Cowboys should not move up and get bpa

kskboys · Jan 23, 2020

Verdict said:
If you take BPA you end up with Zack Martin. If not you end up with a Soft Taco. BPA is the way to go.

Taco was BPA.

kskboys · Jan 23, 2020

Verdict said:
When you reach you overdraft by definition. That’s a losing proposition any way you slice it.

Absolutely. Using either BPA or Need as a standalone draft strategy is beyond foolish.

kskboys · Jan 23, 2020

Verdict said:
Aaron Rodgers fell way down in the draft that year and that was not anticipated. I’m talking about moving up for a top talent that free falls for some odd reason. That’s about the only reason I would move up.

He was mostly not considered a top talent at the time. Using hindsight doesn't make sense when looking for a draft strategy.

Verdict · Jan 23, 2020

kskboys said:
He was mostly not considered a top talent at the time. Using hindsight doesn't make sense when looking for a draft strategy.

Yes. He was. That’s why he was invited and was in the green room.

kskboys · Jan 23, 2020

Verdict said:
Yes. He was. That’s why he was invited and was in the green room.

1st round talent, but not top of the draft talent.

Verdict · Jan 24, 2020

kskboys said:
1st round talent, but not top of the draft talent.

I don’t think that’s accurate. They thought he was going early (which is why he was invited in the first place). His free fall was so drastic they escorted him off to the side so that he wouldn’t be under the microscope until he was drafted.

My3Sons · Jan 24, 2020

kskboys said:
Taco was BPA.

Actually TJ Watt was. The Cowboys screwed the pooch.

kskboys · Jan 24, 2020

DeStorm said:
Actually TJ Watt was. The Cowboys screwed the pooch.

No, he wasn't. Taco was mostly rated higher. TJ was rated in the 2nd round from what I saw.

kskboys · Jan 24, 2020

Verdict said:
I don’t think that’s accurate. They thought he was going early (which is why he was invited in the first place). His free fall was so drastic they escorted him off to the side so that he wouldn’t be under the microscope until he was drafted.

Very early on, he was rated higher. As the draft got closer, he dropped and dropped. Most had Alex Smith rated higher.

Chuck 54 · Jan 25, 2020

I believe in BPA, but if you see a stud, one of the top 2 DTs, DE’s, etc., and he will walk in as a starter and make everyone on defense better because he’s a blue chip player and the drop off at a position of need is drastic, there’s nothing wrong with giving up a 2nd or 3rd round pick to go get him. Sometimes the 1 is better than 2.

glimmerman · Jan 25, 2020

BPA in position of need. DT and or Safety. Likey DT in first round and Safety in the second.

big dog cowboy · Jan 25, 2020

shabazz said:
.......moving up from 27th to 10th seemed to work out pretty good for Kansas City. They gave up a 1st and a 3rd for a REAL franchise Qb

If you trade up for an impact player and hit, you look like a genius. If you miss, you get fired. There have been a lot more misses than hits from teams moving up for a QB.

big dog cowboy · Jan 25, 2020

DeStorm said:
Actually TJ Watt was. The Cowboys screwed the pooch.

https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2017/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...d-mock-includes-15-trades-seven-quarterbacks/

http://www.***USER-BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1***/draft2017_1.php

The first 3 I looked up all had Taco project to be drafted much higher than TJ.

shabazz · Jan 25, 2020

big dog cowboy said:
If you trade up for an impact player and hit, you look like a genius. If you miss, you get fired. There have been a lot more misses than hits from teams moving up for a QB.

True, but staying safe and conservative breeds mediocrity and hasn’t worked in the last quarter Century

Jfconrow · Jan 25, 2020

Trade down

CCBoy · Jan 26, 2020

I would pay what future picks necessary to move and take LSU's highly reactive defensive end...and then a strong defensive tackle in round two.

Ranched · Jan 26, 2020

visionary said:
I agree but to do this they will NEED to be aggressive in FA this year

we need 2 starting DTs, 1 (maybe 2) starting safeties and a difference making starter at TE. These players need to be difference makers not fillers
to do this, Cooper and Jones will walk and I’m fine with that
if we do this then we can let the board come to us

Don't be too sure about that. They do have $100 million cap space. That said, I see Coop staying for sure. Jones could be ify being his play progressed immensely which automatically raised his salary.

kskboys · Jan 26, 2020

big dog cowboy said:
https://www.draftsite.com/nfl/mock-draft/2017/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...d-mock-includes-15-trades-seven-quarterbacks/

http://www.***USER-BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1***/draft2017_1.php

The first 3 I looked up all had Taco project to be drafted much higher than TJ.

Hey, you quit knocking people's agenda driven stuff. It is just mean!!!!!

stilltheguru · Jan 26, 2020

The problem is I dont think they will actually draft the best player. See Taco, Hill. They try to convince themselves on certain people.

OmerV · Jan 27, 2020

cowboy_ron said:
We're really not in the position to take the true BPA, we have to draft the BPA at a position of need.

I think that's really what BPA comes down to anyway, at least in the early rounds. After all, if a team already has Pat Mahomes, and when their pick comes up in the 1st round the true BPA is a QB, they aren't going to draft a QB.

Later in the draft is probably different though. 5th through 7th round they are just looking for players who can play well at the NFL level, so they may take a player that doesn't play a position of need to increase the chances of getting a player who can play at that level.

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