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AbeBeta

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I understand that and maybe I'm not communicating myself clearly here and it looks like that.

You can't prevent serious injuries. Those simply are going to happen and there is nothing you can do about that.

However you absolutely can condition your body to be less likely, you can't completely remove them, from taking on as many nagging and smaller injuries.

For example like with MMA. You don't just jump into a cage to fight people, even if you're tried in martial arts, and take body blows for 5 rounds and withstand them. Those guys condition their bodies to take those blows through physical practice. If they didn't do those they'd walk in there and get destroyed by that stuff.

The same goes for the physical nature of football.

You can condition your body to not have bones break? To not have ligaments tear? To not get concussions.

NFL players must have been training in the wrong way forever now. Because if what you say is true, we would be able to wipe out all these things.
 

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I understand that and maybe I'm not communicating myself clearly here and it looks like that.

You can't prevent serious injuries. Those simply are going to happen and there is nothing you can do about that.

However you absolutely can condition your body to be less likely, you can't completely remove them, from taking on as many nagging and smaller injuries.

For example like with MMA. You don't just jump into a cage to fight people, even if you're tried in martial arts, and take body blows for 5 rounds and withstand them. Those guys condition their bodies to take those blows through physical practice. If they didn't do those they'd walk in there and get destroyed by that stuff.

The same goes for the physical nature of football.

Whereas your point about being less prepared is reasonable (although I can't imagine how with 20 games, you don't get enough "live" action in), the idea that practicing more with pads and hitting prevents injuries is ridiculous. There really is no way to legitimately claim that more contact means less injury. This is like suggesting that boxers should spar without any additional padding to get them used to being hit.

I think BraveHeartFan has a reasonable point. If they practice contract, they get accustomed to it. Like sparring, they're not doing it at 100%.
 

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You can condition your body to not have bones break? To not have ligaments tear? To not get concussions.

NFL players must have been training in the wrong way forever now. Because if what you say is true, we would be able to wipe out all these things.

Hmmmmm.....

"You can't prevent serious injuries. Those simply are going to happen and there is nothing you can do about that.

However you absolutely can condition your body to be less likely, you can't completely remove them, from taking on as many nagging and smaller injuries."


I'm assuming either you didn't bother to read this portion of the post you quoted, and then made your snide remark, or you simply can't read. Either way I'm not interested in bothering with a person who either can't read or doesn't bother to read before they quote a post and then make a smart *** remark.
 

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I think BraveHeartFan has a reasonable point. If they practice contract, they get accustomed to it. Like sparring, they're not doing it at 100%.

Yes. They get used to tendons rupturing, ligaments snapping, and bones breaking. Becomes so commonplace that they can just work through it. Right.
 

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Hmmmmm.....

"You can't prevent serious injuries. Those simply are going to happen and there is nothing you can do about that.

However you absolutely can condition your body to be less likely, you can't completely remove them, from taking on as many nagging and smaller injuries."


I'm assuming either you didn't bother to read this portion of the post you quoted, and then made your snide remark, or you simply can't read. Either way I'm not interested in bothering with a person who either can't read or doesn't bother to read before they quote a post and then make a smart *** remark.

No. I did read what you wrote. I just think it is garbage logic. You can certainly condition your body to be less likely to get injured. However, performing the actions that commonly lead to injury over and over again doesn't accomplish that goal.
 

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No. I did read what you wrote. I just think it is garbage logic. You can certainly condition your body to be less likely to get injured. However, performing the actions that commonly lead to injury over and over again doesn't accomplish that goal.

That's cool.

I am not here to change your mind. You're free to believe or think whatever you like.

We just don't agree.

There isn't another conditioning of your body that you do in the gym, or on a tread mill, or running around playing tag, that prepares the body for the physical nature of getting hit, and pounded on. You body only grows more accustom to that through actually being physically beaten on and hitting.

You can run all the wind sprints in shorts that you like it won't make your body more prepare to take a hit. only getting hit prepares your body for getting hit. Otherwise cross country runners would be the best conditioned athletes to take the beating of playing a physical sport like football.
 

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Todays NFL. That's why I dismiss some of these records of todays football players (except for DeMarco of course .... I don't care what kind of rules you institute, what he's doing is epic).

Again, having a debate with my co-worker this morning about Drew Brees and his 5,000 plus yards, etc. etc. I'm probably the only one on the planet who is not impressed with that record. You can't even breath on a QB today.

Let's not talk about what the receivers had to deal with back in the day. These QBs and Receivers of today could not survive or thrive in the NFL of the 70s, 80s & 90s. I could name a handful that could. Let's begin with 9, 82, & 88 :star:

I would agree with those three and add in 29, 77,72,70,55,42,32,17. All badasses who take and dish the pain well
 

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That's cool.

I am not here to change your mind. You're free to believe or think whatever you like.

We just don't agree.

There isn't another conditioning of your body that you do in the gym, or on a tread mill, or running around playing tag, that prepares the body for the physical nature of getting hit, and pounded on. You body only grows more accustom to that through actually being physically beaten on and hitting.

You can run all the wind sprints in shorts that you like it won't make your body more prepare to take a hit. only getting hit prepares your body for getting hit. Otherwise cross country runners would be the best conditioned athletes to take the beating of playing a physical sport like football.

What you seem to not be considering is that they do play a game every week. They get beat up on a weekly basis. MMA fighters dont fight every week. Boxers dont box every week.

No one is disagreeing with you that football players have a certain conditioning level that they need to ger to that can only really be achieved by physical contact. But thats what the preseason is for. Once they start playing games that extra day of full contact during the week isnt needed. The exception I would make is during the bye week. A full padded practice or two even should be used to replace the actual game that they wont be playing.
 
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Just for information, there is a team in MN called St. Johns that never practiced in pads and won an enormous number of titles year after year!
 
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