CFZ 3 Pivotal mistakes by Jerry

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In today's thread, I'm going to examine 3 decisions that were made by Jerry that, compounded with each other, has, imo, led us to where we are now. These are mistakes that changed us from a dominant team to what we are now. I'm not going to include Jimmy as that's been discussed ad nauseam. Instead, I'm going to examine three other mistakes that, between 1998-2000, practically destroyed the Cowboys. I'm going to go in year order with this. I was a new fan in 2000, but this is based on what I've read and based on what could've changed our fortunes. Additionally, these are examples that also show the poor future planning of Jerry.

  1. In 1998, we drafted Greg Ellis instead of Randy Moss. While Ellis was a very good player for us, we should have gotten Moss. This is an example of poor planning in my view because Irvin was going into his 10th season at the time at an age in which players didn't often play long. So, Moss could've been a nice successor to Irvin when he retired. Also, those two together would've been dynamic and could have led to more Lombardis. It seems to me, as a young fan, that this was the moment in which Jerry lost his mojo, and he's never gotten it back. It was at this moment he's been craving great WRs to try to expunge this massive mistake.
  2. Trading for Joey Galloway - in an effort to try to make up for the mistake of not getting Moss and the recent retirement of Irvin, Jerry made a baffling trade to the Seahawks, in which two firsts were swapped for Joey Galloway. This was likely a panic move that wouldn't have been needed had Jerry planned adequately. It set into motion missing out on some truly great players such as, perhaps, Shaun Alexander who the Seahawks chose who could've been a nice eventual replacement for Emmitt, Nate Clements, who could've replaced Deion at CB, and others.
  3. Missing out on Tom Brady - okay, nobody knew Brady was going to be what he is, but I think it's probably safe to say that Jerry missed by not taking him later in the 2000 draft. I'm not saying he should've been the first pick. But, we could have had him in the 6thnround when we took Mario Edwards instead. It shows poor planning, imo, because Aikman was going into his 11th season, and he had missed 5 games in 1998. Therefore, it'd have been smart to have drafted Brady in round 6 to try to develop a QB. I'm not saying he'd have been the Brady we know due to Belichick, but he probably would've been a top QB nonetheless.
I think these are 3 Pivotal mistakes in 3 years that Jerry made that changed the course of the Cowboys from the dominant kings of the League at the time to what we are now. I think these are mistakes that haunt Jerry, and, had he made these moves, he might've actually gotten what he wanted. Instead, he's been scrambling like a chicken without a head since.
 
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Jerry has traded away a fair number of 1st round picks over the years for WRs -> Galloway, Roy Williams, Amari Cooper.

In general those picks could have been better used. Cooper at least gave them 3 good years, however, trading away 1st round picks is no small thing.
 
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perrykemp said:
Jerry has traded away a fair number of 1st round picks over the years for WRs -> Galloway, Roy Williams, Amari Cooper.

In general those picks could have been better used. Cooper at least gave them 3 good years, however, trading away 1st round picks is no small thing.
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I agree. Those others are massive. We could've built so much more if we had those.

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Only 3 pivotal mistakes in 27 years is being overly kind.
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I'm focusing, in particular, with 3 years, as I mentioned in the OP. I'd have to write an absolute novel if I went over all the mistakes. I'm just going, for now, with these three as I think that the end of the 90s and 2000 is where Jerry lost his marbles and hasn't gotten them back.
 
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RustyBourneHorse said:
In today's thread, I'm going to examine 3 decisions that were made by Jerry that, compounded with each other, has, imo, led us to where we are now. These are mistakes that changed us from a dominant team to what we are now. I'm not going to include Jimmy as that's been discussed ad nauseam. Instead, I'm going to examine three other mistakes that, between 1998-2000, practically destroyed the Cowboys. I'm going to go in year order with this. I was a new fan in 2000, but this is based on what I've read and based on what could've changed our fortunes. Additionally, these are examples that also show the poor future planning of Jerry.

  1. In 1998, we drafted Greg Ellis instead of Randy Moss. While Ellis was a very good player for us, we should have gotten Moss. This is an example of poor planning in my view because Irvin was going into his 10th season at the time at an age in which players didn't often play long. So, Moss could've been a nice successor to Irvin when he retired. Also, those two together would've been dynamic and could have led to more Lombardis. It seems to me, as a young fan, that this was the moment in which Jerry lost his mojo, and he's never gotten it back. It was at this moment he's been craving great WRs to try to expunge this massive mistake.
  2. Trading for Joey Galloway - in an effort to try to make up for the mistake of not getting Moss and the recent retirement of Irvin, Jerry made a baffling trade to the Seahawks, in which two firsts were swapped for Joey Galloway. This was likely a panic move that wouldn't have been needed had Jerry planned adequately. It set into motion missing out on some truly great players such as, perhaps, Shaun Alexander who the Seahawks chose who could've been a nice eventual replacement for Emmitt, Nate Clements, who could've replaced Deion at CB, and others.
  3. Missing out on Tom Brady - okay, nobody knew Brady was going to be what he is, but I think it's probably safe to say that Jerry missed by not taking him later in the 2000 draft. I'm not saying he should've been the first pick. But, we could have had him in the 6thnround when we took Mario Edwards instead. It shows poor planning, imo, because Aikman was going into his 11th season, and he had missed 5 games in 1998. Therefore, it'd have been smart to have drafted Brady in round 6 to try to develop a QB. I'm not saying he'd have been the Brady we know due to Belichick, but he probably would've been a top QB nonetheless.
I think these are 3 Pivotal mistakes in 3 years that Jerry made that changed the course of the Cowboys from the dominant kings of the League at the time to what we are now. I think these are mistakes that haunt Jerry, and, had he made these moves, he might've actually gotten what he wanted. Instead, he's been scrambling like a chicken without a head since.
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Only 3?

I can pick 3 pivotal mistakes from THIS off-season alone.
 
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Maybe Joey Galloway but the others you really have no case on unless you are pointing at most all the other GM's in the league as well.

You could have made a much better list!

1. Battle with Jimmy Johnson- that should be the start of any list!
 
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phildadon86 said:
Only 3?

I can pick 3 pivotal mistakes from THIS off-season alone.
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Haha, I'm trying to focus on 3 years with this in particular.

aikemirv said:
Maybe Joey Galloway but the others you really have no case on unless you are pointing at most all the other GM's in the league as well.

You could have made a much better list!

1. Battle with Jimmy Johnson- that should be the start of any list!
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I think Randy Moss is also a massive mistake that Jerry made that I think it's fairly clear was an error. I know why teams were hesitant about Moss. However, given the circumstances and given the need for an extra WR, I included Moss. Additionally, I think the Moss pick is where Jerry lost his mojo. I think that's the spot where he made a massive mistake, and it eventually compounded. I suppose another mistake would be, instead of Brady, not taking Brees the next year which, had he not surrendered the first, Brees could have been ours.
 
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Wow, just realized that Aikman was still in the league when Brady was drafted. That's unreal.
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Exactly, he was in his last year. Which is one of the reasons I mentioned that. Obviously, Jerry's made a ton of mistakes over the last 27 years. However, I think just focusing between 1998-2000, these would be 3 mistakes that completely altered the course of Cowboys history and league history. Oh, and the balance of power in the NFC East as it led to the surge that the Eagles had from 2000 - 2004. Essentially, not only did these mistakes change our history, but it made the Eagles a threat when they'd hardly ever been a threat.
 
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RustyBourneHorse said:
In today's thread, I'm going to examine 3 decisions that were made by Jerry that, compounded with each other, has, imo, led us to where we are now. These are mistakes that changed us from a dominant team to what we are now. I'm not going to include Jimmy as that's been discussed ad nauseam. Instead, I'm going to examine three other mistakes that, between 1998-2000, practically destroyed the Cowboys. I'm going to go in year order with this. I was a new fan in 2000, but this is based on what I've read and based on what could've changed our fortunes. Additionally, these are examples that also show the poor future planning of Jerry.

  1. In 1998, we drafted Greg Ellis instead of Randy Moss. While Ellis was a very good player for us, we should have gotten Moss. This is an example of poor planning in my view because Irvin was going into his 10th season at the time at an age in which players didn't often play long. So, Moss could've been a nice successor to Irvin when he retired. Also, those two together would've been dynamic and could have led to more Lombardis. It seems to me, as a young fan, that this was the moment in which Jerry lost his mojo, and he's never gotten it back. It was at this moment he's been craving great WRs to try to expunge this massive mistake.
  2. Trading for Joey Galloway - in an effort to try to make up for the mistake of not getting Moss and the recent retirement of Irvin, Jerry made a baffling trade to the Seahawks, in which two firsts were swapped for Joey Galloway. This was likely a panic move that wouldn't have been needed had Jerry planned adequately. It set into motion missing out on some truly great players such as, perhaps, Shaun Alexander who the Seahawks chose who could've been a nice eventual replacement for Emmitt, Nate Clements, who could've replaced Deion at CB, and others.
  3. Missing out on Tom Brady - okay, nobody knew Brady was going to be what he is, but I think it's probably safe to say that Jerry missed by not taking him later in the 2000 draft. I'm not saying he should've been the first pick. But, we could have had him in the 6thnround when we took Mario Edwards instead. It shows poor planning, imo, because Aikman was going into his 11th season, and he had missed 5 games in 1998. Therefore, it'd have been smart to have drafted Brady in round 6 to try to develop a QB. I'm not saying he'd have been the Brady we know due to Belichick, but he probably would've been a top QB nonetheless.
I think these are 3 Pivotal mistakes in 3 years that Jerry made that changed the course of the Cowboys from the dominant kings of the League at the time to what we are now. I think these are mistakes that haunt Jerry, and, had he made these moves, he might've actually gotten what he wanted. Instead, he's been scrambling like a chicken without a head since.
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1998? Lol
 
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RustyBourneHorse said:
In today's thread, I'm going to examine 3 decisions that were made by Jerry that, compounded with each other, has, imo, led us to where we are now. These are mistakes that changed us from a dominant team to what we are now. I'm not going to include Jimmy as that's been discussed ad nauseam. Instead, I'm going to examine three other mistakes that, between 1998-2000, practically destroyed the Cowboys. I'm going to go in year order with this. I was a new fan in 2000, but this is based on what I've read and based on what could've changed our fortunes. Additionally, these are examples that also show the poor future planning of Jerry.

  1. In 1998, we drafted Greg Ellis instead of Randy Moss. While Ellis was a very good player for us, we should have gotten Moss. This is an example of poor planning in my view because Irvin was going into his 10th season at the time at an age in which players didn't often play long. So, Moss could've been a nice successor to Irvin when he retired. Also, those two together would've been dynamic and could have led to more Lombardis. It seems to me, as a young fan, that this was the moment in which Jerry lost his mojo, and he's never gotten it back. It was at this moment he's been craving great WRs to try to expunge this massive mistake.
  2. Trading for Joey Galloway - in an effort to try to make up for the mistake of not getting Moss and the recent retirement of Irvin, Jerry made a baffling trade to the Seahawks, in which two firsts were swapped for Joey Galloway. This was likely a panic move that wouldn't have been needed had Jerry planned adequately. It set into motion missing out on some truly great players such as, perhaps, Shaun Alexander who the Seahawks chose who could've been a nice eventual replacement for Emmitt, Nate Clements, who could've replaced Deion at CB, and others.
  3. Missing out on Tom Brady - okay, nobody knew Brady was going to be what he is, but I think it's probably safe to say that Jerry missed by not taking him later in the 2000 draft. I'm not saying he should've been the first pick. But, we could have had him in the 6thnround when we took Mario Edwards instead. It shows poor planning, imo, because Aikman was going into his 11th season, and he had missed 5 games in 1998. Therefore, it'd have been smart to have drafted Brady in round 6 to try to develop a QB. I'm not saying he'd have been the Brady we know due to Belichick, but he probably would've been a top QB nonetheless.
I think these are 3 Pivotal mistakes in 3 years that Jerry made that changed the course of the Cowboys from the dominant kings of the League at the time to what we are now. I think these are mistakes that haunt Jerry, and, had he made these moves, he might've actually gotten what he wanted. Instead, he's been scrambling like a chicken without a head since.
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This should be in the Overtime forum
 
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RustyBourneHorse said:
In today's thread, I'm going to examine 3 decisions that were made by Jerry that, compounded with each other, has, imo, led us to where we are now. These are mistakes that changed us from a dominant team to what we are now. I'm not going to include Jimmy as that's been discussed ad nauseam. Instead, I'm going to examine three other mistakes that, between 1998-2000, practically destroyed the Cowboys. I'm going to go in year order with this. I was a new fan in 2000, but this is based on what I've read and based on what could've changed our fortunes. Additionally, these are examples that also show the poor future planning of Jerry.

  1. In 1998, we drafted Greg Ellis instead of Randy Moss. While Ellis was a very good player for us, we should have gotten Moss. This is an example of poor planning in my view because Irvin was going into his 10th season at the time at an age in which players didn't often play long. So, Moss could've been a nice successor to Irvin when he retired. Also, those two together would've been dynamic and could have led to more Lombardis. It seems to me, as a young fan, that this was the moment in which Jerry lost his mojo, and he's never gotten it back. It was at this moment he's been craving great WRs to try to expunge this massive mistake.
  2. Trading for Joey Galloway - in an effort to try to make up for the mistake of not getting Moss and the recent retirement of Irvin, Jerry made a baffling trade to the Seahawks, in which two firsts were swapped for Joey Galloway. This was likely a panic move that wouldn't have been needed had Jerry planned adequately. It set into motion missing out on some truly great players such as, perhaps, Shaun Alexander who the Seahawks chose who could've been a nice eventual replacement for Emmitt, Nate Clements, who could've replaced Deion at CB, and others.
  3. Missing out on Tom Brady - okay, nobody knew Brady was going to be what he is, but I think it's probably safe to say that Jerry missed by not taking him later in the 2000 draft. I'm not saying he should've been the first pick. But, we could have had him in the 6thnround when we took Mario Edwards instead. It shows poor planning, imo, because Aikman was going into his 11th season, and he had missed 5 games in 1998. Therefore, it'd have been smart to have drafted Brady in round 6 to try to develop a QB. I'm not saying he'd have been the Brady we know due to Belichick, but he probably would've been a top QB nonetheless.
I think these are 3 Pivotal mistakes in 3 years that Jerry made that changed the course of the Cowboys from the dominant kings of the League at the time to what we are now. I think these are mistakes that haunt Jerry, and, had he made these moves, he might've actually gotten what he wanted. Instead, he's been scrambling like a chicken without a head since.
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I think deeper than those issues
Is the fact he insist on making major football decisions
When he has proven he does not have the ability to be successful at it.
 
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1998? Lol
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I'm particularly focusing on the three years because I think those were among the most pivotal mistakes that, compounded with each other, led to where we are now, along with the balance of power in the NFC East being shifted from us when it should really have been us in charge for a longer period of time had Jerry had the planning necessary to change those. I think it's also relevant here because it shows the history of poor planning on the part of Jerry. This has been once again showed this offseason. It shows he hasn't learned that important lesson. He hasn't learned how to plan for disasters.
 
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