Should we remain with Jarwin or get a new featured TE

FuzzyLumpkins said:

If a TE is BPA with the first 3 picks you pick him.

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I like this approach. Watching Kittle’s game makes me realize how long it has been since we have had truly elite TE play.

I love Witt. He has been consistent and steady, but his speed has been gone for several years, and his blocking is not even adequate anymore.

Kittle can do it all and is a true weapon on the field. Jarwin can make plays in the passing game— but we could really use a complete TE and I would love to see us add one in the draft.

We see around the league, that the best offenses have that mismatch, receiving TE that opens up their entire offense. Is Jarwin that type of player? We truly don't know, but with the lack of meaningful snaps from the prior staff, even before last year, suggests he isn't. The offense has it's struggles finishing drives and scoring down in the redzone. You would think adding a dynamic TE could take this offense to the next level. I'm all over keeping Jarwin and giving him meaningful snaps, but would like to add a true #1 elite TE to play with him.

Tabascocat said:

Keep him as the 2nd but go get a playmaking TE.

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Yeah, because 20 yard gains or TDs on most of his catches don't help.

Give him time with the #1 team and get to it. Of course, if another TE fills the void and surpasses him. That works too.

FuzzyLumpkins said:

If a TE is BPA with the first 3 picks you pick him.

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If we take a TE in the 1st, we are indeed the stupidest team in the NFL.

Wasn't it between Rico gathers and Jarwin to get into the #2 team ?

kskboys said:

If we take a TE in the 1st, we are indeed the stupidest team in the NFL.

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Yep , thats got Jerrah Jones written all over it .

I think Al Davis selected a Kicker in the 1st ? ... idk .

Hawkeye0202 said:

Agree 100%......not sure what more he can do. Sure he's not the blocking TE you'd like but neither is 80% of NFL starting TEs. Remember Martellius Bennett saying he couldn't block worth a crap his first couple years in the league but it quickly became apparent to him playing behind Witten, that's the only way he was going to get on the field. So it's something focus and worked on. My point, I'm sure Jarwin can become a much better blocking TE coach him up. Just me, but he has the potential to be right there with the top 10 TEs in the league ( speed, huge hands, wide catch range, leaping ability). Just think this may be one of those cases where we could very have the best guy if we work with him and give him a chance.

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Some guys are not big blockers - I don’t think Jay Novachek was a big blocker and was more of a position shielder
That previous coaching staff were prominent on what that Garrett preference in the offense has been doing for years and saw Jarwin’s blocking as too much of a minus.

By Garrett’s standard, Jarwin needed to be Hanna or Swaim if he wanted to take more to the 2 TE package, and if he wasn’t, he have to take less snaps on the field and be more played in spots and occasions

The Witten return was a huge setback for Jarwin in the number of reps and snaps, imo. The minute he arrived back, I knew the supposed " 20% snaps " that was being generated in speculation, was never gonna happen with the competitive Witten, ..and with Garrett way too set in his own way, he was not gonna stand in Witten’s way, and didn’t want to coach around him or be without him.

There’s no telling how many plays were left off the field and could have played a factor with the more athletic Jarwin in. And it wasn’t that Jarwin was so special, but more so the decline of Witten
was such that he couldn’t make certain big plays
That was being needed from the lead TE role. And more so than this sporadic spots and occasions.

conner01 said:

We have so many holes you have to keep Jarwin
If an opportunity arises we can draft on at some point but we have huge holes on Dline and secondary that have to be addressed
We could look FA if the right kind of deal became availible

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Agreed. Or if an opportunity to get an OJ Howard away from Tampa on the cheap. They seem to not really know how to use him.

Maybe Howard can be a Jermichael Finely for this team and coach M.

Blakay can make the plays down the field, the question is can he block well enough?
But you have to keep him and hope he can learn, quickly
or use the FB to block more and run more routes

Can't fill all the needs and while he's not great, he could be good enough.

The question is did Witten's presence take reps from him or was it Witten's relationship with the owner and HC. I saw enough of him at OU and with his limited reps with DAL that he's a better playmaker than Witten. Better blocker? Don't know about that.

conner01 said:

I think you can but you can’t use a premium pick on a TE with the major holes we have on defense
We have 2 TE so we will have to add a 3rd for sure
We we have about the same number of DT and CB and you use more of them

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But I believe you have to stick to the value of your draft board.
If TE is being targeted as a priority among your draft plans and a particular TE is that much graded and rated and regarded, in according to the value of your draft board
then I believe that you have to take him, rather than bypassing him just for the sake of drafting a safety or a CB.
If that TE is just that much far head and shoulders in our graded draft system, then you take him, imo.

Hook'em#11 said:

Yeah, because 20 yard gains or TDs on most of his catches don't help.

Give him time with the #1 team and get to it. Of course, if another TE fills the void and surpasses him. That works too.

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You’re right, what was I thinking......we have our very own Kittle here

I never said Jarwin is trash or anything and he does make some plays. But, if Dallas can get their hands on a dynamic TE that forces defenses to focus on.....you get him.

quickccc said:

But I believe you have to stick to the value of your draft board.
If TE is being targeted as a priority among your draft plans and a particular TE is that much graded and rated and regarded, in according to the value of your draft board
then I believe that you have to take him, rather than bypassing him just for the sake of drafting a safety or a CB.
If that TE is just that much far head and shoulders in our graded draft system, then you take him, imo.

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At some point we could add a TE
But I don’t think this is a particularly talented TE group compared to past couple years
Some good but not great prospects
But you never know who can develop

quickccc said:

Past tight end players seemed to be well utilized and work terrific under McCarthy in GB, such as Jared Cook, Jimmy Graham. So that tells that the TE will indeed play a big significant in this offense.

And very strongly assuming this is the end of the road for the GOAT Jason Witten and we can finally get that speed and big play ability that affects the entire field, is there anyone that are sold on holdover TE Blake Jarwin as the starting featured TE here ?

Or should we strongly consider that new featured TE in this upcoming draft ?
Not sure if there's anyone that is worth investing in FA market at the TE position.

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Jarwin is NOT a feature TE. HE is a WR. We either need a complete TE and a blocking TE or two blocking TE's.

CalPolyTechnique said:

It’s hilarious to me that people opine that Jarwin is “decent....nothing special” and then treat what Witten gave us was something special.

Jarwin is a playmaker.

I like the idea of bringing in another TE ala what the Eagles have going with Ertz and Goedert. Make no mistake thought, Jarwin should definitely be getting more playing time.

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Austin Hooper or Enron

FuzzyLumpkins said:

If a TE is BPA with the first 3 picks you pick him.

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Who do you like in that 2nd or 3rd round range? I'm thinking we get a stopgap veteran and draft a developmental project also.

CalPolyTechnique said:

I like the idea of bringing in another TE ala what the Eagles have going with Ertz and Goedert.

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You like the idea of Dallas having the best TE in the game along with a 2nd round pick at the position. Groundbreaking stuff, thanks for sharing.

conner01 said:

But I don’t think this is a particularly talented TE group compared to past couple years

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I like the idea of a physically talented project in the 3rd or 4th round to go with a veteran FA. I like Jarwin but I think he would get exposed if he was asked to block every play. He also wouldn't be the gimmick play, he would draw more attention from defenses.

conner01 said:

I think you can but you can’t use a premium pick on a TE with the major holes we have on defense
We have 2 TE so we will have to add a 3rd for sure
We we have about the same number of DT and CB and you use more of them

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We can get a quality TE through FA as well. There's no way we can fill all our holes through the draft.

We MUST find a go-to TE in FA or early in the draft. Jarwin has shown signs, but can we trust him as a full time player?
Every QB needs a good TE, a go to guy to move the chains. If we go with Jarwin, then go out and find a big possession WR.