10-7 game, 20+ degrees and we pass the ball 37 times

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should of been 38 times

3rd and 11, down by 3. Romo picks those up all the time. unfortunately we knew we had zero chance tonight and ran it.

Probably the most sickening call of the night. If you cant trust your QB to throw it there, why is he on the field?
 

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Dak was off target all night, unless they roll him out he would have just missed it. His passes were all over the place. Wet ball maybe?
he kept throwing off the wrong foot when he was moving. He has some mechanics issues that you really cannot address in season.
 

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Lazy and irresponsible to make claims based on the box score alone without context.

The passes called were within the flow of the game. Play calling was fairly even given circumstances.

What kind of math do they teach in Iowa??? How does 37 passes to 24 runs come out to even, fairly or otherwise?
 

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i think the play calling was fine. Dak and the passing game was awful for the second week in a row.

Dez slips, Williams has a ball go right though his hands, holding calls, interceptions and fumbles.

The turnovers are starting to come with Dak and that is the most concerning to me.
And the Giants had a lot of the same type of things...and yet...Manning served them up 3 turnovers and what could have been two or three more INTs...and yet...This was the most likely place turnovers would happen...cold night, slippery ball, and slippery field (which accounted for the INT on Bryant's slip in the first half). The second INT to Bryant probably should not have even been thrown, given the coverage.
 

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Elliott had more carries in the first three quarters tonight (20) than he had in any other game this season (he had never had more than 18, and he averaged only 13.25 over the previous four games). His rushing yardage through three quarters (108) was more than he had in any game except against Cincinnati (133), and he averaged only 59.25 over the previous four games.
 

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Elliott had more carries in the first three quarters tonight (20) than he had in any other game this season (he had never had more than 18, and he averaged only 13.25 over the previous four games). His rushing yardage through three quarters (108) was more than he had in any game except against Cincinnati (133), and he averaged only 59.25 over the previous four games.

And then they took him off the field on 3rd downs for Lance Dunbar.
 

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And then they took him off the field on 3rd downs for Lance Dunbar.

Thats what I don't get, whats the logic here?

I rewound the last four plays of the game and Zeke is not on the field for all four.

1st down: Dunbar in the backfield
2nd Down: Dunbar in the backfield, Zeke on the sideline next to Romo:

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3rd down: Dunbar in the backfield
4th Down: Dunbar and Witt in the backfield.

Was Zeke hurt or something?
 
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What kind of math do they teach in Iowa??? How does 37 passes to 24 runs come out to even, fairly or otherwise?
We got the ball at the end of the half with 32 seconds left and threw 4 straight passes.
At the end of the game, with limited time and time outs, we threw 7 straight passes.

In situations where there was at least some discretion in playcalling, then, we had 26 passes to 24 runs. Of course, the way the game played out, we faced an unusual number of 3rd-and-long situations. For instance, we had three 3rd-and-11 plays and passed on 2 of them. We also had 3rd-and-7, 3rd-and-9, 3rd-and-15, and so on. We converted none of them, meaning that we couldn't have a fresh set of downs and run some more.

We were running the ball a lot whenever we weren't in situations that demanded the pass.

Teams have their tendencies, but in football, the pass-run ratio is often completely controlled by the game situations.
 

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Thats what I don't get, whats the logic here?

I rewound the last four plays of the game and Zeke is not on the field for all four.

1st down: Dunbar in the backfield
2nd Down: Dunbar in the backfield, Zeke on the sideline next to Romo:

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3rd down: Dunbar in the backfield
4th Down: Dunbar and Witt in the backfield.

Was Zeke hurt or something?

He has his helmet on, so probably not hurt.
 

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What kind of math do they teach in Iowa??? How does 37 passes to 24 runs come out to even, fairly or otherwise?

Because it's not about the raw numbers, it's about situational circumstances.
 

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We got the ball at the end of the half with 32 seconds left and threw 4 straight passes.
At the end of the game, with limited time and time outs, we threw 7 straight passes.

In situations where there was at least some discretion in playcalling, then, we had 26 passes to 24 runs. Of course, the way the game played out, we faced an unusual number of 3rd-and-long situations. For instance, we had three 3rd-and-11 plays and passed on 2 of them. We also had 3rd-and-7, 3rd-and-9, 3rd-and-15, and so on. We converted none of them, meaning that we couldn't have a fresh set of downs and run some more.

We were running the ball a lot whenever we weren't in situations that demanded the pass.

Teams have their tendencies, but in football, the pass-run ratio is often completely controlled by the game situations.

There were multiple first and second downs that Cowboys chose pass rather than run, stop cherry picking stats so only showcasing pass only situations. The game was extremely close from start to finish so take your patronizing somewhere else. The coaches chose to pass more than run, even Garrett admitted to that.
 

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There were multiple first and second downs that Cowboys chose pass rather than run, stop cherry picking stats so only showcasing pass only situations. The game was extremely close from start to finish so take your patronizing somewhere else. The coaches chose to pass more than run, even Garrett admitted to that.
Sorry, but this makes no sense. There's no cherrypicking involved.

There are two kinds of situations: those where you can pass or run, and those where you must pass. Of course they chose pass rather than run on "multiple first and second downs", that's why the ratio was around 50-50 in those situations and not 100-0 run. We always mix it up in those situations: every team does. But if you want to see if the team was balanced or not, those are the situations you look at, not the pass-only situations. I just went through that exercise for you, and we were very balanced when we had the option.

(There are also run-only situations, when killing the clock at the end of the game. Those are why we often run more than we pass. But there were none of those plays tonight.)
 

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For the love of Pete, then don't call something even when it's obviously not.

In the context of the situations, they were practically even run/pass ratio. You can't include obvious passing situations as a potential run opportunity.
 

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Sorry, but this makes no sense. There's no cherrypicking involved.

There are two kinds of situations: those where you can pass or run, and those where you must pass. Of course they chose pass rather than run on "multiple first and second downs", that's why the ratio was around 50-50 in those situations and not 100-0 run. We always mix it up in those situations: every team does. But if you want to see if the team was balanced or not, those are the situations you look at, not the pass-only situations. I just went through that exercise for you, and we were very balanced when we had the option.

(There are also run-only situations, when killing the clock at the end of the game. Those are why we often run more than we pass. But there were none of those plays tonight.)


Is 3rd and 11 a must pass situation?
 
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In the context of the situations, they were practically even run/pass ratio. You can't include obvious passing situations as a potential run opportunity.

Can I count 3rd and 2 as obvious passing situation? Tonight it was called an INT.
 

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While Zeke looked effective on the stat sheet the running game was pretty uneven.

Yep. Zeke had 24 carries. 11 of them were for 3 yards or less. His 8 second half carries produced 19 yards, 13 of them coming on one play.

The result was too many 3rd and long situations.
 
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