If the Cowboys are going to pay top dollar for a quarterback there are better options

Section446 · Jan 17, 2020

Dak is on the same level as Keenum.

He's a level above Mariota.

He's below Cam.

Brady is old.

Parcells4Life · Jan 17, 2020

Dak had the 4th best QBR in the league. Mariota is abysmal. Look at Tannehill’s numbers when he became starter with the same team. Keenum got benched or dumped by the Broncos and Commanders the last 2 years.

If Cam could stay healthy I might say yes on that because he has more physical talent but his body’s been done the last 2 years.

This is why there’s an ignore button lol

G2 · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Yet Case Keenum-not Dak Prescott- has led his team to an NFC Championship game.
Dak has proven repeatedly that he will flounder against real competition.
And Mariota is a victim of timing; the Titans got their act together towards the end of the season, but Mariota had led them to what should have been wins and lost due to dropped passes and missed field goals.
The Cowboys lost because Dak missed wide open receivers and threw the ball into the ground.
You may not have watched Keenum or Mariota, but you have seen Dak Prescott choke repeatedly in big games.

You serious Clark?

JayNovacek84 · Jan 17, 2020

erod said:
I would be very interested in Ryan Tannehill. I've always thought he just needed to get out of Miami.

And he wouldn't cost $35 million a year.

And I think Teddy Bridgewater could absolutely do what Dak is doing, but for a lot less money. Same for Andy Dalton.

Andy Dalton? :thumbdown:

visionary · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Cam Newton is going to be available. He would be amazing in Dallas.
I'd rather see Dallas get Cam than pay big money for Dak.

Case Keenum is available. He led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game. He is a better deal than Dak.

Marcus Mariota will be available. He would be better.

Tom Brady will probably be available.

And more.
As I said, I will back Dak if they sign him.
But there are much better options.

If you want to make a case FOR signing Dak, it would have been easier to just say that
:angry:

hambone63 · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Cam Newton is going to be available. He would be amazing in Dallas.
I'd rather see Dallas get Cam than pay big money for Dak.

Case Keenum is available. He led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game. He is a better deal than Dak.

Marcus Mariota will be available. He would be better.

Tom Brady will probably be available.

And more.
As I said, I will back Dak if they sign him.
But there are much better options.

The Ranch lives!!! Tell these guys how great a QB helen Moore was Lee!

Proof · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Keenum IS better.
It's not even close.

lol he’s the Commanders backup. The Vikings didn’t try and retain him, and after leading the broncos to a 6-10 record they traded him for a 6th round pick because they’d rather have a completely finished joe Flacco. Stop it

Silver N Blue · Jan 17, 2020

Sydla said:
What's the goal here? To just save money or to actually try to make a SB run soon?

None of those three give the Cowboys a better chance at a run over the next few years than Dak. Keenum is blah. Mariota is limited. Brady is about done in terms of being a good QB due to age.

So sure, don't pay Dak but don't list those three guys as better options to win in the near future.

LittleD · Jan 17, 2020

Sydla said:
What's the goal here? To just save money or to actually try to make a SB run soon?

None of those three give the Cowboys a better chance at a run over the next few years than Dak. Keenum is blah. Mariota is limited. Brady is about done in terms of being a good QB due to age.

So sure, don't pay Dak but don't list those three guys as better options to win in the near future.

Do you really believe that? Brady didn't have his reliable TE's or decent receivers this season and they still made the playoffs. Dak wet the bed every time
he had to play a decent team and he still managed to lose to the lowly Jets. You really think that is worth 35mil per season? McCarthy likes the WCO/timing offense
and we have the receivers to play that. Get what you can for Dak and get Brady for two years.

Gorgon · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Cam Newton is going to be available. He would be amazing in Dallas.
I'd rather see Dallas get Cam than pay big money for Dak.

Case Keenum is available. He led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game. He is a better deal than Dak.

Marcus Mariota will be available. He would be better.

Tom Brady will probably be available.

And more.
As I said, I will back Dak if they sign him.
But there are much better options.

Except for Brady---who is way too old---these guys aren't close to Dak. Not in light years.

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 17, 2020

Skillit said:
Man.....I thought your idiocy at the ranch was just an act.

nope- this is really you.

do you ever get tired?

you know he is an alcoholic, so a couple too many and there he goes again...

remember his rants about tashard choice being better than emmitt and Kellen Moore being better than Romo LOL

risco · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Cam Newton is going to be available. He would be amazing in Dallas.
I'd rather see Dallas get Cam than pay big money for Dak.

Case Keenum is available. He led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game. He is a better deal than Dak.

Marcus Mariota will be available. He would be better.

Tom Brady will probably be available.

And more.
As I said, I will back Dak if they sign him.
But there are much better options.

GRACIOUS!

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Yet Case Keenum-not Dak Prescott- has led his team to an NFC Championship game.
Dak has proven repeatedly that he will flounder against real competition.
And Mariota is a victim of timing; the Titans got their act together towards the end of the season, but Mariota had led them to what should have been wins and lost due to dropped passes and missed field goals.
The Cowboys lost because Dak missed wide open receivers and threw the ball into the ground.
You may not have watched Keenum or Mariota, but you have seen Dak Prescott choke repeatedly in big games.

so you used to go on rants about Garrett being an awful coach...legendary drunk rants at the ranch....and even here.....yet here you criticize Dak who played for garrett. and if Keenum is that good, why do teams keep letting him go....

and based on this backwoods of Tennessee logic, does this mean that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Marino since Dilfer won a superbowl and Marino didn't?

and why is it the titans got their act together at the end of the season, after 3.5 years when Marriotta was benched and Tannehill started? and can you point us to the games where they lost because of dropped passes and why is it that now there are no dropped passes?

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 17, 2020

kskboys said:
Huh? You make less and less sense.

I have watched both Keenum and Mariota many times. They are both terrible. What's funny is that you accuse others of not watching them, when it's blatantly obvious that you have not!!!!!!

he had one more drink so less sense...there is a direct ratio of drinks to stupidity with this guy

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Wow.
What an intelligent post that has nothing to do with the subject.
So, I assume you think Dak-despite the fact that he choked when things got tough and cost the Cowboys the division title- is the best deal for the Cowboys, even if they have to pay him top money?
That's what the thread is about.
I think the Cowboys can do better if Dak is going to cost a multi-year deal at $30-35 million per year.
I would sure hate to know the Cowboys put that much of their salary cap into a guy that hasn't played good against the tougher teams.

Let's face it: Dak is a holdover from Jason Garrett. Garrett chose him and abandoned Romo-after wasting Romo's entire career- and Jason thought Dak would make all of his dreams come true.
But Dak was like Garrett in the fact that he never had to earn his spot. He never learned to face pressure, and was forgiven when he would choke.
Then Dak was made team Captain in just his second season, further inflating his ego and further ignoring the fact that he had not achieved anything.
So this season, when things got tough, Dak seemed to have no problem just sitting back and waiting for someone else to lead the Cowboys. He quit on the team and let the season disappear.
Why? Because he has never had to earn anything.
He doesn't understand that it was his responsibility to make the Cowboys better.
So, yeah; if the Cowboys are going to have vhf to pay top dollar, they can do better than Dak.

so you just spoke from both sides of your mouth.

you criticized garrett, even mentioned he wasted Romo's career, yet you criticized Dak….who played for garrett.

second you mentioned Dak didn't earn his spot. so the top 2 QBs on the team get injured. he was 3rd on the team at the time, and he just goes on a 13-3 winning streak....that's not earning it? btw, a HOF QB named Kurt Warner who won a superbowl started on the bench and only got to play when the starting QB got injured...hmmmm

I wait for you to untie your shorts before responding LOL

CowboysFaninHouston · Jan 17, 2020

hambone63 said:
The Ranch lives!!! Tell these guys how great a QB helen Moore was Lee!

LOL. I am glad you remember. it was comical. his argument that Kellen Moore is better than Romo and Kellen Moore is HOF type QB....

this guy just wants attention. he always always always always picks a topic he knows is not going to change for a while. and he argues it to no end to get a response....he just likes negative attention.

jazzcat22 · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Cam Newton is going to be available. He would be amazing in Dallas.
I'd rather see Dallas get Cam than pay big money for Dak.

Case Keenum is available. He led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game. He is a better deal than Dak.

Marcus Mariota will be available. He would be better.

Tom Brady will probably be available.

And more.
As I said, I will back Dak if they sign him.
But there are much better options.

Are you related to Pappydog (who I now have on ignore).
You two should go start your own Dak hate forum.
You are at troll level with everyone of your threads which now, you are trying to disguise. But they are still hate on Dak threads.
FAILED again.

OmerV · Jan 17, 2020

leeblair said:
Yet Case Keenum-not Dak Prescott- has led his team to an NFC Championship game.
Dak has proven repeatedly that he will flounder against real competition.
And Mariota is a victim of timing; the Titans got their act together towards the end of the season, but Mariota had led them to what should have been wins and lost due to dropped passes and missed field goals.
The Cowboys lost because Dak missed wide open receivers and threw the ball into the ground.
You may not have watched Keenum or Mariota, but you have seen Dak Prescott choke repeatedly in big games.

No, the NFL's best defense led that team to the NFC championship game, where they lost miserably, although admittedly Keenum had a strong game in the division round of the playoffs. But it was the defense that carried them through the season. By the way, I find it interesting that you are willing to ignore Keenum's entire career except that one season where he fell into just the right situation.

As for Mariota, you are telling us the receivers sucked when he played QB, but suddenly improved when Tannehill did? That's your explanation for Mariota getting benched and Tannehill having more success?

Reverend Conehead · Jan 17, 2020

THEHEREAFTER said:
Cam and Keenum suck btw. This is just getting embarrassing.

Neither of them suck. Whether either would be better for the team than Dak is certainly debatable, but these guys are't scrubs.

OmerV · Jan 17, 2020

Reverend Conehead said:
Neither of them suck. Whether either would be better for the team than Dak is certainly debatable, but these guys are't scrubs.

That poster was yet another example of posters only being able to see things in extremes.

If the Cowboys are going to pay top dollar for a quarterback there are better options

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