2014-23 Top Teams Win Totals vs The Much Maligned JJ

TNCowboy said:
ost teams bottom out and lose on purpose when they know they have no chance to contend. Not Jones. Jones has his coaches out there doing everything they can to win meaningless December games that cost the team a fortune in draft capita
Click to expand...
Stop

As long as it keeps us out of the Sanders discussion
 
Wow, one of the dumbest threads of all time! That takes skill. The amount of copium and settling is astounding. Jerry himself has stated if it were any other GM, he would have fired him for lack of post-season success.

And to have the gall to sit here and defend the incompetence? Pathetic.
 
Top ten in regular season wins gets a participation trophy, nothing more.

Jets, Browns, and Texans have the same number of Super Bowls as you do. They get the participation trophy too.
 
Gameover said:
Top 10 team 20 year stretch. Drafted more pro bowlers -- all pros -- ROY than just about anybody the past 20 years
Click to expand...
And that got us what, a few wildcard wins?

Jerry doesn't have a clue how to build a team nor the desire. And he definitely doesn't want to hire a quality HC and give him any real power or control.

Jerry and Stephen could leave tomorrow and we'd instantly be a better team.
 
Gameover said:
Green Bay - 101
Baltimore - 98
Minnesota - 92
Kansas City- 117
Pittsburgh - 94
New Orleans - 95
New England - 103
San Francisco - 79
Philadelphia - 93
Seattle - 99
Buffalo - 97t
Denver - 86
Los Angeles Rams - 99


Jerry Jones - 98

You gone find another GM better than that? JJ would be fired if he were the GM of another team? With win totals amongst the elite over a ten season stretch? What are y'all whinnying about? A real GM gone suit up and get you over the hump come playoff time? Jerry gets no credit for that? He gets criticized for every loss I think it's appropriate to add some counter balance to some of the falsehoods surrounding the Dallas Cowboys! Every time the Cowboys lose a game, they say the Cowboys are the worst run franchise in pro sports, but reality is the Cowboys have been a top 10 team for two decades despite all the negative perceptions and falsehoods. No nuance when it come to the Cowboys(Nuance isn't that the word smart people like to use) if they win a couple of game: the cowboys are complete failures if they dont win with all that talent... if they lose a couple of games: the cowboys are the worst run team in pro sports. Troy Aikman the king of that

You can fail with a real GM. You truly don't believe the Cowboys are one GM a way from Lombardi's falling in your lap, do you?
Click to expand...
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not. If you’re serious then my rebuttal is:
1. Jerry Jones led Cowboys have the longest drought in the NFC of making the NFCCG. Enough said
2. Regardless of some great players he’s drafted (and I mean that, he has done well drafting) or wins, Jerry’s ongoing failure as a GM is allowing and encouraging a team culture that does not prioritize winning.
 
This 2014 bias and pointing at Jerry makes little sense.

Usually people go for post 1994 for when after Jimmy left or post 1996 to exclude CG and SB appearances. Nevermind that Jerry has been the same half-assed, named GM since 1989.
 
hmm-suspect.gif


This has to be satire. lol
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
This 2014 bias and pointing at Jerry makes little sense.

Usually people go for post 1994 for when after Jimmy left or post 1996 to exclude CG and SB appearances. Nevermind that Jerry has been the same half-assed, named GM since 1989.
Click to expand...
You know it wasn’t chosen because it was supposed to make sense. It’s convenient that it spans a decade because it makes it sound more important than it is, but it also cuts out Wade and McCarthy’s last years and 3 of Jason’s 8-8 seasons. You pretty much have to start at 2014 to have Jerry end up where he does on the list because the team was less successful overall for all of the 2000 - 2009 period.
 
Gameover said:
Green Bay - 101
Baltimore - 98
Minnesota - 92
Kansas City- 117
Pittsburgh - 94
New Orleans - 95
New England - 103
San Francisco - 79
Philadelphia - 93
Seattle - 99
Buffalo - 97t
Denver - 86
Los Angeles Rams - 99


Jerry Jones - 98

You gone find another GM better than that? JJ would be fired if he were the GM of another team? With win totals amongst the elite over a ten season stretch? What are y'all whinnying about? A real GM gone suit up and get you over the hump come playoff time? Jerry gets no credit for that? He gets criticized for every loss I think it's appropriate to add some counter balance to some of the falsehoods surrounding the Dallas Cowboys! Every time the Cowboys lose a game, they say the Cowboys are the worst run franchise in pro sports, but reality is the Cowboys have been a top 10 team for two decades despite all the negative perceptions and falsehoods. No nuance when it come to the Cowboys(Nuance isn't that the word smart people like to use) if they win a couple of game: the cowboys are complete failures if they dont win with all that talent... if they lose a couple of games: the cowboys are the worst run team in pro sports. Troy Aikman the king of that

You can fail with a real GM. You truly don't believe the Cowboys are one GM a way from Lombardi's falling in your lap, do you?
Click to expand...
Did not know Jerry posted here.
 
Gameover said:
Green Bay - 101
Baltimore - 98
Minnesota - 92
Kansas City- 117
Pittsburgh - 94
New Orleans - 95
New England - 103
San Francisco - 79
Philadelphia - 93
Seattle - 99
Buffalo - 97t
Denver - 86
Los Angeles Rams - 99


Jerry Jones - 98

You gone find another GM better than that? JJ would be fired if he were the GM of another team? With win totals amongst the elite over a ten season stretch? What are y'all whinnying about? A real GM gone suit up and get you over the hump come playoff time? Jerry gets no credit for that? He gets criticized for every loss I think it's appropriate to add some counter balance to some of the falsehoods surrounding the Dallas Cowboys! Every time the Cowboys lose a game, they say the Cowboys are the worst run franchise in pro sports, but reality is the Cowboys have been a top 10 team for two decades despite all the negative perceptions and falsehoods. No nuance when it come to the Cowboys(Nuance isn't that the word smart people like to use) if they win a couple of game: the cowboys are complete failures if they dont win with all that talent... if they lose a couple of games: the cowboys are the worst run team in pro sports. Troy Aikman the king of that

You can fail with a real GM. You truly don't believe the Cowboys are one GM a way from Lombardi's falling in your lap, do you?
Click to expand...
Explain what this is for I don't get it those numbers are all over the place what do you mean game over Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys have more wins than a lot of those teams on that list I don't get your point I mean what am I missing here I mean what exactly is the point of listing those numbers all out of whack by the way should you start from highest to lowest or lowest to highest you just pointed out numbers that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me how about we just stay in the last five years I mean why are we always putting things so far back that it tries to help you cherry pick and do narratives isn't it each roster turnover with the main components and the coaching Staffs gets a reset sometimes they are resetting you don't have to reset the GM to reset the perspectives but if we keep it in the last five years put those numbers together but please tell me the point of that list up there because it doesn't make sense to me that Jerry has a lot more wins than many people on that list or damn close to it I don't get what your point is that he has almost as many wins as many of those teams on the list you're trying to bolster him or you trying to hurt him i don't get it..
 
ZekeTrain said:
Did not know Jerry posted here.
Click to expand...
First of all he's correct we get the playoffs matter more we get deep playoff runs maybe trying a little harder in the offseason make an effort to improve the team helps if you don't have a bad run of injuries like we had in 2020 and last year I mean it was literally you're not winning with any group when you have that many injuries so let's just keep it where it should be but I get why he posted that now I didn't in my thought process why is he posting something in favor of Jerry 'cause it doesn't usually happen around here..

But he's absolutely correct and Jerry Jones has said it we're one of the best regular season teams we make the playoffs and we win divisions with some of the top ten teams in the league and at some point we were top six and we just stay in the last five years the Cowboys are competitive there's a reason they're still getting primetime games when healthy this team competes and I realize it's not enough but he deserves some flowers he is not first GM in the league he cannot be because those numbers say he's not because winning games is the most important part because you have to win regular season games in order to qualify for the playoffs there's a lot of teams around here that haven't even won a division in a long time help the Cleveland Browns haven't even won a division since 1989 there are teams that wish they could have had a three-year stretch like we just had because they don't even get that to go to the playoffs three straight years they've been in the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years they have one division so you have to at least give Jerry credit for that they're saying that he's so bad they're talking about him like he's The Jets or the Cleveland Browns as far as not being able to assemble a competitive teams and actually compete when healthy they are one of the best teams..​
​
A lot of the narratives on here are false because if he doesn't put together a roster that can win games in the regular season and they never make the playoffs that means his rosters are good enough he is paying his best players and again we get it he may not make enough trades he's not aggressive enough he doesn't do enough in free agency to maybe make a bigger difference we get all that but he still deserves credit for putting together a team that wins more than they lose and they are on par with most of the better teams in the league you have to acknowledge that you can't say he's the worst GM when he's really not is he a top GM no absolutely not is he top five no but he definitely belongs in the top 10 if you wanna put him at 10 or 12 if you wanna call him a middling GM that's fine but saying he sucks and saying he's terrible and the worst in the league is like saying that Prescott's not a great quarterback you all lose perspective on what trash looks like and what really bad looks like..​
​
I think that's the point we all agree he has his shortcomings he's annoying to listen to he has a big ego he wants to be on you know media and have attention that's just something that all bugs all of us it's annoying... But we're not gonna agree on calling this dude trash saying he's the worst GM in the league, he sucks, because he's not if he was the worst in the league he wouldn't be on par with that list.​
​
.​
 
Gameover said:
Green Bay - 101
Baltimore - 98
Minnesota - 92
Kansas City- 117
Pittsburgh - 94
New Orleans - 95
New England - 103
San Francisco - 79
Philadelphia - 93
Seattle - 99
Buffalo - 97t
Denver - 86
Los Angeles Rams - 99


Jerry Jones - 98

You gone find another GM better than that? JJ would be fired if he were the GM of another team? With win totals amongst the elite over a ten season stretch? What are y'all whinnying about? A real GM gone suit up and get you over the hump come playoff time? Jerry gets no credit for that? He gets criticized for every loss I think it's appropriate to add some counter balance to some of the falsehoods surrounding the Dallas Cowboys! Every time the Cowboys lose a game, they say the Cowboys are the worst run franchise in pro sports, but reality is the Cowboys have been a top 10 team for two decades despite all the negative perceptions and falsehoods. No nuance when it come to the Cowboys(Nuance isn't that the word smart people like to use) if they win a couple of game: the cowboys are complete failures if they dont win with all that talent... if they lose a couple of games: the cowboys are the worst run team in pro sports. Troy Aikman the king of that

You can fail with a real GM. You truly don't believe the Cowboys are one GM a way from Lombardi's falling in your lap, do you?
Click to expand...
This reminds me of a participation trophy.
Championships are the true measure of success.....
 
Jerry would’ve been fired if he was the GM of another team…yeah you can win 12 games a year cool

What do you do in the playoffs?
 
Gameover said:
Green Bay - 101
Baltimore - 98
Minnesota - 92
Kansas City- 117
Pittsburgh - 94
New Orleans - 95
New England - 103
San Francisco - 79
Philadelphia - 93
Seattle - 99
Buffalo - 97t
Denver - 86
Los Angeles Rams - 99


Jerry Jones - 98

You gone find another GM better than that? JJ would be fired if he were the GM of another team? With win totals amongst the elite over a ten season stretch? What are y'all whinnying about? A real GM gone suit up and get you over the hump come playoff time? Jerry gets no credit for that? He gets criticized for every loss I think it's appropriate to add some counter balance to some of the falsehoods surrounding the Dallas Cowboys! Every time the Cowboys lose a game, they say the Cowboys are the worst run franchise in pro sports, but reality is the Cowboys have been a top 10 team for two decades despite all the negative perceptions and falsehoods. No nuance when it come to the Cowboys(Nuance isn't that the word smart people like to use) if they win a couple of game: the cowboys are complete failures if they dont win with all that talent... if they lose a couple of games: the cowboys are the worst run team in pro sports. Troy Aikman the king of that

You can fail with a real GM. You truly don't believe the Cowboys are one GM a way from Lombardi's falling in your lap, do you?
Click to expand...
essentially you just argued that Jerry and cowboys are average and that's good enough!!! is that the rant? wait, are you on Jerry's payroll? is this Jerry's ghost account on this site? is he trying to respond to the glory h ole people he mentioned. the few?

now, in that span. how many of those teams above have been to CCG and superbowls...what is the playoff record of those teams? as far as I can tell, SF, Philly, NE, Buffalo, Rams, KC, Baltiimore, GB, Vikings, steelers, seatle, Denver all had CCGs, superbowl apperances and superbowl wins. all except the saints.
sorry, this ain't a winning argument to defend Jones. if anything I want his *** fired sooner than later.

also, why choose that period of time. looks very specific and agenda driven.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Staff online

Members online

... and 114 more.
Total: 6,017 (members: 214, guests: 5,803)

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
464,051
Messages
13,786,053
Members
23,771
Latest member
LandryHat
Back
Top