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I hate to say it because it’s not what I want, but every fiber in me points to Bill Belichick.
I would prefer an offensive minded coach who also knows how to run the ball, but …

Jerry has gone so far down the rabbit hole and finds himself in a hurricane of criticism and mockery unlike anything since his first inaugural season in Dallas with Jimmy Johnson when the media referred to both men as the Beverley Hillbillies of the NFL who had no idea what they were doing. I believe his only response that won’t be questioned will be to hire the greatest coach the NFL has ever seen. This will restore instant respect and a level of credibility that our narcissistic owner craves whether it’s best for the future or not.

Why will Bill accept the position? Because Jerry has already nurtured the relationship, Bill has had over a year to ponder it, Jerry will pay whatever it takes to avoid the criticism that comes with another poor hire, and because restoring the Dallas Cowboys to prominence by creating a tough culture and rebuilding Doomsday over the next couple of years will further his legacy rather than possibly hurting it with failure to win with another poor team.

Bill Belichick may be a little over the hill, but …
  • He knows how to build a tough culture of accountability
  • He will reduce the stupid penalties by non-stars in short order with his philosophy that “you aren’t good enough to compensate for your penalties.”
  • He will restore the run game
  • He is a genius when it comes to defense. That’s the one area where Father Time doesn’t seem to win, and he will likely have Parsons playing pass rush OLB in a switch to the 3-4
  • He will never struggle to bring in GREAT assistants who want to learn under him in their quest to become head coaches.
  • There are tough minded veterans out there that Bill gives us a better chance at signing
Bill Belichick is definitely not the sexy pick, not the Shannahan offensive tree, not the young boy genius coming from a great team that may have inflated his genius status, but if Jerry wants to restore his own credibility a little, give fans something to believe in, and if fans want to restore the Cowboys tradition of having a Doomsday defense and a run game that the great and good QBs can lean on and win with, Belichick may be the best answer.

I think we all realize now that this team will never win and be a serious contender until the culture first changes. If nothing else, Belichick may be the only available coach who can actually change our culture, perhaps the only coach available that Jerry would allow to change the failing culture he has created.
I’m not against it, but I ask where that leaves us in two years when he quits?

This is no longer a roster on the cusp of winning that needs something extra immediately. That was the case when McCarthy was hired and that was blown by the FOs typical misevaluations. It’s now one that would be better served spending two years building rather than trying to take a last gasp shot.

Change the culture? Sign me up that yesterday. Those two may be buddies when they run into each other at events, but Jerry would have to make serious concessions as far as how he operates…and I don’t think he is there yet. Honestly, they are each the exact polar opposite as far as how football matters are handled. One bad season when he lost his star QB isn’t going to make him change.

I actually heard from a credible FAN NY host that the Kraft/BB relationship is patched up, and he may return there. Supposedly loves Drake Maye.
 

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I don't think Bill is the right answer, but I will take him any day over what I think will happen - Mike Zimmer is the next HC, or Garrett is brought back, or a former Cowboy with no coaching experience who gets to train on the job.
You guys don't really think Garrett is in the realm of possibility, do you?
 

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Yeah they sucked. Bill was basically the GM and coach there.
I would rather have Deon.
What would Deion be able to do here as a HC? He’s a figurehead coach at Colo which has worked very well. He has been able to use the transfer portal better than any coach in college FB. But the NFL is a completely different game.

I just can’t see Sanders being able to motivate and discipline grown men, be able to develop and deploy modern NFL schemes on both sides of the ball, and more importantly, I can’t see him being able to improve this putrid team culture.
 

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Do you think they would turn down the job? I think either Zimmer or Garrett would jump at the chance. Neither one would get an offer from any other franchise.
It’ll be a first timer/coordinator that isn’t red hot and Jerry knows personally, like Moore.

Or…..someone who no one else would hire as HC, like Zimmer or Ryan.

Garrett? Not even Jerry can sell that one.
 

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What would Deion be able to do here as a HC? He’s a figurehead coach at Colo which has worked very well. He has been able to use the transfer portal better than any coach in college FB. But the NFL is a completely different game.

I just can’t see Sanders being able to motivate and discipline grown men, be able to develop and deploy modern NFL schemes on both sides of the ball, and more importantly, I can’t see him being able to improve this putrid team culture.
But he's made it clear he doesn't want a pro job he said he's not interested not everyone is because they know like Saban, Myers , Arkansas Bobby petrino ,Chip Kelly ,they all failed here those were some damn good college coaches that ran really fast from the NFL...

There's a difference between leading and turning young men into better athletes and better people and football players then when they enter the NFL as millionaires.. And then having to step up their game and prove themselves all over again it's kind of hard to coach in the NFL as far as the roster goes compared to high school and college....
 

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I dont think BB will ever coach again but for some silly reason he did he will have much more attractive options to choose from over Dallas.
 

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I dont think BB will ever coach again but for some silly reason he did he will have much more attractive options to choose from over Dallas.
That may be your opinion on how the outside world views us but you'd be very wrong this is considered one of the top jobs in the NFL you can bring up anything you want I'm gonna tell you it doesn't matter that Jerry Jones is involved bill Parcells came here knowing exactly what he was getting into there's been some really good coaches here Mike McCarthy may be a clown to you but he's a Super Bowl champion and he came here and I get it he may not be Bill Belichick but Bill Belichick before New England and Tom Brady and after Tom Brady left was not the same coach so act like this dude is so special that he would turn down the Cowboys job... it could very well be a very attractive job to him because it's a challenge, he's older too just like Jerry Jones and think about this it may be his last stop but there is a core group of players here when you already have your quarterback and again I don't wanna hear your opinions towards Prescott I'm telling you when you have key pieces that he doesn't have to get and all you have to do is fill in all the other spots and get a scheme in here get the right staff is a lot more attractive than you think this is not starting from the ground up for an older coach this literally would be more attractive because there are pieces already here that most coaches would need years to find and establish and create they do not have to do that here we have a lot of key pieces and they don't look like it this year but I promise you this 12 win team is still pretty close to what they were had it not been a rash of injuries the coaching staff is actually subpar..

I'd rather have Vrabel though, fromt the BB tree much more in tune with younger payers and hes done better things with less talent especially at QB..
 

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I have great respect for Bill Belechick as a head coach but I really hope he’s NOT the HC here next year and here are my reasons:
  • BB is 72. Every great HC reaches a time when the game passes them. Tom Landry was 64 his last season and Don Shula was 65 when he retired in 1995. Even the greats just reach a time when the game is ahead of them.
  • I don’t think BB will agree to come here anyway. Why? He’s used to having maximum control. He HATES having any info leaked to the press and he likes being the only spokesman for the team. Why would he be ok with the circus this place is under Jerry?
  • I think having BB here would be a step back for this franchise. He prefers old school schemes on both sides of the ball.
  • IMO, we need a younger, hungrier, more modern NFL HC. Like Jimmy was in 1989. Having said that, I don’t think Jerry will ever again hire a guy like that.
I know Bill B could become the next HC here. In some ways it’s just what JJ loves. A big name. But I’m afraid a name alone doesn’t win football games and certainly can’t fix this putrid culture without a major change in how Jerry operates.
Why should he?? coming from the ranks of college we've seen Myers and Saban and Petrino and Chip Kelly and you could keep listing some of the ones from the NFL that we thought would be good because of their coordinator jobs on a stacked team like Ben Johnson you think he's gonna just come here and recreate all that there's no guarantee why would you Jerry's age wanna take a risk on a young college coach that you thinks like Jimmy Johnson I know you don't think that about the chargers coach he's a retrenched from the NFL that would be something Jerry would do and I would be in agreement but I'll take Vrabel all day long he's a younger version of Bill Belichick I think he did more with less in Tennessee and with this core group with the right staff and the right draft and if you could just get Jerry to open up as well a little more free agency this could be right back on track next year IMHO

and by the way maybe I'm lost and out of touch but why don't you remind me the last hot shot super guy like Jimmy Johnson it came from the ranks of college that literally came into the NFL and.... like i i can't remember the last one...
 

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That may be your opinion on how the outside world views us but you'd be very wrong this is considered one of the top jobs in the NFL you can bring up anything you want I'm gonna tell you it doesn't matter that Jerry Jones is involved bill Parcells came here knowing exactly what he was getting into there's been some really good coaches here Mike McCarthy may be a clown to you but he's a Super Bowl champion and he came here and I get it he may not be Bill Belichick but Bill Belichick before New England and Tom Brady and after Tom Brady left was not the same coach so act like this dude is so special that he would turn down the Cowboys job... it could very well be a very attractive job to him because it's a challenge, he's older too just like Jerry Jones and think about this it may be his last stop but there is a core group of players here when you already have your quarterback and again I don't wanna hear your opinions towards Prescott I'm telling you when you have key pieces that he doesn't have to get and all you have to do is fill in all the other spots and get a scheme in here get the right staff is a lot more attractive than you think this is not starting from the ground up for an older coach this literally would be more attractive because there are pieces already here that most coaches would need years to find and establish and create they do not have to do that here we have a lot of key pieces and they don't look like it this year but I promise you this 12 win team is still pretty close to what they were had it not been a rash of injuries the coaching staff is actually subpar..

I'd rather have Vrabel though, fromt the BB tree much more in tune with younger payers and hes done better things with less talent especially at QB..
Blue, just my opinion but I honestly don’t think Dallas is still considered a “top job” like it used to be. I think Jerry has clearly become more difficult to work with and despite the glow of the Cowboys brand, being the HC here has lost lots of the luster it once had.

Why do I believe that? Name the last “great” HC who agreed to coach here. McCarthy is a good HC. Definitely the best we’ve had since Parcells. In fact, look at the HCs we’ve had since Jimmy left. Barry, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Parcells, Wade, Garrett and now Mac. Who of those guys other than Parcells (who was at the end of his career) and Mac (who is now 61) would be considered top notch HCs?

IMO, the HC job in Dallas is not what it once was. Just look at the coaches we’ve had. Secondly, the most attractive things for a HC in this league are 1. Having a supportive owner. 2. Having a really good GM who can give you talent and support. I don’t think Dallas offers that at all.
 

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I'd rather it be Belichick than Moore, or Zimmer, or whatever other idea Jerry might have.

Belichick + a young, innovative OC would be a great combination.
 

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That may be your opinion on how the outside world views us but you'd be very wrong this is considered one of the top jobs in the NFL you can bring up anything you want I'm gonna tell you it doesn't matter that Jerry Jones is involved bill Parcells came here knowing exactly what he was getting into there's been some really good coaches here Mike McCarthy may be a clown to you but he's a Super Bowl champion and he came here and I get it he may not be Bill Belichick but Bill Belichick before New England and Tom Brady and after Tom Brady left was not the same coach so act like this dude is so special that he would turn down the Cowboys job... it could very well be a very attractive job to him because it's a challenge, he's older too just like Jerry Jones and think about this it may be his last stop but there is a core group of players here when you already have your quarterback and again I don't wanna hear your opinions towards Prescott I'm telling you when you have key pieces that he doesn't have to get and all you have to do is fill in all the other spots and get a scheme in here get the right staff is a lot more attractive than you think this is not starting from the ground up for an older coach this literally would be more attractive because there are pieces already here that most coaches would need years to find and establish and create they do not have to do that here we have a lot of key pieces and they don't look like it this year but I promise you this 12 win team is still pretty close to what they were had it not been a rash of injuries the coaching staff is actually subpar..

I'd rather have Vrabel though, fromt the BB tree much more in tune with younger payers and hes done better things with less talent especially at QB..
Bull, first Bill and Jerry will never get along as both of them are known for speaking their mind to the press so that is just a disaster waiting to happen. Bill does not fit the mold that Jerry wants, he wants a yes man and thats not Bill.

Secondly there is nothing great about this job. Im sure he has no desire to rebuild a team but if he did why would he choose ours. Heck Jacksonville would be much more favorable team over us. Bill would get full control of the team and not have to deal with an idiot like Jerry, plus any coach in the league would rather have Trevor over Dak etc etc.
 

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Blue, just my opinion but I honestly don’t think Dallas is still considered a “top job” like it used to be. I think Jerry has clearly become more difficult to work with and despite the glow of the Cowboys brand, being the HC here has lost lots of the luster it once had.

Why do I believe that? Name the last “great” HC who agreed to coach here. McCarthy is a good HC. Definitely the best we’ve had since Parcells. In fact, look at the HCs we’ve had since Jimmy left. Barry, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Parcells, Wade, Garrett and now Mac. Who of those guys other than Parcells (who was at the end of his career) and Mac (who is now 61) would be considered top notch HCs?

IMO, the HC job in Dallas is not what it once was. Just look at the coaches we’ve had. Secondly, the most attractive things for a HC in this league are 1. Having a supportive owner. 2. Having a really good GM who can give you talent and support. I don’t think Dallas offers that at all.
And again I disagree I still think Dallas is very attractive no matter what doesn't matter what you feel like who came here but who had the opportunity to come here Dan Quinn for sure wanted this job a lot of other coaches would have took this job had it been offered to them that's the problem that's where you're missing the point it's not that they don't want to be here they're not being offered the opportunity that's why I think the best of both worlds would be able it's basically getting a younger version of Bill Belichick a little bit more in tune that's why I'm hoping it accidentally happens...


I know it's how you feel but the way the Dallas Cowboys are looked at in the media the way the league wants them in prime time they're still very attractive given the core players we have here grabbing one down year but this is more like 2020 or 2015 and it's not gonna be a long one they know it now if we were going for the long haul if we had the need for starting completely over blowing it up from the bottom then you get a young coach and then they can have two or three years to try to start building this up through the draft and some free agency but they would have to 1st find their quarterback that's not the position we are in we have that now the window may not seem open because we're going through this process right now it's very painful but I don't see this as a long term thing a really good coaching staff and one nice offseason is that all it will take for us to be right back at double digit wins and fighting for the NFC East that means a veteran coach much like Bill Belichick or Vrabel or someone adjacent to them sees that opportunity...

But again I think you're missing the fact that the way you view Jerry Jones and even though the league understands it there is a very small group but a group that would come here in a heartbeat they have just never been offered the opportunity because Jerry didn't give it to him so you thinking they wouldn't come here only because they haven't is more on Jerry not giving them the opportunity... I hope they don't make that mistake and go for the college ranked guy because that's a long term type deal you have to consider the situation and we need a win now guy just for a couple years...
 

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Bull, first Bill and Jerry will never get along as both of them are known for speaking their mind to the press so that is just a disaster waiting to happen. Bill does not fit the moldxthat Jerry wants, he wants a yes man and thats not Bill.

Secondly there is nothing great about this job. Im sure he has no desire to rebuild a team but if he did why would he choose ours. Heck Jacksonville would be much more favorable team over us. Bill would get full control of the team and not have to deal with an idiot like Jerry, plus any coach in the league would rather have Trevor over Dak etc etc.
You can use the word bull 75 times and you can put it in bold letters and make it really big and you can even make it shiny and red and I'm telling you my opinion stands and I'm not changing it so you can keep calling me whenever you want apparently you don't follow me I'm not backing down it's still an attractive job and no they would not rather have Trevor over dak see I knew you would bring up Prescott in this and I asked you not to and you did it anyway this is not about the quarterback one versus the other but that was really really ridiculous to say that that's not how the league views who last year was second MVP voting... So let's move on to ask you one thing do not bring up the quarterback and you did it anyway so apparently you can't follow simple directions I'm not interested in talking about who they rather have I'm telling you this app is very attractive and screw the Jaguars the Jaguars ever done in their entire history we're talking about coaching one of the most historical teams on the planet regardless of the owner I guarantee you that it's more attractive than you think it's just the fact that Jerry's so stupid to offer it to the right people..

Do not respond to me if that's what you're gonna talk about I immediately put you on ignore and will never see your post ever again I'm not having the issue on which job is more attractive because of the quarterback because I don't wanna hear your view on the quarterback... That's not what we're talking about we have a veteran quarterback who's easily in the top ten but can play like a top five guy given the right players he's got nothing here I mean which is it Jerry Jones is a terrible GM that does nothing in the offseason and Steven Jones is budget minded and budget been shopping and they had a terrible 2023 draft they don't know how to build a team or you're blaming the quarterback because there's no team around them I'm not having that discussion we've already done this I'm not doing it I'm telling you you're flat out wrong moving on
 

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And again I disagree I still think Dallas is very attractive no matter what doesn't matter what you feel like who came here but who had the opportunity to come here Dan Quinn for sure wanted this job a lot of other coaches would have took this job had it been offered to them that's the problem that's where you're missing the point it's not that they don't want to be here they're not being offered the opportunity that's why I think the best of both worlds would be able it's basically getting a younger version of Bill Belichick a little bit more in tune that's why I'm hoping it accidentally happens...


I know it's how you feel but the way the Dallas Cowboys are looked at in the media the way the league wants them in prime time they're still very attractive given the core players we have here grabbing one down year but this is more like 2020 or 2015 and it's not gonna be a long one they know it now if we were going for the long haul if we had the need for starting completely over blowing it up from the bottom then you get a young coach and then they can have two or three years to try to start building this up through the draft and some free agency but they would have to 1st find their quarterback that's not the position we are in we have that now the window may not seem open because we're going through this process right now it's very painful but I don't see this as a long term thing a really good coaching staff and one nice offseason is that all it will take for us to be right back at double digit wins and fighting for the NFC East that means a veteran coach much like Bill Belichick or Vrabel or someone adjacent to them sees that opportunity...

But again I think you're missing the fact that the way you view Jerry Jones and even though the league understands it there is a very small group but a group that would come here in a heartbeat they have just never been offered the opportunity because Jerry didn't give it to him so you thinking they wouldn't come here only because they haven't is more on Jerry not giving them the opportunity... I hope they don't make that mistake and go for the college ranked guy because that's a long term type deal you have to consider the situation and we need a win now guy just for a couple years...
There’s a difference between being attractive for ratings and being attractive because it’s a great place to work. Yes, the Cowboys have a ratings bonanza but I believe it’s as much because of the “watching a train wreck” factor as anything else. Brand attraction does not equal employment attraction.

Being an attractive destination for a talented, up and coming HC? We haven’t had one of those guys since…Jimmy.
 

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Why should he?? coming from the ranks of college we've seen Myers and Saban and Petrino and Chip Kelly and you could keep listing some of the ones from the NFL that we thought would be good because of their coordinator jobs on a stacked team like Ben Johnson you think he's gonna just come here and recreate all that there's no guarantee why would you Jerry's age wanna take a risk on a young college coach that you thinks like Jimmy Johnson I know you don't think that about the chargers coach he's a retrenched from the NFL that would be something Jerry would do and I would be in agreement but I'll take Vrabel all day long he's a younger version of Bill Belichick I think he did more with less in Tennessee and with this core group with the right staff and the right draft and if you could just get Jerry to open up as well a little more free agency this could be right back on track next year IMHO

and by the way maybe I'm lost and out of touch but why don't you remind me the last hot shot super guy like Jimmy Johnson it came from the ranks of college that literally came into the NFL and.... like i i can't remember the last one...
Last hot shot college HC who did well? Jim Harbaugh. Twice.
 

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Head Coach is very important for culture etc but arguably appointing the correct defensive coordinator and offensive coordinator is as if not more important.

Eagles present a case in point. They have a bit of a clown as Head Coach but what matters this season is that they nailed the defensive and offensive coordinators which has addressed many of their issues from last season even with the said clown still as HC.

Washington nailed their offensive coordinator and have reaped the rewards.

With that being said I do think Dan Quinn was the right person to take over as the Cowboys Head Coach. The players seemed to love him and would run through brick walls for him. You can also sense that from his short time at Washington. Too many are hung up from the Packers' play off game when there were plenty of issues including injuries, the defense and an impotent offense which put a defense that was built to play from infront behind the 8 ball early on.
 

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I don't think Bill is the right answer, but I will take him any day over what I think will happen - Mike Zimmer is the next HC, or Garrett is brought back, or a former Cowboy with no coaching experience who gets to train on the job.
Lol,
Zimmer?
After this cluster… of a defensive showing. If Jerry was considering Zimmer he would most likely have eaten some of his ego and installed him by now. My guess Jerry wants to at least go back to the fun defense where they were sacking the QB, creating pressure and forcing interceptions. Can’t see him wanting to see another year impotent futility. My guess is the next coach regardless of offense or defense is going to have experience working with 43 under defense coaches and express in interviews that’s the direction they’d go!
 

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There’s a difference between being attractive for ratings and being attractive because it’s a great place to work. Yes, the Cowboys have a ratings bonanza but I believe it’s as much because of the “watching a train wreck” factor as anything else. Brand attraction does not equal employment attraction.

Being an attractive destination for a talented, up and coming HC? We haven’t had one of those guys since…Jimmy.
No I'm saying it's attractive because of our core players in place,

I think everybody's living in the moment this team did not fall off a Cliff overnight,

the coaching staff could not overcome the injuries, they didn't do a good job with the rookies, we're watching it in real time and it feels worse than it is IMHO!

we have a group of core players here that makes it attractive.. So you can continue to disagree you know me it's not going to work..​
I see this as an attractive job because we have a window opening where we have a lot of core players at key positions I know people around here are going to judge them from right now what's going on but when you look at it from the outside when you have the quarterback, the wide receiver, some key pieces on the offensive line even though it's going to need some work, you have a great corner or two depending on how bland responds, you have Micah Parsons and overshown, you have Key players on every single area of a team where you want them..​
they're already in place all we need is somebody to come make sure they built the team around those players properly just filled the holes from this last offseason from this season happening right now..​

That's why it's attractive they wouldn't need three years to just rebuild the whole team from the outside people see this as a team that just got through having 312 win seasons in a row been the playoffs 5 out of the last eight years they won two division titles that same core is here this was just a bad year it's much like 2020 or you want to call it 2015..... They do not see this is there need to come in and in three or four years they fail at like building it from scratch because they can't find a quarterback or a corner or a pass rusher it is already here,

I know that people are down on this season so they think we fell off a Cliff it's not an impossible to get back to a double widget team next year with this court that's why it's attractive, I don't know why you keep skipping over that fact that is why it looks good from the outside they can ignore Jerry Jones to take a job with the Dallas Cowboys America's team with enough key pieces here that they can come in with on offseason and be right back in a double digit type situation that's what they see that's my opinion but it's all facts...
 

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