07' Draft Picks 7/8 through the season

[Hostile]

Incomplete but yet a probable bust?

What the hell kind of assessment is that? You don't have a clue about his potential or limited performance to say "incomplete" and yet, probable bust?

This is why you are treated as a clown on here.

One that doesn't even try to hide a stupid agenda.

 

[mmohican29]

Spencer- Already solid when in the lineup. Has really played the run much better than expected. Needs to add a pass rushing move or two, not quite the lean to be elite.

Marten- Injured, played decently in preseason. BC guys tend to come on in their second and third years when their strength gets to pro-level to match their polished footwork. Give him one more year before breaking out the bust tag.

Stanback- Still a mystery. Has flashed, but so should all draft choices at some point. Good physical attributes make him a good project, but the team's patience may run out before he takes off. I predict he will one day be a known player in the league, but not as a Cowboy.

Free- Injured, but really impressed right from the get go. Mean streak, good strength. Will start in near future, and has pro-bowl ability. Long-term Cowboy, this is a great pick.

Folk- as close to a difference making kicker as there can be in a draft choice, will be a Cowboy for a long time if he keeps a decent price. All-Pro.

Anderson- I like him alot, FB's are pretty interchangeable but he's a quality back... good hands and good vision, and understands the passing game. Needs to work on lead-blocking but the potential is clearly there. A really good special-teamer who would land a roster spot on most squads in the NFL.
He's Lou Polite ++, and i kinda liked Lou in his stint here. I think Hoyte's wayyy overrated (hands are god-awful and can't carry the rock at all)


Brown- I think he has physcial ability but I doubt it will ever translate on the field in a starting role. Has a chance at safety, but would anyone really feel comfortable with him out there? For that matter, is anyone really comfortable with Roy and Keith out there? This is a draft '08 need, and I wouldn't fish further than the 3rd Rd'er to target a guy.

Ball? Who knows. I'm glad everyone else has great expectations for a guy that didn't make the 53.

I give the draft as whole (based on production) a C+, with potential to be one day a B. Not bad at all really.

 

[theogt]

Stanback- Still a mystery. Has flashed, but so should all draft choices at some point. Good physical attributes make him a good project, but the team's patience may run out before he takes off. I predict he will one day be a known player in the league, but not as a Cowboy.

That's an interesting take considering we drafted him relatively high knowing he was making a position change and wouldn't be able to get a look at him in his first training camp given he was injured when we drafted him.

 

[eduncan22]

That's an interesting take considering we drafted him relatively high knowing he was making a position change and wouldn't be able to get a look at him in his first training camp given he was injured when we drafted him.

He's not hurt anymore.

He's still not playing.

 

[theogt]

He's not hurt anymore.

He's still not playing.

The point was that he wasn't able to get work in training camp and that set him behind, essentially completely writing off this year (particularly after he suffered the shoulder injury mid-season).

If he spends all of next year on the inactive list, then you can call him a bust. Until then, all it does is get you laughed at.

 

[03EBZ06]

No need to get emotional about it.

I'll try to clarify this for you.

When you are a top 100 draftee..and you can't make the active list...

If this continues into next season....

Then you can say he is a bust...not a probable bust.


The Cowboys are going to need to draft a WR next season, even though they already drafted Stanback.

I'm far from being emotional about your idiotic assessment.

So with your twisted logic, Marten and Free should be considered as the "probably bust" catagory, right? After all, either one of them can make the active list.

Any person with a bit of football intelligence can see that a fourth rounder who was selected as a project is far from being a "probably bust" catagory in first season, unless you are simply biased against that player.

Please do this world a favor and don't have children.

 

[eduncan22]

I'm far from being emotional about your idiotic assessment.

So with your twisted logic, Marten and Free should be considered as the "probably bust" catagory, right? After all, either one of them can make the active list.

Any person with a bit of football intelligence can see that a fourth rounder who was selected as a project is far from being a "probably bust" catagory in first season, unless you are simply biased against that player.

Please do this world a favor and don't have children.

You feel better?

"Stanback" can't even make the Special Teams squad [where his "speed" would be a benefit to this team.]

If the kid was playing, I'm sure it would be a different story.

According to your words...

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1689790&postcount=3

I really don't understand all these threads about Stanback. He is a rookie, the season is 4 games young, give him time to develop and see how he performs on the field before stating he is a hit or a miss.

Well...it's been 14 games....

 

[lkelly]

Not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread yet, but to fully evaluate the 2007 draft you have to also consider whatever player we get with the Browns' pick in April. A starting caliber player if they play their cards right...

 

[Natedawg44]

Well I don't know if he'd make a great backup, I'm sort of in favor of veteran backups myself. No one knew or knows what Moore is capable of, so I'm not sure I see it.

Maybe he could have been trade fodder, sure, but he wouldn't have earned any value sitting on the bench behind Romo anyway, the only reason he's even on the map now is because he's playing due to injuries on the Panthers, that wouldn't be the case here.

How many people would have traded for Derek Anderson before this season from the Browns? No one.

Wrong you can accumulate value for your team sitting on the bench.

Matt Hassleback

 

[TheCount]

Wrong you can accumulate value for your team sitting on the bench.

Matt Hassleback

Yes, way to name one guy. I could name you many more that sat on a bench their entire careers.

 

[Natedawg44]

A couple of solid preseasons, some leaks to the media from the coaching staff and someone is going to give you something for him with the horrible QB play in this league, BECAUSE he is unknown. I don't mind veteran backups either, but I like them to be able to throw farther than Chad Pennington and not be here just to collect a pension. I don't think Justin Rogers roster spot has been a vital value addition to our team that Moore would have been.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

What do you think of our Draft picks now that the 07' regular season is almost complete.

Anthony Spencer
James Marten
Isaiah Stanback
Doug Free
Nick Folk
Deon Anderson
Courtney Brown
Alan Ball

One of the good things about Dallas' draft class is that they got a lot of playing time and produced, but it was for a very good team. Often times fans rave about draft classes who get a lot of playing time for terrible teams. In reality these guys wind up not being very good and because they team they played for was bad, they got more opportunities to shine. Dallas 2002 draft class was like this, although they did well with Gurode (who did take a few years before he could be labeled as a quality pick) and Roy.

I think Spencer has a lot of potential and could be really good. He plays the run well and moves very well in pass coverage. He also rushes the passer well. Now he can get in better physical shape and get more comfortable witht the speed of the game and the 3-4 scheme, he's going to be a good one. Ellis is doing well, but he's limited when it comes to covering. With Spencer, I potentially see a very well rounded OLB for the future.

Free showed some potential and is athletic. Marten didn't look good, but don't count out former Boston College O-Linemen given their success in the NFL. Stanback we'll probably get to see come the Commanders game. Nick Folk should only get better as they'll get him stronger and he'll become a better kickoff guy.

Deon Anderson came along really well and I like the combo of him and Hoyte at fullback. Anderson's run blocking early in the year was atrocious, but he improved it quite a bit in about a month's time.

Courtney Brown and Alan Ball haven't shown me anything.

Out of this, I'd say Dallas got 3 potential quality players/starters (Spencer, Anderson, Folk) and then some unknown commodities in Free, Marten, and Stanback.

Getting 3 key players/starters in a draft is pretty solid, so if that happens and they can get anything out of the others, this is a very good draft.



YAKUZA