10 Open Roster Spots?

[gjkoeppen]

The Cowboys need fewer but better players. 10 draft picks won't make the 53.

For example (I can't believe I have to go through this exercise) if there is someone in the mid 2nd the Cowboys want and have a high grade on, use the 50th pick and a 4th to go get him. The chances of finding an impact player in the 4th is very very low. In fact, the chances of them making the 53 and ever reaching starter status is low.

There are only so many FA's, draft picks and UDFA's that are going to make the team. Better players > more players. It's not that hard to figure out.

So you're saying to use multiple picks to fill ONE need thus leaving less picks to fill other needs. All of the Cowboys needs aren't for starters but for depth and this is where the picks that you want to use to get that one player come in where they can get a player that can develop a couple of years and then push a starter for a starting job. No team can or has drafted all their depth players that as a rookie they are expected to jump into a starters role and play like they were top 10 picks. Yes it does happen like Prescott in 2016, but no team has that kind of luck for EVERY depth position. Why - because most teams have mid to late round picks that are developing but you want to use them on a single player. (I didn't think I had to go through that exercise)

What you're saying is great if the Cowboys were only 1 or 2 players away from getting to the big dance but we all know that's not the case.
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[gjkoeppen]

You don't have to be a draft 'guru' or what ever that means for guys like Nelson, Chubb and DJames

Sometimes they fall because of a QB run or just plain Draft for Need by other teams

If guys like that get close don't hesitate to move up

Beyond superstars falling, I do think in general there is much better value in moving back

First most real GM's draft the best available and lean towards best available that fills a need. As I have said as well as others who have actually had jobs in the NFL when a player starts to slide more than just a couple slots during the draft that should put up some red flags that there are things those teams knew about the player that the general public doesn't and even some of those draft gurus. In other words there are reasons for the big slide other than a couple of teams jumping on QB's. That happen just about every year. Also if a player was rated that high prior to the draft (by those outside of actual teams) and they slide that doesn't mean they slid as far on teams board because they may not have had that player rated as high as those draft gurus did because they have some info that the draft gurus and the general public doesn't have. If these gurus gurus were so smart and so accurate then why before every pick they say the team will pick and list 3 - 4 players and then some times it's not any of them? The public just puts way to much rust in what these gurus say and all of their predraft mock drafts.
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[Pants]

the premise of the OP is all 10 draft picks making the team or not, right? they won't...but, have 10 spots to churn? sure, I can go with that, although the majority will be after spot 35 on the roster...an organization that knows what they are doing would fill some of these perceived holes via re-signing their own guys, plugging in a few FA's or GOD FORBID, making a trade for a player that can contribute right away....I would hope that they make legit moves prior to mid-April and maybe have 5 legit holes to fill via the draft....then you get 10 hungry young kids in here and let them compete for those spots, push the guys on the roster to be better...

Note: please, for the love of God, someone STOP the FO from saying to the media what they are planning to do....kills me every time one of them opens their mouth

 

[big dog cowboy]

So you're saying to use multiple picks to fill ONE need thus leaving less picks to fill other needs. All of the Cowboys needs aren't for starters but for depth and this is where the picks that you want to use to get that one player come in where they can get a player that can develop a couple of years and then push a starter for a starting job. No team can or has drafted all their depth players that as a rookie they are expected to jump into a starters role and play like they were top 10 picks. Yes it does happen like Prescott in 2016, but no team has that kind of luck for EVERY depth position. Why - because most teams have mid to late round picks that are developing but you want to use them on a single player. (I didn't think I had to go through that exercise)

What you're saying is great if the Cowboys were only 1 or 2 players away from getting to the big dance but we all know that's not the case.
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It takes 3 years before you can determine if a draft pick has panned out. That is universally accepted. So let's go back and look to see how the Cowboys are doing. Here are the Cowboys 5th round or later draft picks recently....

2015:
Ryan Russell
Mark Nzeocha
Laurence Gibson
Geoff Swaim

2014:
Devin Street
Ben Gardner
Will Smith
Ahmad Dixon
Ken Bishop
Terrance Mitchell

2013:
B. W. Webb
Joseph Randle
DeVonte Holloman

2012:
Danny Coale
James Hanna
Caleb McSurdy

I can play this game all day. How many of them are still on the 53? The proof is in the pudding. The way teams get better is to draft better players. Those are found earlier in the draft rather than later. The Cowboys don't need to use 5 picks on 5th, 6th and 7th round players this year. It's a complete waste of draft resources. It's not smart drafting.

 

[Nightman]

First most real GM's draft the best available and lean towards best available that fills a need. As I have said as well as others who have actually had jobs in the NFL when a player starts to slide more than just a couple slots during the draft that should put up some red flags that there are things those teams knew about the player that the general public doesn't and even some of those draft gurus. In other words there are reasons for the big slide other than a couple of teams jumping on QB's. That happen just about every year. Also if a player was rated that high prior to the draft (by those outside of actual teams) and they slide that doesn't mean they slid as far on teams board because they may not have had that player rated as high as those draft gurus did because they have some info that the draft gurus and the general public doesn't have. If these gurus gurus were so smart and so accurate then why before every pick they say the team will pick and list 3 - 4 players and then some times it's not any of them? The public just puts way to much rust in what these gurus say and all of their predraft mock drafts.
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Glad to know you are so dialed in to real GMs...... us in the general public are lucky to have you around

 

[gjkoeppen]

It takes 3 years before you can determine if a draft pick has panned out. That is universally accepted. So let's go back and look to see how the Cowboys are doing. Here are the Cowboys 5th round or later draft picks recently....

I can play this game all day. How many of them are still on the 53? The proof is in the pudding. The way teams get better is to draft better players. Those are found earlier in the draft rather than later. The Cowboys don't need to use 5 picks on 5th, 6th and 7th round players this year. It's a complete waste of draft resources. It's not smart drafting.

So all of the teams that have had Pro Bowlers, All Pro and even a couple of HOFers that were drafted from the 5th round on don't count. Just as long as the Cowboys use up picks that get that one player that him alone isn't going to take the Cowboys to the playoffs and isn't even a lock or guarantee of being the player he was projected to be during the draft. Because we all know, Well I can't say all because you haven't gotten it yet, but there have been busts and when you use additional picks to draft that bust you've just magnified the problem that much more. If who makes the 53 man squad is so preordained meaning mid and later round picks just aren't going to make it why doesn't the NFL limit the number of players they allow to come to camp the 53 man roster who are returning, the 10 practice squad members returning and draft picks and just say 70 players and not the 90 players that are allowed to come to camp? Why - because that gives the teams the ability to find that late round player or undrafted player who may become a Pro Bowler. If the Cowboys took the same view that you do on late round picks or undrafted players, guys like Romo, Beasley, or off the top of my head Drew Pearson wouldn't have been Cowboys. Heck there was a season when 3 out of the 4 starting defensive backfield were all undrafted starting with Everson Walls, Michael Downs, Benny Barnes and the 4th one Ron fellows as a 7th round pick.
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[gjkoeppen]

Glad to know you are so dialed in to real GMs...... us in the general public are lucky to have you around

It's easy when you LISTEN to guys who were NFL GM's that are announcers or analysts now and not rely on fans that play wannabe GM's.
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