bad.
It was the offense, not the defense, that caused the collapse of 2010 that got Wade Phillips fired.
Even in the Green Bay debacle, the defense played hard-even blocking a field goal- but the offense kept turning the ball over.

Mr_C said:

14

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That's 14 in dog years

leeblair said:

Yes.
Tony Romo's entire career was wasted under Garrett and I was disappointed that he chose to go along with his ways.
Ware, however, didn't quit. None of the defense did. They were ranked #1 in the NFL after the first 5 games, but they kept having to be on the field most of the time because Garrett's offense was so bad.
It was the offense, not the defense, that caused the collapse of 2010 that got Wade Phillips fired.
Even in the Green Bay debacle, the defense played hard-even blocking a field goal- but the offense kept turning the ball over.

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What are you smoking.
This is what the defense gave up to teams

27 to Bears
34 to Titans
24 to Vikings
41 to Giants
35 to Jaguars
45 to Packers

Not only that but they also gave up almost 5 straight games of 30 or more in the second half of the season.

That entire team quit on the coach including Ware and any other player you want to mention. But in your silly mind they aren't Dak so can't blame them right, they should get those big contracts because you like them. Damn hypocrites when it comes to Dak and y'all are pathetic and should be ashamed to even claim to be a Cowboys fan with y'all foolish statements

Irvin88_4life said:

What are you smoking.
This is what the defense gave up to teams

27 to Bears
34 to Titans
24 to Vikings
41 to Giants
35 to Jaguars
45 to Packers

Not only that but they also gave up almost 5 straight games of 30 or more in the second half of the season.

That entire team quit on the coach including Ware and any other player you want to mention. But in your silly mind they aren't Dak so can't blame them right, they should get those big contracts because you like them. Damn hypocrites when it comes to Dak and y'all are pathetic and should be ashamed to even claim to be a Cowboys fan with y'all foolish statements

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Better go back and check your information.
Of those scores you mentioned, it was turnovers by the Cowboys in their own end of the field in EVERY game that provided the opposing team with 10-14 points.
In the Giants game, the defense gave the Cowboys offense the ball in the first quarter deep inside the Giants territory TWICE, but the Cowboys offense could only muster 7 points from it. Romo got hurt after that and the offense completely shut down, leaving the Cowboys defense on the field most of the night.

Jake said:

It's really hard to take folks seriously when they blow off reality.

His first three years in the league:

Since 1994, which is as far back as Pro Football Reference goes on this particular stat, Prescott leads the league in career passer rating when tied or trailing by eight points or fewer in the fourth quarter or overtime. He has a 109.7 passer rating in that situation, leading all quarterbacks who have at least 100 attempts when tied or trailing by one score in the fourth quarter or overtime. In fact, no other quarterback has a passer rating above 100 with Andrew Luck (97.7), Romo (95.4), Russell Wilson (93.8), Ben Roethlisberger (93.3) and Drew Brees (92.4) trailing.

He has nine fourth-quarter comebacks and 15 game-winning drives in his three seasons.

Dak isn't perfect but saying he "chokes under pressure" is ridiculous.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...tt-now-has-led-nine-fourth-quarter-comebacks/

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….very Skip Bayless like. We were 8-8, missed the playoffs, blamed everybody else, named Zeke the Fall Guy, made excuses all year, had an inexperienced OC, had an old TE, etc....couldn't score when the defense played well. yada, yada, yada. Dak stats were misleading.

Mr_C said:

Didn’t he have the most 4th quarter comebacks for a while?

Isn’t almost 5k yards a sign of improvement?

Case Keenum

At any rate I’m glade you’ll support him.

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I thought I heard we were 0-7 this year when we were behind at the half and 1-13 over the last 2 years. I think it was mentioned during the 2nd Eagles game.

leeblair said:

Daks stats are very misleading.
They don't show the games he cost the Cowboys with his poor throws, interceptions, choking, and quitting on the team.
Like most quarterbacks who throw for big stats he lost a lot.
The only stat that matters is Wins vs Losses.
Dak isn't doing too well in that category.
In 2017 the Cowboys were really 8-8. The only reason they got the ninth win was because Philadelphia rested their starters in the last game of the season.
So that's two 8-8 seasons and a 10-6 season in the weakest division in the NFL.
And the one 13-3 season was NOT because of Dak. It was because he was behind the strongest line in the NFL in the weakest division and had Ezekiel Elliott drawing the attention of opposing defenses.
Don't throw out stats to support your arguments; they aren't on his side.

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Yeah those missed field goals shows how bad of a QB Dak is.

Mr_C said:

Didn’t he have the most 4th quarter comebacks for a while?

Isn’t almost 5k yards a sign of improvement?

Case Keenum

At any rate I’m glade you’ll support him.

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He didn't have a single 4th quarter comeback last year, and played poorly against every good team we played.

You gonna pay him for what he did in 2016?