3-4 in the draft

[sonnyboy]

You're the idiot here pal, sorry. You admit a "prototypical" NT is 325, yet you go on and say Ratliff is the ideal NT?

The whole argument was because you claimed Ratliff was a prototypical NT. I said he was not. You just admitted he was not. I win.

Now ****.

Ahhhh no.......... and your still an idiot.

Listen kid, this isn't Canadian football.

If you acually read my posts you know I said my prototypical NT has earned 3 Pro Bowls and 1 All Pro in the last three years.

In other words, my prototypical NT is a great player who has earn those type accolades actually playing the position.

In fact those weren't just my words, they were your own.

You fail.

 

[CanuckCowboysFan]

Ahhhh no.......... and your still an idiot.

Listen kid, this isn't Canadian football.

If you acually read my posts you know I said my prototypical NT has earned 3 Pro Bowls and 1 All Pro in the last three years.

In other words, my prototypical NT is a great player who has earn those type accolades actually playing the position.

In fact those weren't just my words, they were your own.

You fail.

You're, not your. LOL. and I'm the idiot? Oh, the irony. :laugh2:

Listen fool, you said the prototypical NT WAS Ratliff, and even described his traits as being "prototypical", Then you admitted he was not. Just ****. You lost. I feel your pain, even though I was never owned by a guy half my age.

 

[sonnyboy]

You're, not your. LOL. and I'm the idiot? Oh, the irony. :laugh2:

Listen fool, you said the prototypical NT WAS Ratliff, and even described his traits as being "prototypical", Then you admitted he was not. Just ****. You lost. I feel your pain, even though I was never owned by a guy half my age.

Well if you could actually find where I said that then you win.

Since I didn't and you can't. Well if it looks like fail and smells like fail.......

OMT My son is half your age and also thinks your an idiot.

 

[fishspill]

Jeez, why don't you two just kiss and get it over with.

 

[CanuckCowboysFan]

Well if you could actually find where I said that then you win.

Since I didn't and you can't. Well if it looks like fail and smells like fail.......

OMT My son is half your age and also thinks your an idiot.

Throughout the thread I've repeatedly said it, and you don't seem to be agreeing, so what does that mean?

My whole point is Jay Ratliff isn't your prototypical NT. Do you agree or disagree? if you agree then I win, which you are finally admitting to. Fail.

Your son thinks I'm an idiot? I'll take that with a grain of salt. Does he even know his ABC's?

Now that is a classy father. Allowing his 11 year old son to talk like that. Tell your son I feel sorry for him.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'm on board with Phil Taylor... Great size and is quick off the ball for a man his size. 6'4, 340 lbs, now that's a true NT!

 

[sonnyboy]

Throughout the thread I've repeatedly said it, and you don't seem to be agreeing, so what does that mean?

My whole point is Jay Ratliff isn't your prototypical NT. Do you agree or disagree? if you agree then I win, which you are finally admitting to. Fail.

Your son thinks I'm an idiot? I'll take that with a grain of salt. Does he even know his ABC's?

Now that is a classy father. Allowing his 11 year old son to talk like that. Tell your son I feel sorry for him.

Win what? Can you read? Or are you that ****ing stupid.

Ratliff is not your average NT. That's my point! He's better than average. He produces much more, perhaps partly because he's not 330lbs.

Was he 300lbs in 2009 when earned 1st team All-Pro at NT and our defense finished #2 in scoring?

Now all of the sudden because he has an off year (by the high standard he himself set) in the midst of the whole team having an off year, it's because he's not 330lbs.

He's a great player at the NT position.

Move on to a postion of need with your concerns. And perhaps learn a little something about football.

 

[ringmaster]

I'll give you my definition of a prototypical NT considering how critical the position is...........

I want someone strong and quick with some size, perhaps 300lbs plus. But not so big as to limit his quickness and ability to generate a pass rush up the middle.

He also needs to have something of a track record. 4-5 years playing at a high level, but not too old. Maybe 28.

And considering how critical production at NT is, I want someone with some recent skins on the wall......Maybe three ProBowls and at least one All-Pro nomination the past three seasons.

Ya that sounds prototypical to me. Now we just have to go find him.

I see what you're saying in regards to the NT being quick off the ball and we have that with Jay Ratliff.

I was making reference to the NT being impossible to move off the ball when it comes to running plays by opposing offenses and Taylor, from his makeup looks to be exactly the type of body you would want in that scheme.

But as you pointed out the key would be can he be that disruptive force in the middle.

 

[burmafrd]

Small guys get worn down over a season. And at 306 and 6-4 the Rat is a small NT. We really need to get a guy that can take 10-15 snaps a game for the Rat to rest him.

Now a regular fireplug type of NT would do that. And also on the short yardage plays when its all about muscle and mass he would do a better job than the Rat.