30 Points+ a Game?

[IceBowler]

Not with the receiving corps we have right now.

Am I the only one noticing how little separation our guys get for the majority of the game? Then, of course, there are the all too familiar drops .. in the most crucial times, I might add.

Dak has never shown the ability to "throw a receiver open." He must see them open, which necessitates him holding the ball longer and being under pressure - which leads to sacks and turnovers.

Dak does not read defenses well - for whatever reason, and that in itself is a terrible hinderance. He also doesn't run anymore, which was his "separator" all through college and early pro career.

Throwing it 40 times a game cuts into the recently successful "Run 1st" policy Dallas has been employing lately. The 2-headed snake of Zeke/Pollard is racking up yardage and beating up D-lines. We don't need a back to get 150 yards per game - but we do need our backs to put up 150.

 

[Dallasfann]

I know with certainty that CeeDee Lamb will lose a game for the Cowboys this year due to a key drop late in a game. I am just praying it's a regular season game.

 

[jwooten15]

The NFL is a league that requires anticipation and confidence to throw in tight windows.

If you have a QB that requires tons of separation and wide-open throwing windows, your team isn't going to succeed.

That is what worries me most about Dak. He hesitates and goes braindead unless there's an obvious throwing lane.

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

I know with certainty the CeeDee Lamb will lose a game for the Cowboys this year due to a key drop late in a game. I am just praying it's a regular season game.

He arguably lost the Bucs game already. He dropped a couple of crucial receptions that could’ve changed the trajectory of the game.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Well for starters Dak would not have been in the NFL this long if he could not read a defense. Remember how defenses constantly blitzed Dak the first half of last season? Well why do teams blitz in the first place? It's to get the ball out of the QB's hands quickly so he doesn't have time to sit back there and pick a team apart. Can a QB that cannot read a defense do that?

Now we get to the second half struggles of 2021. Part of it was Dak's leg injury, part of it was the offensive line did not play well from November on, another part of it was Kellen Moore not adapting his playcalling once defenses stopped blitzing and started playing coverage. The Cowboys could not run the ball to get them out of it, Moore stubbornly kept trying the same things, and Dak, while not without fault himself, fell on the sword.

Hopefully things change once Dak comes back. Just keep the Rush offense in there, sprinkling in some aspects of what Dak does best, and let the defense do the rest.

 

[Dallasfann]

The NFL is a league that requires anticipation and confidence to throw in tight windows.

If you have a QB that requires tons of separation and wide-open throwing windows, your team isn't going to succeed.

That is what worries me most about Dak. He hesitates and goes braindead unless there's an obvious throwing lane.

This is the one take away from watching Cooper that I wish Dak had. That throw Coop made to Gallup yesterday that Gallup dropped was a prime example. It was 3rd down I believe and Rush felt pressure and threw it to a spot that Gallup wasn't even close to yet. Dak never makes that throw.

 

[jwooten15]

Well for starters Dak would not have been in the NFL this long if he could not read a defense. Remember how defenses constantly blitzed Dak the first half of last season? Well why do teams blitz in the first place? It's to get the ball out of the QB's hands quickly so he doesn't have time to sit back there and pick a team apart. Can a QB that cannot read a defense do that?

Now we get to the second half struggles of 2021. Part of it was Dak's leg injury, part of it was the offensive line did not play well from November on, another part of it was Kellen Moore not adapting his playcalling once defenses stopped blitzing and started playing coverage. The Cowboys could not run the ball to get them out of it, Moore stubbornly kept trying the same things, and Dak, while not without fault himself, fell on the sword.

Hopefully things change once Dak comes back. Just keep the Rush offense in there, sprinkling in some aspects of what Dak does best, and let the defense do the rest.

Dak struggles in reading a disguised zone defense; especially when they show man pre-snap, then drop back into a hybrid zone.

Defenses don't send crazy blitzes anymore because the blueprint is out and Dak's inability to process those disguised looks is now common knowledge.

So you're partly right in the fact that Dak is able to read certain defenses. But others cause him to become a deer-in-headlights.

 

[jwooten15]

This is the one take away from watching Cooper that I wish Dak had. That throw Coop made to Gallup yesterday that Gallup dropped was a prime example. It was 3rd down I believe and Rush felt pressure and threw it to a spot that Gallup wasn't even close to yet. Dak never makes that throw.

100%, man. Rush is strong in the pocket, even when he's surrounded by pressure.

And Rush is sure of his reads and sure of his release. He let's it go and trusts his guys to make a play.

Dak doesn't ever do that. You can literally see him trying to process what he's seeing and by the time he sees someone open, it's too late.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dak struggles in reading a disguised zone defense; especially when they show man pre-snap, then drop back into a hybrid zone.

Defenses don't send crazy blitzes anymore because the blueprint is out and Dak's inability to process those disguised looks is now common knowledge.

So you're partly right in the fact that Dak is able to read certain defenses. But others cause him to become a deer-in-headlights.

I just find it hard to believe it took seven years for NFL defensive coordinators to figure this out about Dak. I think he just played poorly down the stretch last year because he was in a slump, not because there was some magical solution discovered.

 

[jwooten15]

I just find it hard to believe it took seven years for NFL defensive coordinators to figure this out about Dak. I think he just played poorly down the stretch last year because he was in a slump, not because there was some magical solution discovered.

It really is strange because it seems he's regressed in some ways.

I hope you're right though! I don't necessarily agree there, but it sure would be fun to see Dak come back and start playing like early 2021 Dak. This team could be scary if that's the case.

 

[Dallasfann]

100%, man. Rush is strong in the pocket, even when he's surrounded by pressure.

And Rush is sure of his reads and sure of his release. He let's it go and trusts his guys to make a play.

Dak doesn't ever do that. You can literally see him trying to process what he's seeing and by the time he sees someone open, it's too late.

It's crazy to me how true this is and if we see it I would hope a coach does, but Coop definitely trusts his reads way more then Dak. I've always said I think Rush is just better at reading a defense. I don't think Dak is very good at understanding certain things defenses are doing. I would never argue who has the better arm because Dak can sling some missiles but it's been proven plenty of times that you don't need a super star QB to win rings. Hell Tom Brady's was basically a Cooper Rush in his first 2 SB wins with top tier talent on defense.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I know with certainty that CeeDee Lamb will lose a game for the Cowboys this year due to a key drop late in a game. I am just praying it's a regular season game.

Offer proof today you know with certainty 88 will be the cause of a game being lost.

Don't wait until later in the season if it happens.

You do not know with certainty. That is just an opinion based on a subjective point of view.

So throw down, Big Time, and educate the class on your certainty and how 88 will lose a game.

Chest beating projections on a message board is akin to a kid yelling, "My Daddy can beat up your Daddy."

Unless the bragger is the son of Mike Tyson, the rest is whistling past the graveyard.

 

[mrmojo]

Offer proof today you know with certainty 88 will be the cause of a game being lost.

Don't wait until later in the season if it happens.

You do not know with certainty. That is just an opinion based on a subjective point of view.

So throw down, Big Time, and educate the class on your certainty and how 88 will lose a game.

Chest beating projections on a message board is akin to a kid yelling, "My Daddy can beat up your Daddy."

Unless the bragger is the son of Mike Tyson, the rest is whistling past the graveyard.

Is this Cee Dee?

 

[Dallasfann]

Offer proof today you know with certainty 88 will be the cause of a game being lost.

Don't wait until later in the season if it happens.

You do not know with certainty. That is just an opinion based on a subjective point of view.

So throw down, Big Time, and educate the class on your certainty and how 88 will lose a game.

Chest beating projections on a message board is akin to a kid yelling, "My Daddy can beat up your Daddy."

Unless the bragger is the son of Mike Tyson, the rest is whistling past the graveyard.

CeeDee will lose us a game this year because of a bad drop. I don't think that's a real bold statement or anything. CeeDee Lamb wasn't even in the top 20 in targets in 2021 but was 4th in drops. Dude drops passes...like a lot and he tends to do it in big moments in games. Still love him as our #2 wide out though.

 

[JD_KaPow]

This is the one take away from watching Cooper that I wish Dak had. That throw Coop made to Gallup yesterday that Gallup dropped was a prime example. It was 3rd down I believe and Rush felt pressure and threw it to a spot that Gallup wasn't even close to yet. Dak never makes that throw.

People around here have the memories of fruitflies.

 

[TwoDeep3]

CeeDee will lose us a game this year because of a bad drop. I don't think that's a real bold statement or anything. CeeDee Lamb wasn't even in the top 20 in targets in 2021 but was 4th in drops. Dude drops passes...like a lot and he tends to do it in big moments in games. Still love him as our #2 wide out though.

Prediction is one thing. Boasting with certainty is another.

 

[Dallasfann]

People around here have the memories of fruitflies.

Haha I may be over exaggerating a bit about it but truthfully, I'm not even that big of a Dak hater. I don't think he is that great but I do like him more the Rush and think he should be the starter when healthy, but the drop off from Dak to Rush is way smaller then a lot of people realize not just on this board but across the NFL. Cooper reads a defense and takes what they give and I think Dak can be fed into a false read. Daks bad games are BAAAAD. Coopers just a meh QB with no real bad games and no great games. He is a literal bus driver and sadly, that's all this defense needs to win. I still believe Dak is the starter though, but boy is the pressure raised a few notches for him.

 

[Dallasfann]

Prediction is one thing. Boasting with certainty is another.

So what do you call it when the certainty comes true? Is it still boasting? Luck? Luckily boasting with certainty? Call it what you will, but my chances are high it happens. I'm not taking pride in my boasting certainty take. I just know it will happen. Vicki Vallencourt wasn't pompous in her prediction of the end of the mud bowl but she got that right. Sometimes people just know. This is one of those situations.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Luckily boasting

 

[Dallasfann]

You're two deep for me on this one. Either way, he gonna be a major reason we lose a game because of a critical drop late in the 4th quarter this year.