1990s LA police beating victim Rodney King found dead

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BraveHeartFan;4596747 said:
No one told people they had to riot like complete idiots, burning their own neighorhoods like morons, over a mistake by that fine justice system, and it's wonderful process, that you champion so much.

The cops were excessive and stupid but that doesn't mean the people who reacted in the way they did were any less stupid.

True, it was stupid and people lost lives in the process 53 people killed and business and lives burned to the ground.
 

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Doomsday101;4596757 said:
Yes and no. There were 2 other men in the car that night with King why did they not get "pummel by the police? because when told to get out of the car and on the ground they did as they were told.

This after a car chase where police were chasing them with speed of over 100 mph. Even after being tazzed King managed to get back on his feet that is when the police did use the night sticks and I would agree went past the point of acceptable but anyone who wants to make this out as King was out on a night drive and was just pulled over and beaten did not follow exactly what took place that night.


Which has been the case all along. There we people back then who tried to make it out like King was doing absolutely nothing wrong and was just beaten because they wanted to beat someone.



But I definately agree that it went beyond what was needed to put an end to the law breaking that night.
 

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King was never innocent but he was pummelled beyond which any person should be pummelled by the fuzz. He was on the ground and they kept pummelling him.

That was when we all found out that many of them are testaliars, make up the story to get off.

Yes Brave, I do agree with the system but I can also say the verdict was wrong, because anyone seeing that video has to know the cops went above and beyond.
 

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BraveHeartFan;4596791 said:
Which has been the case all along. There we people back then who tried to make it out like King was doing absolutely nothing wrong and was just beaten because they wanted to beat someone.



But I definately agree that it went beyond what was needed to put an end to the law breaking that night.

I agree. I think it was excessive but without taking everything into account it was also unfair to the police on trial. Add to that what was a jury going to do? not find them guilty after what happened the 1st time? I knew those officers were going to be found guilty before the 2nd trial started out of fear of yet more riots taking place.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4596796 said:
King was never innocent but he was pummelled beyond which any person should be pummelled by the fuzz. He was on the ground and they kept pummelling him.

That was when we all found out that many of them are testaliars, make up the story to get off.

Yes Brave, I do agree with the system but I can also say the verdict was wrong, because anyone seeing that video has to know the cops went above and beyond.

and if all you go by was that small bit of film without seeing the entire process then it does not tell the whole story.
 

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Doomsday101;4596799 said:
I agree. I think it was excessive but without taking everything into account it was also unfair to the police on trial. Add to that what was a jury going to do? not find them guilty after what happened the 1st time? I knew those officers were going to be found guilty before the 2nd trial started out of fear of yet more riots taking place.

IIRC, the second hearing wasn't criminal due to double jeopardy but was a human rights claim. It was like OJ, they got off on the criminal matter but were nailed in a civil quasi criminal proceeding.
 

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Doomsday101;4596805 said:
and if all you go by was that small bit of film without seeing the entire process then it does not tell the whole story.

that part of the film is really all you need to see, it doesn't matter what he was doing driving around, what his intentions were, fact is four white clubs were clubbing him like Newfies club baby seals. What more do you have to see?
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4596818 said:
that part of the film is really all you need to see, it doesn't matter what he was doing driving around, what his intentions were, fact is four white clubs were clubbing him like Newfies club baby seals. What more do you have to see?


Shocking that you'd say that.

Of course that's all you have to see if you want to paint the picture that 4 white cops randomly picked this one black guy to club on for absolutely no reason.


Anyone with a functional brain would want to know if there was more to it before they decided that 'hey these white guys just randomly decided to beat the hell out of a black guy because he was out driving a car."
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4596818 said:
that part of the film is really all you need to see, it doesn't matter what he was doing driving around, what his intentions were, fact is four white clubs were clubbing him like Newfies club baby seals. What more do you have to see?

Wow. Just wow. SMH.
 

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BraveHeartFan;4596854 said:
Shocking that you'd say that.

Of course that's all you have to see if you want to paint the picture that 4 white cops randomly picked this one black guy to club on for absolutely no reason.


Anyone with a functional brain would want to know if there was more to it before they decided that 'hey these white guys just randomly decided to beat the hell out of a black guy because he was out driving a car."

I can't believe someone would actually be defending those four cops. You obviously have no humanity in your soul.

Here is your logic.

"Four guys signed up to uphold the law beat up a guy, given they are there to uphold the law, the guy they beat up must have done something wrong, or else he would not have been beaten up as law upholders would not beat up an innocent man."

You must get your law from Nancy Grace.
 

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BraveHeartFan;4596747 said:
No one told people they had to riot like complete idiots, burning their own neighorhoods like morons, over a mistake by that fine justice system, and it's wonderful process, that you champion so much.

The cops were excessive and stupid but that doesn't mean the people who reacted in the way they did were any less stupid.

Our government built everything back using out tax dollars. I never understood how burning the local grocery store would somehow be took as a sign of protesting the verdict. I took it as a sign that the police should lock up some arsonist. Do you think I would have burned down my house because OJ was found not guilty? It made no sense rioting about the verdict. It made less sense to rebuild everything for them.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4596818 said:
that part of the film is really all you need to see, it doesn't matter what he was doing driving around, what his intentions were, fact is four white clubs were clubbing him like Newfies club baby seals. What more do you have to see?

What more do you have to see? You need to see the first part of the tape that showed King throwing the officers around like rag dolls to make a fair judgement. He threw them around so easily that the officers thought he was high on angel dust. The beatdown is usually the only part of the tape that is shown on TV. There is much more.
 

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jnday;4597048 said:
Our government built everything back using out tax dollars. I never understood how burning the local grocery store would somehow be took as a sign of protesting the verdict. I took it as a sign that the police should lock up some arsonist. Do you think I would have burned down my house because OJ was found not guilty? It made no sense rioting about the verdict. It made less sense to rebuild everything for them.

An arguement can be made that change is accelerated by these types of acts.

Following the verdict if there had been a minimal public outcry perhaps nothing would have changed within the LAPD and maybe throughout society in general.

As senseless and foolish as those types of events appear to be history has shown that they often initiate momentus shifts in public perception, awareness, and opinion.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4596818 said:
that part of the film is really all you need to see, it doesn't matter what he was doing driving around, what his intentions were, fact is four white clubs were clubbing him like Newfies club baby seals. What more do you have to see?

I see a guy that when Tazzed was able to get up, I see a guy who continue to try and get up even after repeatedly told to stay down. You may think real life is like the movies it is not. When a cop tells you to get on the ground do it they are not playing around with you. Do I think they went overboard yes I also think King could have prevented it by doing what he was ordered to do. When you have just put the cops in to a high speed chase situation then you are resisting, you put yourself into a bad situation.

Yeah and what fair trial did the police get? The city burned to the ground after the 1st trial there was no way these cops would get a fair trial. I knew they would be found guilty out of the fear of another round of riots. That is not justice
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4596882 said:
I can't believe someone would actually be defending those four cops. You obviously have no humanity in your soul.

Here is your logic.

"Four guys signed up to uphold the law beat up a guy, given they are there to uphold the law, the guy they beat up must have done something wrong, or else he would not have been beaten up as law upholders would not beat up an innocent man."

You must get your law from Nancy Grace.

I can't believe you can't read.

Wait, yes I can. You've proven over and over it's not your strong point.

I'm not defending them.

They went to far. Which I've already stated. It's in one of those posts that you struggle to comprehend because, again, your reading ability is below average.


However the fact that you're trying to make it out like some innocent dude was just out for a joy ride, doing nothing wrong, and was targeted to be beaten is pathetic.


Then again that goes with your posting history.

Pathetic.
 

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BraveHeartFan;4597828 said:
I can't believe you can't read.

Wait, yes I can. You've proven over and over it's not your strong point.

I'm not defending them.

They went to far. Which I've already stated. It's in one of those posts that you struggle to comprehend because, again, your reading ability is below average.


However the fact that you're trying to make it out like some innocent dude was just out for a joy ride, doing nothing wrong, and was targeted to be beaten is pathetic.


Then again that goes with your posting history.

Pathetic.

The second you start complaining about King not being innocent, you are defending the police, pure and simple.

I know you aren't trained in law, courtroom work or anything so I cut you some slack but the second you raise the issue of King not being totally clean, you are defending the fuzz. It is a time honoured technique.
 

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jnday;4597057 said:
What more do you have to see? You need to see the first part of the tape that showed King throwing the officers around like rag dolls to make a fair judgement. He threw them around so easily that the officers thought he was high on angel dust. The beatdown is usually the only part of the tape that is shown on TV. There is much more.

throwing the cops around like rag dolls, :lmao2:
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4597832 said:
The second you start complaining about King not being innocent, you are defending the police, pure and simple.

I know you aren't trained in law, courtroom work or anything so I cut you some slack but the second you raise the issue of King not being totally clean, you are defending the fuzz. It is a time honoured technique.


Wow.



I'm not defending anything they did. They went way to far.

You're the one who brought the rest of the issue up by trying to turn the situation into something that it wasn't.


The cops were way out of line. Hopefully that's crystal clear to you by this point.


But I'm not going to agree with you that King was some innocent dude who did nothing wrong and got beat up by 4 thugs in uniform.


That's a flat out lie of the situation t hat went down. One thug, speeding like a maniac, and high out of his stupid mind, got beat down by 4 thugs in uniforms.


They're all wrong, all stupid, and all deserved jail time for their stupidity.


And now I'll be using that shiny ignore feature because you're proven countless times in the last week that you're not all that bright and I don't want to waste my time reading any more of your posts.
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;4597834 said:
throwing the cops around like rag dolls, :lmao2:

Did you see the whole tape? I don't think it would really matter if you did. You are always drawn to defending anybody in the wrong. King not obeying police orders was wrong. He wouldn't have had a scratch on him if he had done the right thing. Do you think it is right to disobey police orders during an arrest?
 

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jnday;4597853 said:
Did you see the whole tape? I don't think it would really matter if you did. You are always drawn to defending anybody in the wrong. King not obeying police orders was wrong. He wouldn't have had a scratch on him if he had done the right thing. Do you think it is right to disobey police orders during an arrest?

In the middle of the night of March 3, 1991, King, a paroled robber, drove a vehicle at speeds over one hundred miles-per-hour on a Southern California freeway. He was pursued by California Highway Patrol officers who requested Los Angeles Police Department assistance when King exited the freeway and continued driving recklessly on surface streets. Once stopped, King's two passengers complied with police orders to get out of the car and submit to arrest. King eventually got out of the car and performed a bizarre "dance." He was sweating, laughing and talking irrationally, and many officers on the scene believed he was on drugs, most likely PCP.

The sergeant on the scene ordered four officers to approach and handcuff King, but King threw them off. The sergeant used a Taser electronic stun device on King, who fell to the ground. At that moment, a bystander across the street began videotaping the event. King rose to his feet and charged an officer who delivered a baton blow to King's upper body simultaneously with the sergeant's use of the Taser device again. King fell to the ground and sustained an ugly facial wound. King repeatedly attempted to regain his footing as two officers kicked and used police batons on him for well over a minute as the amateur video camera recorded the action.


Funny how the 2 other men with King did not have any trouble. They did as they were told. King resisted and fought back the end results was caught on tape but that was only a fraction of what took place.
 
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