Is the 2020 season a complete rebuild or just a tweak?

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This was a roster touted by our leadership, analysts and fans talented enough to contend for the Super Bowl and why coaching change was made.
 

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Let me say first I’m for signing Dak Prescott as opposed to tagging him. He’s not in the elite category of Mahomes, Wilson and Rogers but he’s certainly good enough to win with. IMO, too many people on this forum seem to believe all we have to do is go pick the “QB tree” and instantly have a better QB.

However....this thread is NOT just about the Dak dilemma...it’s about the makeup of the whole team. It’s about a fundamental question that hangs over this offseason: Is this a rebuild year or a year we just need to tweak the roster for a SB run?

The biggest clue we have about this question regarding how the Jones FO feels is probably found in the new head coach they just hired. The hiring of Mike McCarthy is a clear signal that this FO is in “Win Now” mode as opposed to rebuild.

In fact here are the indicators for a “win now” mentality:
  • The hiring of McCarthy- he’s not a rebuild type coach and I doubt he would have taken this job if he knew this team was going to start over at QB.
  • The cap space already committed to Zeke, the OL, DLaw and Jaylon S indicates they want to have those guys be their nucleus. Theta,ent they have acquired since 2013-16 is now mostly in their prime but not for much longer.
  • If Jerry seriously wants to win another championship before the grim reaper knocks, he probably is not excited about a big roster rebuild in a search for a new QB.
Here’s what I expect to happen this offseason that will indicate the “win now” philosophy:
  • Sign Dak as opposed to tagging him. If they are still not sure about him, they should have traded him. Tagging him will create a negative vibe similar to the Kirk Cousins thing in DC a couple of years ago.
  • High draft capital spent this year on defense. Especially at S, DT and maybe CB.
  • High expectations from MM to get tougher mentally and physically. This team has been soft for too long. If we want to make serious run, MM should be instilling some of that Jimmy Johnson “asthma field” mentality.
The offseason so far points to a win now mode as opposed to starting over in a new QB search. Going to be another interesting offseason.

JJ: tweak, because we are contenders
all others know: rebuild
 

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Overall a tweak but they have a ton to do on D and ST. Defense you can see 2 or 3 new starters on the DL. I also think you can see 2 new starters at S. STs was a disaster. I expect a new P, K and many new phases across the sub groups. I agree that this is still a good roster and 10 plus wins should be the benchmark. Garrett was a minus 2-3 win coach nearly his entire tenure. Guy sucked. Long live the Mike McCarthy era!!

Of course Dak's situation becoming a goat rodeo could ruin everything.
IMHO, if they can find a productive starter at S or DT, the improvement will be dramatic to the defense. Hit on a couple of good draft picks to bolster STs, perhaps that FG kicker can continue his streak and throw in a new coaching staff and we got us a team.
 

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We had the #1 offense and top 10 defense. This isn’t a rebuild.

We fired our coaching staff because the general consensus they under achieved as most set reaching the championship game as the expectation.
 

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Hiring McCarthy (and the comments about how hiring a college coach means you have to wait for them to learn, indicating a general unwillingness to wait and build to the desired results regardless of hiring a collegiate coach or not) means Jerry doesn't think of rebuilding as an option.

Of course, if everything blows up in a horrific way, maybe somebody gets in his ear and talks him into pivoting into a rebuild.

It's not unthinkable that we could have an insane, epic bad season coming up. Here's hoping that if it happens, it happens early enough for us to make use of the trade deadline to acquire future draft picks and shed players/contracts we don't think will be useful pieces to us in a few years when we should be nearing the end of the rebuild.
 

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I think just semi build. Think it should be done in about 2 or 3 years
 

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Sounds like we expected Garrett to take this roster to a championship game but not McCarthy?
 

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This defense needs somewhat of an overhaul. The only players from this year on the starting 11 should be LVE,Smith,DLaw ,Awzuzi (only because hes under contract),Woods and Jones if they can keep him. Id like to keep Quinn but numbers may pinch him out. Antwan should come off the bench, Lewis perhaps can be a starter.

first 3 picks should be DT and Safety and corner or LB. FA would be could to pick up some better defensive talent on the line. Is Gregory done?

Just tweaks on offense we need some depth on the O-line and I hope Cobb returns without the dropsies
So I notice Jaylon Smith absent from your list above.

Another black hole we need to add?
 

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Let me say first I’m for signing Dak Prescott as opposed to tagging him. He’s not in the elite category of Mahomes, Wilson and Rogers but he’s certainly good enough to win with. IMO, too many people on this forum seem to believe all we have to do is go pick the “QB tree” and instantly have a better QB.

However....this thread is NOT just about the Dak dilemma...it’s about the makeup of the whole team. It’s about a fundamental question that hangs over this offseason: Is this a rebuild year or a year we just need to tweak the roster for a SB run?

The biggest clue we have about this question regarding how the Jones FO feels is probably found in the new head coach they just hired. The hiring of Mike McCarthy is a clear signal that this FO is in “Win Now” mode as opposed to rebuild.

In fact here are the indicators for a “win now” mentality:
  • The hiring of McCarthy- he’s not a rebuild type coach and I doubt he would have taken this job if he knew this team was going to start over at QB.
  • The cap space already committed to Zeke, the OL, DLaw and Jaylon S indicates they want to have those guys be their nucleus. Theta,ent they have acquired since 2013-16 is now mostly in their prime but not for much longer.
  • If Jerry seriously wants to win another championship before the grim reaper knocks, he probably is not excited about a big roster rebuild in a search for a new QB.
Here’s what I expect to happen this offseason that will indicate the “win now” philosophy:
  • Sign Dak as opposed to tagging him. If they are still not sure about him, they should have traded him. Tagging him will create a negative vibe similar to the Kirk Cousins thing in DC a couple of years ago.
  • High draft capital spent this year on defense. Especially at S, DT and maybe CB.
  • High expectations from MM to get tougher mentally and physically. This team has been soft for too long. If we want to make serious run, MM should be instilling some of that Jimmy Johnson “asthma field” mentality.
The offseason so far points to a win now mode as opposed to starting over in a new QB search. Going to be another interesting offseason.

You know you're going to trigger some folks with the R-word, as if it matters. :muttley:

2020 is the 25th season since the Cowboys won something more than a divisional title. Tweak, rebuild, call it whatever you like, it's all about results.
 

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I say tweak as long as we dont lose too many players in free agency. The talent is already here. We grab a safety and 1 or 2 d linemen that contribute and we are rolling...

But we stand to lose a lot of players potentially and that would hurt us bad
 

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Should be a complete rebuild, but they'll sell that we're contenders and not do the right thing.
 

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Sounds like we expected Garrett to take this roster to a championship game but not McCarthy?
McCarthy doesn’t get the same roster Garrett had. We have to re-sign a ton of guys just to get close to the same.
 

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You know you're going to trigger some folks with the R-word, as if it matters. :muttley:

2020 is the 25th season since the Cowboys won something more than a divisional title. Tweak, rebuild, call it whatever you like, it's all about results.
This coaching hire was to win now not rebuild.
 

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Let me say first I’m for signing Dak Prescott as opposed to tagging him. He’s not in the elite category of Mahomes, Wilson and Rogers but he’s certainly good enough to win with. IMO, too many people on this forum seem to believe all we have to do is go pick the “QB tree” and instantly have a better QB.

However....this thread is NOT just about the Dak dilemma...it’s about the makeup of the whole team. It’s about a fundamental question that hangs over this offseason: Is this a rebuild year or a year we just need to tweak the roster for a SB run?

The biggest clue we have about this question regarding how the Jones FO feels is probably found in the new head coach they just hired. The hiring of Mike McCarthy is a clear signal that this FO is in “Win Now” mode as opposed to rebuild.

In fact here are the indicators for a “win now” mentality:
  • The hiring of McCarthy- he’s not a rebuild type coach and I doubt he would have taken this job if he knew this team was going to start over at QB.
  • The cap space already committed to Zeke, the OL, DLaw and Jaylon S indicates they want to have those guys be their nucleus. Theta,ent they have acquired since 2013-16 is now mostly in their prime but not for much longer.
  • If Jerry seriously wants to win another championship before the grim reaper knocks, he probably is not excited about a big roster rebuild in a search for a new QB.
Here’s what I expect to happen this offseason that will indicate the “win now” philosophy:
  • Sign Dak as opposed to tagging him. If they are still not sure about him, they should have traded him. Tagging him will create a negative vibe similar to the Kirk Cousins thing in DC a couple of years ago.
  • High draft capital spent this year on defense. Especially at S, DT and maybe CB.
  • High expectations from MM to get tougher mentally and physically. This team has been soft for too long. If we want to make serious run, MM should be instilling some of that Jimmy Johnson “asthma field” mentality.
The offseason so far points to a win now mode as opposed to starting over in a new QB search. Going to be another interesting offseason.

Great post. It’s clearly not a rebuild

All we really need to ask ourselves is “who is the owner and GM”

jerry would be in win now mode if we were 5-11
 

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The 49ers kicking game was horrible this year. Gould was like 74%.

The Chiefs are better in the return game because they actually draft talent. Their return game is just a product of Hardman, not coaching, scheme, culture or whatever else people want to attribute to it.
What about their coverage teams? They were great at that aspect of the game and it went a long way toward the outcome. It was the most important part of the ST battles and both teams were good at it. That’s all about coaching, scheme and culture.
 

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We had the #1 offense and top 10 defense. This isn’t a rebuild.

We fired our coaching staff because the general consensus they under achieved as most set reaching the championship game as the expectation.

Mae also underachieved if the bar was making the playoffs or even having a winning record

we underachieved by any measurement
 

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Sounds like we expected Garrett to take this roster to a championship game but not McCarthy?
As I mentioned in the previous post, Garret’s team was a failure by any reasonable standard. We all hoped for a deep playoff run but what we got was just awful. He’s certainly not the only one to blame but he’s the HC and had ten years to achieve playoff success and never came close.

MTO expect a new HC, any HC, to come in and have the bar of failure be anything less than the NFC championship game is unrealistic

I’d be happy with 10 wins, a division title and a playoff win. Anything beyond that would be really cool but I don’t think it’s necessarily a realistic expectation
 

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As I mentioned in the previous post, Garret’s team was a failure by any reasonable standard. We all hoped for a deep playoff run but what we got was just awful. He’s certainly not the only one to blame but he’s the HC and had ten years to achieve playoff success and never came close.

MTO expect a new HC, any HC, to come in and have the bar of failure be anything less than the NFC championship game is unrealistic

I’d be happy with 10 wins, a division title and a playoff win. Anything beyond that would be really cool but I don’t think it’s necessarily a realistic expectation
The bar should be at least the same for all of our HC.
 

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The bar should be at least the same for all of our HC.
You don’t adjust your expectations based on the situation?

Did you have that same expectation of Garrett?

If so, you just be really satisfied with the decision to let him go and be 100% on board with the decision to hire a new coach.
 
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