3 Reasons why Duece could have a breakout season!

Deuce was the 212th pick of the draft. A late 6th rounder. On the other hand, the very first pick of the 6th round, pick 178 the Cowboys selected Eric Scott. That wasn't their pick originally, they traded up to select him. The Cowboys traded a fifth-round selection in the 2024 NFL draft to select Scott. So they used 2 picks to get him.........and you never (and I mean EVER) hear a peep about that massive screw up. 2 picks for a player taken over 40 picks BEFORE Deuce.
Is Eric still on the team? No? Oh, that is right, they cut him. I am pretty sure if Deuce was cut there would not be anyone "complaining" about him right now, the same as they are not complaining about Scott since he is no longer on the team. They realized they made a mistake with Scott and released him. Was it a mistake? Sure (at least where the Cowboys are involved by using two picks for him). Are they continuing the mistake and not trying to see if they can bring in someone better to fit their needs? Nope.

I can see where you are coming from, but honestly, this comparison is about as incomparable as it could be. Both are not still on the team not contributing much, are they? Now you can say that Deuce is not getting used correctly or hasn't been given the opportunity. Could the same not be said for Scott as well? Both showed promise in preseason games. And Vaughn has been given a lot more opportunities than Scott ever was in the regular season.

You cannot understand the "hate" for Deuce, while many here cannot understand all the underserved love for a 6th round pick that others want to lavish on him. I am willing to bet if he was cut he would, at best, be in the exact same spot as Scott at this point, on someone's practice squad.

I hear about how great he was in college when talking about what he can do in the NFL. You know who else did great in college? Ki-Jana Carter, Lawrence Phillips, Curtis Enis, D.J. Dozier, Rashaan Salaam, Tim Biakabutuka... The list goes on and on. College success does not mean guaranteed pro success, especially from a late 6th-round pick (there was a reason, more often than not, someone was available at pick 212 in the first place).

It's pretty clear some of the hate directed at the totally mismanaged 212th pick should be directed somewhere else.
Change the word hate to love and the statement remains the same. (for others on this board).
 
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I still have no doubt he can run the ball. The question is, does his size make him incapable of pass blocking (and to some degree playing special teams).

McCarthy seemed to think so. I'm hoping he's not actually incapable, but Mike just had a size bias against him... which is very possible.

It also didn't help that our lunatic owner forced his pet cat RB who also didn't play special teams on the coach. You can't forget that factor when deciding the game day active RBs. Just another reason Jerry bringing Zeke back was a disaster.
 
Ok so you consider most late round picks as misses unless you get lucky? I can live with that assertion

Duece will never amount to jack squat
I mean isn’t that the case? Aren’t most late round guys misses? With Deuce I know people think weirdly he is here because of nepotism but that’s because a lot of people weren’t familiar with his college career. The guy was a productive college player. Now I think his size hinders him but some are of the belief he’s not being used correctly. It was worth the shot seeing if he could do something for us.
 
Is the RB everyone is slobbering over for this draft, Jeanty, just a bit bigger than Deuce? (don't take that as serious as it sounds).
Didn't Deuce have a lot of yards in college as well. As Jeanty who was possibly over used in college. The same way some said Zeke was over used.

A lot of miles coming into the NFL. It is like buying a dealers demonstrator car as a new car. Still a lot of miles.

Maybe Deuce can help with he new coaching staff putting him in the right situation. No, I am not saying he would start over Jeanty.
Just bringing up a discrepancy in what fans like in players. You know, the apples and oranges concept, but yet in some way still makes some sense.
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oh people need to stop with his former coach is here and now he is going to turn into a superman narrative. this is NFL. its a different beast and he is what he is, an undersized, not so fast and has difficult getting yards type of player. he is limited. there is nothing wrong with that. NFL is littered with limited players. he was a feel good story to get drafted. kudo's to him for working so hard and making it this far. let this feel good story end. he is not going to mount for much. there are 100s of undersized players like him who went unnoticed in the NFL....there is one or two we hear about who were good, average and we are all here wishing and dreaming Duece is that.

let it go. he is not worth it. he is not a difference maker. he is way below average and there is nothing wrong with any of those. we need to let him walk and find a replacement.
 
I think we have seen enough of Deuce. I was looking at his combine profile before he was drafted. It's the weaknesses that stuck out to me. He does have a long stride for a short guy and I think it limits his speed in the NFL. He may have been fast enough in college but in the pros everyone is fast. I have nothing against the kid, and drafting him was a feel good story for Dallas. But he has a lot to overcome in the NFL no matter how hard he works. I wonder if they were able to work on shortening his stride, if it would make him quicker in an out of cuts.

Strengths
  • Productive as ball-carrier and pass-catcher.
  • Displayed his durability, carrying heavy workload.
  • Elusive to sidestep early penetration.
  • Comfortable navigating through tight creases.
  • Able to bend and cut at crisp angles.
  • Low center of gravity bolsters contact balance.
  • Capable of running routes from the slot in empty sets.
Weaknesses
  • Measurables fall well below NFL norm at the position.
  • Takes runs off track unnecessarily at times.
  • Needs to be quicker through the line in the pros.
  • Runs with unusually long strides for a short back.
  • Struggles to find instant acceleration after tapping brakes.
  • Not built for blitz pickups.
 
I’m not a huge fan. But the kid has speed.
He has talent and with good blocking could be productive.

However, that's true of a lot of players who also aren't as limited by their size. If he's the only back in the formation, the defense has the advantage of knowing his limitations & thus the plays that are likely. He's also a solid tackle away from being on IR.

If he's on the team this fall, it would seem to indicate a horrible failure of addressing the RB group during the offseason.
 
He needs to be schemed out into space, and balls need to be delivered timely, and in a spot that gives him good upfield direction and momentum. That can't be counted on.

His quickness and agility are much less effective now than when going up against college teams.
Goes down too easy
 
While his combine measurements are similar to Darren Sproles, it hasn't translated to the field. Blame what you will, coaching, usage, etc or maybe the kid doesn't want to play in the NFL at all. If a change in offensive philosophy doesn't help, a change of scenery may. I just don't see it happening in dallas.
 
If Vaughn is going to contribute this will be his best chance. I dont think the prior staff had any idea how to use Vaughn giving him a carry here and there and then not playing him again.

They needed to get him screens in open space, misdirection runs, and outside runs. Instead they gave him Zeke runs.
Just look at his college tape. See what he did great and not so great and integrate appropriately. His old ball coach should be able to do that. He shouldn't be here, nepo baby.... you are entitled to your opinion. I think he does belong here. He has not been used much at all and in no way used to his strengths. Let's get the ball rolling for the Deuce!!!!!
 
Had McCarthy stayed Deuce would have been cut and his chances of making the team next season is still slim. He’s been a wasted roster spot for two seasons. We’ll see if this staff has a plan for him.
The wasted spot was Zeke.
 

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