105.7 The fan (Ravens- regarding Ray Lewis)

[YosemiteSam]

If you draft great, you don't have to sign huge FA contracts except to your young super stars. Old players should never get giant contracts. Not because they aren't worth it, but because you should have someone younger and capable behind them.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I am sure they'd love to keep him in Baltimore but it's going to be all about the money and how much Ray decides he's got to have to stay there. There is no doubt they're going to let him test the open market and find out what sort of ballpark they'd be playing in before they even attempt to resign him.

My gut feeling says they will find a way to keep him but that's probably just the fan in me that believes legendary players, for teams, should never play for another team.

Ray Lewis is the Baltimore Ravens and while I'd LOVE to have him in Dallas it would just seem so weird seeing him in any uniform other than that of the Ravens.

 

[jday]

hey guys, I came across The fan on the way home and they were discussing some comments that were made by Steve Bisciotti who is the ravens owner - I did not hear what he had to say but from what I gathered he is looking to emulate what the rooneys have done with the steelers and one thing they infered from that was not overpaying for their own free agents. Essentially they were saying that they did not feel as if Ray Lewis would be back in Baltimore. I know there is a contingent here that wants Lewis, I have also heard the reports indicating we would be interested. According to what I heard it does appear likely that he will at least hit the open market.

All Lewis lovers keep in mind he is more valuable to Baltimore because he's a leader there! We can't expect a player like that to come into the Cowboy's locker room and resume that role. It doesn't work that way. If anybody is going to be Ray Ray for the Cowboy's, it's D Ware or Bradie James.

 

[tyke1doe]

You sick fool :laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1:

That was out of character for me. I apologize. I just finished watching the "Chappelle/Wayne Brady" skit, and the phrase just popped in my mind.

My bad, forum authorities.

 

[HanD]

so what does that mean

we over pay for him?

we DONT need him again we do NOT need him

9 draft picks find someone in the draft

yes. why didn't anyone else think to just find a first ballot HOFer team leader and motivator, one of the best to ever play his position by way of having no first round draft pick in the draft....silly us. to even say to can find a ray lewis in a crap shoot draft is laughable.

is Ray Lewis at his age and his price going to be THAT much better than a young guy we draft? At 9-10mils a yr, lewis would be a monumental waste IMO...I'd rather resign Burnett than sign Lewis...plus there's the thug factor with him, he's a POS


That describes Lewis from a few yrs ago, not Lewis today. And certainly not Lewis next yr and two yrs from now etc etc.

you might have a point about value and worth...but if you think ray lewis wasn't dominant this year...you simply didn't watch any of his games. the guy was the best ILB (with maybe patrick willis) this year. he was playing just barely a notch below his hay day MVP years. and ray lewis at 90% of his hay day is better than 95% of ILBs and 75% of our starting LBs (OLB and ILB).

not saying i want to break the bank for him because he IS old now, but to deny he was anything short of great this year is delusional.

 

[Alexander]

The more this is talked about the less and less I like the idea.

Not because a leader like Lewis wouldn't help, but I have reservations how good he would be learning a new system (one he's not especially fond of and believes in) and especially if he would be worth the money he would command. The plus in the lockerroom would probably be cancelled out by the player we get on the field. That is pretty much what we got out of Thomas.

Also, do we really need another veteran secure with his future contract? The last thing we need is another fat cat who is playing out his final contract as a professional with this team. We have enough of those players as it is.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Who's Ed Werner?

Ed Weener doesn't have any comprehenshun problems.

 

[Future]

I think Lewis winds up in Baltimore. He won't leave Ed Reed.

They have a special thing there and they finally have a QB they believe in after years of searching for one.

I always thought they got along a little too well:laugh2:

 

[NextGenBoys]

Flunk the Steelers.

The model of success is that of the Patriots.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Flunk the Steelers.

The model of success is that of the Patriots.

So then you agree that having older, more experiences, linebackers is the way to go? Cause that's been their model for a long time now, up until they finally drafted Mayo this year.

 

[JBS]

im not sitting here trying to preach that the dallas cowboys should go ahead and sign Ray Lewis if indeed he does become available, however, the biggest arguement I see against Ray coming to dallas is that it is not realistic for Ray to come to dallas and be the emotional leader that he is in baltimore. My question is why not? Ray Lewis knows one thing and one thing only and that is to play with everything that he has and to leave it all on the field. Regardless of whether or not Lewis comes to dallas, I do not see his attitude and emotional swagger changing if he changes uniforms.

The closest comparison I could come up with was the Commanders acquisition of London Fletcher 2 years ago. The guy was the heart and soul of the bills defense for I believe 9 years. He immediately came into washington and took that defense over. If you ask any, and I mean any legitimate Commanders fan, they will all tell you Fletcher is the man who runs the show in DC. Just like he did in BUffalo, so why is it so far fetched for Ray to do the same thing in dallas?

 

[tyke1doe]

im not sitting here trying to preach that the dallas cowboys should go ahead and sign Ray Lewis if indeed he does become available, however, the biggest arguement I see against Ray coming to dallas is that it is not realistic for Ray to come to dallas and be the emotional leader that he is in baltimore. My question is why not? Ray Lewis knows one thing and one thing only and that is to play with everything that he has and to leave it all on the field. Regardless of whether or not Lewis comes to dallas, I do not see his attitude and emotional swagger changing if he changes uniforms.

It's the difference between a no-nonsense supervisor leaving one company and coming to another. His routine may have worked where he used to work because of his longevity there. But it may not work in his next job because without a "feeling out" period (and that doesn't come immediately), employees are going to consider him an SOB no matter how successful he was at the other place.

Unless Ray Lewis is going to knife them or something, the players don't have to listen to him. They're going to probably take the attitude, "Yeah, you were big stuff in Baltimore, but you're in Dallas now. I don't know who you think you are."

The closest comparison I could come up with was the Commanders acquisition of London Fletcher 2 years ago. The guy was the heart and soul of the bills defense for I believe 9 years. He immediately came into washington and took that defense over. If you ask any, and I mean any legitimate Commanders fan, they will all tell you Fletcher is the man who runs the show in DC. Just like he did in BUffalo, so why is it so far fetched for Ray to do the same thing in dallas?

What do you mean by "took over?" The Commanders were a pretty good defense under Greg Williams. Fletcher was just an added part.

Besides, do you know if Fletcher was yelling at fellow players telling them to get a fire lit under their behinds or else?

I think the reason Cowboys fans want Ray Ray is because they think he's going to light a fire under this defense. Well, how is he going to do that other than verbally? By his play? We have Ware for that.

Now, I could be wrong. But I just don't think you enter another team's locker room and become the anointed leader just by your presence. Ray has a history with the Ravens. When a player joins the Ravens, they know that this is Ray's defense. I don't think the same will be the case with Dallas.

 

[Rampage]

It's the difference between a no-nonsense supervisor leaving one company and coming to another. His routine may have worked where he used to work because of his longevity there. But it may not work in his next job because without a "feeling out" period (and that doesn't come immediately), employees are going to consider him an SOB no matter how successful he was at the other place.

Unless Ray Lewis is going to knife them or something, the players don't have to listen to him. They're going to probably take the attitude, "Yeah, you were big stuff in Baltimore, but you're in Dallas now. I don't know who you think you are."



What do you mean by "took over?" The Commanders were a pretty good defense under Greg Williams. Fletcher was just an added part.

Besides, do you know if Fletcher was yelling at fellow players telling them to get a fire lit under their behinds or else?

I think the reason Cowboys fans want Ray Ray is because they think he's going to light a fire under this defense. Well, how is he going to do that other than verbally? By his play? We have Ware for that.

Now, I could be wrong. But I just don't think you enter another team's locker room and become the anointed leader just by your presence. Ray has a history with the Ravens. When a player joins the Ravens, they know that this is Ray's defense. I don't think the same will be the case with Dallas.

but that's the point. other than Ware and a 5 game stretch by james our linebackers basically suck. Ray can also teach bradie how to drop back in coverage. I don't think he comes here but he would be a huge upgrade over that waste of a signing Zach Thomas. our ILB position is a weakness and he would make it a strength.