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nyc;1471062 said:Swap Bowe with Jarrett and I can see this. I understand the injury questions, but I would toss Lynch in here too. Only because I think he seems WAY overhyped on this board.
Huh? How did Bowe underperform before his senior season?InmanRoshi;1471088 said:Dwayne Bowe ... he played with a QB that's going to go #1 in the draft, Craig Davis who is a 2nd round pick and a Early Doucet who will be a 1st round pick next year. Think that might have helped him just a tad? Did this guy ever have to face a defense that was designed to stop Dwayne Bowe? Bowe looks tight, stiff and unfluid. I hate players that underperform for most of their college career and then have a big Senior season. It tells me they don't pick things up quickly and the game doesn't come natural for them. Is it going to take them 3 years before they pick up the pro game?
superpunk;1471135 said:DOLLY PARTON!
oppps...wrong thread.
theogt;1471105 said:Huh? How did Bowe underperform before his senior season?
2004 - 597
2005 - 710
2006 - 990
Looks like solid production from a young guy that steadily improved. It's not like he came out of nowhere like Meachem did in his final year. Maybe you were thinking of Meachem.
And that 2004 number was with LSU switching out QBs between a 2nd year Marcus Randall and a 1st year JaMarcus Russell.
And of course you conveniently forget that the guy had eye surgery. I'm not sure whether you've ever tried to play football in contacts, but it's brutal. A little sweat and movement and you can't see a thing. He fixed his vision and it fixed his drops.
And playing with 2 other really good WRs? That's a double-edged sword. Yes, teams had to cover those other WRs, but those WRs also took passes away from Bowe. Their offense spread the ball around. It's quite a feat to get 1000 yards in college with two other really good WRs taking catches away from you. He was a clear #1 WR on a team with 3 potential #1 WRs in the NFL. How is that a bad thing?
I'm just a guy that scratches his head when he sees ridiculous posts.InmanRoshi;1471154 said:All I know is Bowe was thought to be a 4th round pick heading into this year and he was considered to be a disappointment at LSU until this year.
Are you his agent?
theogt;1471105 said:Huh? How did Bowe underperform before his senior season?
theogt;1471168 said:I'm just a guy that scratches his head when he sees ridiculous posts.
Meachem wasn't even considered a 4th rounder coming into this season. Russell wasn't considered a #1 overall. Calvin Johnson was considered a 1st rounder, but he wasn't the consensus best player that he is now.
Quentin Moses was considered a lock in the first round. Chris Houston was considered a late first day/early 2nd day pick.
Things change. Some guys improve their stock because they *gasp* play very well on the field.
I'm not sure a wide receiver is a bust simply because he wasn't a consensus 1st rounder since his freshman year.
Actually, Flynn and Perillouix are pretty good. It'll be interesting to see who wins that battle.InmanRoshi;1471183 said:I'm not a huge Meachem fan either, but Meachem is also a junior and is younger than Bowe.
You're right. Things change. Something tells me if Bowe had another year of eligibility and had played with Russell's replacement next year, Bowe goes back to being a 3rd round draft pick in the 2008 draft.
Crown Royal;1470737 said:Peterson will likely start with a brilliant career, but eventually his body won't take it. Maybe 2-3 good looking seasons, but will never put it all together for a great career.
InmanRoshi;1471183 said:You're right. Things change. Something tells me if Bowe had another year of eligibility and had played with Russell's replacement next year, Bowe goes back to being a 3rd round draft pick in the 2008 draft.
Just for the record, Bowe ran a 4.40 at his Pro Day. Beyond that, his game speed is pretty good.nyc;1471261 said:I think Bowe just needed and needs more development. Like I said before, the only thing he lacks that can't be taught is speed. Speed doesn't determine if you are a good or great receiver. This is a major reason I wouldn't draft Ginn in the first round. He could end up being a Santana Moss type player. If your intent is shutting him down, he is a goner. If you forget about him, his speed will kill you. This is why Moss' career as been off and on. He kills someone, then they key on him and he goes quiet. Then after he hasn't made any noise in awhile, someone forgets about him, and he drops 150 yards and 2 TDs on them. I think Bowe can be far more consistent because he has strength, size, and hands. He can be taught to run better routes.
theogt;1471285 said:Just for the record, Bowe ran a 4.40 at his Pro Day. Beyond that, his game speed is pretty good.
People talk about his speed as if he runs in the 4.6s or 4.7s. He doesn't have Ted Ginn speed, but he's certainly not as slow as Dwayne Jarrett.
That's pretty fast. I never timed, but I don't think I'd be anywhere near a 4.6.nyc;1471290 said:Ah, I had him at 4.52 40. Which isn't blazing fast, but it's faster than I ran the 40 in highschool. (4.6)