20 Questions: 11 - which position is the most pressing need

[TwentyOne]

Since 2016?

I don't remember exactly everyone who was a pure day 1 starter that they drafted, but the Cowboys have 115 starting seasons from players drafted since 2016, 26 pro bowls, and 6 1st team all pro awards. I would be that is ahead of 85% of the rest of the league. Drafting ability is among the least of my concerns when it comes to the Cowboys.

But it should be.

Make yourself the work and research how many starters we had. It will make you think differently about our drafting abilities. i made up a post here quite a few months ago sbout that with a listing of our first day starters. There were about 6 or 7 as i remember. In a span of 8 years.

And remember we had a lot of players on defense that were medicore or real bad. Still especiall our first rounders werent able to unseat them.

Of course when you have a bad roster and draft bad players and are a no show in FA then if let players go (like lewis for instance) bad players will replace them. You should not bet on your feelings, better put in some work and verify that 85% on facts.

That we are good at drafting is a myth that was created by our FO when we decided to only sign our homegrown players and no other FAs anymore. That was during Garretts tenture when we constantly had to overspent on OL players to find good starter. Well we hit on 3 of them (4 if you count tyron Smith in, but he happend way earlier) i give them that.


But that created the myth that we are a great drafting team. And Jerry took it to the house. He PRed the brain out of everybody that we indeed are.

Fact is we are not good at drafting players. For the same reason we sign no FA and if wr do we have only medicaore sicess with them: our talent evaluation and de cssion making based on it is plain bad.

McClain is well overrated. And the decissions are made by JJ and SJ. Well i think you can judge their talent on your own.

 

[Chasing6]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/11-which-position-is-the-most-pressing-need

Several different answers here from the writers. As we will get a variety of them from our fans as well.
Though 2 say CB, because of the injuries.
DT and Swing Tackle are the others, with a mention of RB.

WR was an answer that would have been in the mix. But the Pickens trade took care of that.

What position do you have and why?

Most likely they same one we keep ignoring in FA.

 

[Bullflop]

I am not questioning if it is a good idea. We drafted 2 running backs for a reason. You think they will add another vet a cut a draft pick?

When was the last time a draft pick did not make the Cowboys roster?

I think at least one of Williams and Sanders will be sent packing. That's aside of Deuce getting the same treatment. Whether Mafah finds the success that you're hoping for remains to be seen. We're about to see a RB (Deuce) fail to make the Cowboys' roster. We're not the ones to decide. I'm hoping that we get a starter who can lead the RB corps by being a worthy starter. I'm not the only one who feels that way. In fact, I think you're in the minority who's willing to be stagnant with our RB corps. We need a veteran with a prior record of success, not failures.

 

[Chasing6]

I think at least one of Williams and Sanders will be sent packing. That's aside of Deuce getting the same treatment. Whether Mafah finds the success that you're hoping for remains to be seen. We're about to see a RB (Deuce) fail to make the Cowboys' roster. We're not the ones to decide. I'm hoping that we get a starter who can lead the RB corps by being a worthy starter. I'm not the only one who feels that way. In fact, I think you're in the minority who's willing to be stagnant with our RB corps.

Again, I am not willing. I am stating the facts of what our GM is doing.

He believes it is a passing league and his views have not changed, based off of his actions during the draft or free agency.

He would rather trade for a back up QB, or a 4th WR, than a legit RB.

 

[Bullflop]

Again, I am not willing. I am stating the facts of what our GM is doing.

He believes it is a passing league and his views have not changed, based off of his actions during the draft or free agency.

He would rather trade for a back up QB, or a 4th WR, than a legit RB.

I seriously doubt you have a special place within Jerry's mind and his intentions. Get real. Jerry is likely to do whatever he thinks is best. To say he's totally predictable by way of your thinking is funny. He changes his mind about things as he sees fit.

My hopes just differ from yours. Whether they lead to success by way of Jerry's intuition remains to be seen. He often works by way of committee advice. Let's just hope for the right decisions to be taken.

Think you could deal with that? In the end, we're both subject to the situation as it occurs. I'll adjust to whatever fate deals us. I want whatever makes this team win. I suspect we both do.

 

[thunderpimp91]

But it should be.

Make yourself the work and research how many starters we had. It will make you think differently about our drafting abilities. i made up a post here quite a few months ago sbout that with a listing of our first day starters. There were about 6 or 7 as i remember. In a span of 8 years.

And remember we had a lot of players on defense that were medicore or real bad. Still especiall our first rounders werent able to unseat them.

Of course when you have a bad roster and draft bad players and are a no show in FA then if let players go (like lewis for instance) bad players will replace them. You should not bet on your feelings, better put in some work and verify that 85% on facts.

That we are good at drafting is a myth that was created by our FO when we decided to only sign our homegrown players and no other FAs anymore. That was during Garretts tenture when we constantly had to overspent on OL players to find good starter. Well we hit on 3 of them (4 if you count tyron Smith in, but he happend way earlier) i give them that.


But that created the myth that we are a great drafting team. And Jerry took it to the house. He PRed the brain out of everybody that we indeed are.

Fact is we are not good at drafting players. For the same reason we sign no FA and if wr do we have only medicaore sicess with them: our talent evaluation and de cssion making based on it is plain bad.

McClain is well overrated. And the decissions are made by JJ and SJ. Well i think you can judge their talent on your own.

OK but even assuming everything you're saying is true, we still need to compare to the rest of the league. By nearly every measurable they are a top 5ish team in terms of drafting. All Pros, pro bowls, time in the league, snap counts, starting seasons, 2nd contracts, etc. are all non feeling based measurables that I'm going off here.

What I think you're probably ignoring here is that the draft is not a consistently successful event for any team in the league. By most measures even 1st round picks comes with a 50% bust rate. By the time you get to the 3rd round only about 10% of guys will make a pro bowl their entire career, half will be out of the league by their 2nd contracts.

For most drafts if you can come away with 1 plus starter and a couple rotational guys its typically a pretty good draft. You get two plus starters and its an excellent draft. Hitting on just 7 day 1 starters in 8 years isn't a massive failure IMO....especially if you're developing guys who can contribute later in the year or even year 2 as they've done with guy sliek Gallup, Williams, Armstrong, Schultz, Woods, Pollard, McGovern, Wilson, Biadasz, Ferg, etc.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Remember when the board was obsessed with the need for a good safety? The only question being debated was how many first round picks to give up for Earl Thomas. That was the missing ingredient, and Dallas would be Super-Bowl bound if they did it.

The DT obsession today strikes me the same way. I want a good DT as much as anybody, and there's no denying the need at the position, but stopping the run takes a whole lot more than a good DT.

As to the question in the OP- QB obviously.

 

[Chasing6]

I seriously doubt you have a special place within Jerry's mind and his intentions. Get real. Jerry is likely to do whatever he thinks is best. To say he's totally predictable by way of your thinking is funny. He changes his mind about things as he sees fit.

My hopes just differ from yours. Whether they lead to success by way of Jerry's intuition remains to be seen. He often works by way of committee advice. Let's just hope for the right decisions to be taken.

Think you could deal with that? In the end, we're both subject to the situation as it occurs. I'll adjust to whatever fate deals us. I want whatever makes this team win. I suspect we both do.

I have not stated any of my hopes. So I have no idea how you would know what they are.

Facts - Jerry has traded twice for back up QB's over looking for a legit starting RB.

Jerry traded for Trance, knowing he was going to extend Dak. Their was absolutely no logical sense in trading for Trance.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Jerry traded for Trance, knowing he was going to extend Dak. Their was absolutely no logical sense in trading for Trance.

Lance was acquired well before Dak got his new contract. Had Lance impressed, there's some question as to whether or not Dallas would have re-signed Dak. Lance would have been a very expensive backup QB, which is out of character for Jerry.

 

[Chasing6]

Lance was acquired well before Dak got his new contract. Had Lance impressed, there's some question as to whether or not Dallas would have re-signed Dak. Lance would have been a very expensive backup QB, which is out of character for Jerry.

Jerry immediately after signing Trance, said Trance is not in competition with Dak and that he would be resigning Dak.

Maybe he thought it would help with the negotiations. Who the hell knows what he thought, but obviously he thought wrong.

 

[big dog cowboy]

stopping the run takes a whole lot more than a good DT.

Yeah but it starts there. That is the first step.

 

[kskboys]

But it should be.

Make yourself the work and research how many starters we had. It will make you think differently about our drafting abilities. i made up a post here quite a few months ago sbout that with a listing of our first day starters. There were about 6 or 7 as i remember. In a span of 8 years.

And remember we had a lot of players on defense that were medicore or real bad. Still especiall our first rounders werent able to unseat them.

Of course when you have a bad roster and draft bad players and are a no show in FA then if let players go (like lewis for instance) bad players will replace them. You should not bet on your feelings, better put in some work and verify that 85% on facts.

That we are good at drafting is a myth that was created by our FO when we decided to only sign our homegrown players and no other FAs anymore. That was during Garretts tenture when we constantly had to overspent on OL players to find good starter. Well we hit on 3 of them (4 if you count tyron Smith in, but he happend way earlier) i give them that.


But that created the myth that we are a great drafting team. And Jerry took it to the house. He PRed the brain out of everybody that we indeed are.

Fact is we are not good at drafting players. For the same reason we sign no FA and if wr do we have only medicaore sicess with them: our talent evaluation and de cssion making based on it is plain bad.

McClain is well overrated. And the decissions are made by JJ and SJ. Well i think you can judge their talent on your own.

Yeah, drafting ability is huge for all teams. FA's are used to fill in the final pieces.

 

[cowboyec]

dt.
for awhile.
its always been dt.

mazi....you hear this?

 

[kskboys]

Not including QB the most pressing need is LB. They have enough fat boys to get in the way at DT. They have spent enough draft pics and money on offense too. Without some good seek and destroy LBs to fill the gaps the defense will struggle. I really would like to see them move Parsons back and play him at MLB position. They could still blitz him some but it would create more of a problem because the whole idea is to take away the middle of the field first. With Parsons speed no TE is running away from him and he could actually cover some WRs but he needs some time to learn.

No they don't.

 

[kskboys]

Remember when the board was obsessed with the need for a good safety? The only question being debated was how many first round picks to give up for Earl Thomas. That was the missing ingredient, and Dallas would be Super-Bowl bound if they did it.

The DT obsession today strikes me the same way. I want a good DT as much as anybody, and there's no denying the need at the position, but stopping the run takes a whole lot more than a good DT.

As to the question in the OP- QB obviously.

Well duh.

However, turn that around. You will not be a good run stopping D w/o good DT's.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Jerry immediately after signing Trance, said Trance is not in competition with Dak and that he would be resigning Dak.

Maybe he thought it would help with the negotiations. Who the hell knows what he thought, but obviously he thought wrong.

You're probably right that Jerry intended to re-sign Dak all along. If so, that trade is a real head scratcher. Giving up a 4th without controlling his rights for long enough to develop him is also baffling.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/11-which-position-is-the-most-pressing-need

Several different answers here from the writers. As we will get a variety of them from our fans as well.
Though 2 say CB, because of the injuries.
DT and Swing Tackle are the others, with a mention of RB.

WR was an answer that would have been in the mix. But the Pickens trade took care of that.

What position do you have and why?

QB and RB.
Not an ideal situation.

 

[Bullflop]

I have not stated any of my hopes. So I have no idea how you would know what they are.

Facts - Jerry has traded twice for back up QB's over looking for a legit starting RB.

Jerry traded for Trance, knowing he was going to extend Dak. Their was absolutely no logical sense in trading for Trance.

 

[Bullflop]

Chasing6 . . .
Exactly what are your hopes, pray tell. Most of what you've done so far is issue complaints. If I knew what you want, I wouldn't bother to ask. Now I'm asking. I just stated that I suspect you want to win, also. If you only want to win on your terms, you're likely to be miserable.

Jerry will do what he wants, as you well know. I choose to hope for the best for this team despite all of Jerry's faults. Can't you hope for the best for this team, despite his faults? If your answer is no, you'll be hopeless. That's a living hell. I surely wouldn't want to be you.

 

[charron]

DT specifically a 1tech, MLB who excells at stopping the run and built to take the punishment.