'07 Pats vs. History's best

[dwmyers]

Parcell's gave the Pats the win over the Bradshaw Steelers already and said that of all the best teams, the Steelers had the best chance of winning though he'd still side with the Pats.

So watching any other of his matchups is pointless. If his team with the best shot of beating them in his mind wouldn't, then no team would.

The problem with any pre-1980 team is size. I'd like to think that 260 pound linemen would stand a chance against, oh, Vince Wilfork et al but really they don't. Watching the Manster, good as he was, get engulfed by the Hawgs of the middle 1980s was a lesson in physics; force is proportional to mass.

If however, you took away the years of steroi^W weight training the Pats have and make them play in 1970s rules then things change. I don't think Terry Bradshaw fares well in the current rules set. All too often he was engulfed by defenders who simply could not take him down and he'd wrist a TD 50 yards down field.

In the modern era he's sacked, even if he could shed the 240 pound pipsqueak knawing on his ankles.

David.

 

[The Panch]

^^^^^
Exactly. Late 80's to late 90's comparisons are far more accurate than simply going on how teams dominated their era as opposed to today.

 

[Hostile]

That's exactly what it reminds me of, two years ago when ESPN was asking if the 2005 USC team was the greatest team ever.

BTW, I've missed a couple of these segments? Has Parcells picked anyone other than the Pats?

No sir.

 

[satam55]

I was a little surprised they picked the '93 Boys over '92 and even the '96 team.




And yeah, I wouldnt mind seeing the underdog Texans doing what they do best. This Patriot talk is getting annoying by now. Everyone who isnt a complete Patriot groupie knows they should be 14-1 after that Ravens game. Hell, if the Colts knew how to close the show and Reggie Wayne was dropping 50 yard gainers, it would've been done. Granted, we've had our lucky finishes too, but we're not chasing "The Pursuit of Perfection".

The '93 Team was the best team, because of experience over the '92 team. But both Team would blow out the patriots, without a doubt. The '95 team by far was the worst, it's not even close. Heck the '92 and '93 49ers would beat the hell out patriots! (I'm not so sure about the '94 team) The those early 90's bills teams would beat the patriots.

 

[Punkabilly56]

How about the 2007 team?

 

[lurkercowboy]

The problem with any pre-1980 team is size. I'd like to think that 260 pound linemen would stand a chance against, oh, Vince Wilfork et al but really they don't. Watching the Manster, good as he was, get engulfed by the Hawgs of the middle 1980s was a lesson in physics; force is proportional to mass.

If however, you took away the years of steroi^W weight training the Pats have and make them play in 1970s rules then things change. I don't think Terry Bradshaw fares well in the current rules set. All too often he was engulfed by defenders who simply could not take him down and he'd wrist a TD 50 yards down field.

In the modern era he's sacked, even if he could shed the 240 pound pipsqueak knawing on his ankles.

David.

Good points, although Randy White made his share of plays against those Commander teams.

As far as the thread topic, my two cents is let's see if the Patriots can win a Super Bowl by more than three points before we start crowning them.

 

[Sarge]

This whole "series" has been about Bill Parcells kissing the 2007 New England Patriots rear ends. It has been nauseating at best.

He's already started his job with Miami - clearly.

 

[khiladi]

Hell, the 1991 Commanders could beat this years Patriots team. They allowed, what, 7 sacks the whole year, and the majority of those seven sacks in one game. That was one of the greatest OLs in history, if not greatest. They would be controlling the clock, and grinding the shady Patriots defense to smithereens. It would be a systematic butt whupping.

If Clyde Simmons never died in that accident, the Philadelphia Eagles of the 90s and 91 could beat that patriots team, simply because the defensive line would dominate and Brady wouldn't have time to throw the ball downfield. Moss would essentially become a non-factor, because he would not have enough time to run his deep routes.

The Ravens, with probably the greatest defense of all-time, could beat this Pats team. Their LB corp was dominant and could cover well, and this is usually where the Patriots expose other teams.

We don't even have to go to the Dallas 92' teams with their incredibly quick defensive LBs corp. The Dallas defense was extremely aggressive and it was impossible to run laterally on them, because of speed. The Patriots like to spread thother teams out, and take adavantage of their speed, but that would essentiall be counter-acted by the speed of the Dallas D. Plus, you would have Novacek abusing Harrison all day, and Aikman hitting him for plenty of first downs.

 

[windward]

Hell, the 1991 Commanders could beat this years Patriots team. They allowed, what, 7 sacks the whole year, and the majority of those seven sacks in one game. That was one of the greatest OLs in history, if not greatest. They would be controlling the clock, and grinding the shady Patriots defense to smithereens. It would be a systematic butt whupping.

If Clyde Simmons never died in that accident, the Philadelphia Eagles of the 90s and 91 could beat that patriots team, simply because the defensive line would dominate and Brady wouldn't have time to throw the ball downfield. Moss would essentially become a non-factor, because he would not have enough time to run his deep routes.

The Ravens, with probably the greatest defense of all-time, could beat this Pats team. Their LB corp was dominant and could cover well, and this is usually where the Patriots expose other teams.

We don't even have to go to the Dallas 92' teams with their incredibly quick defensive LBs corp. The Dallas defense was extremely aggressive and it was impossible to run laterally on them, because of speed. The Patriots like to spread thother teams out, and take adavantage of their speed, but that would essentiall be counter-acted by the speed of the Dallas D. Plus, you would have Novacek abusing Harrison all day, and Aikman hitting him for plenty of first downs.

That was Jerome Brown. Clyde Simmons is alive and well.

 

[khiladi]

That was Jerome Brown. Clyde Simmons is alive and well.

Good catch... Clyde Simmons Jerome Brown and Reggie White... the point still stands.. that was an amazing front-line...

 

[The Panch]

Bayless actually backing the '93 Boys surprised me.

 

[windward]

Bayless actually backing the '93 Boys surprised me.

He covered that team. Being that close up, even he would have to acknowledge that team's greatness

 

[StylisticS]

^^^^^
Exactly. Late 80's to late 90's comparisons are far more accurate than simply going on how teams dominated their era as opposed to today.

Exactly why I said that the era that we are in now and the era of the 90s Cowboys are not that much different as far as players on the field go. Salary Cap and Free agency plus the rules changed. But the players are the same size and they have the same speed.