4-3 Mock

[reddyuta]

Just for conversation sake, what about it makes it terrible?

I am against drafting a RB in the top 5 and all indications are that the cowboys feel the same.why give a rookie RB over 5 million guaranteed money when we have 2 capable RBs already?.there is talk of Smith going undrafted,i dont think that will be the case but RD 2 is ridiculously a huge unwarranted risk especially if you are in a win now mode.Rd 3 is where i think the cowboys will draft a WR or Dt so i am ok with Miller there but Prescott is no better than Tebow to me.

 

[funkytown]

Ive always been a member of the theory that suggests you dont need a 1st rounder or a superstar at RB to win. Look at the Patriots and look at other teams who have won lately, they have no names at RB. So I see your point on Elliot. I just see the opportunity to draft the most dynamic offensive player in the draft. Our offense was anemic last year, yes partly due to Romo and Dez being out. But Elliot would add a spark, a weapon that we don't have

 

[funkytown]

I am against drafting a RB in the top 5 and all indications are that the cowboys feel the same.why give a rookie RB over 5 million guaranteed money when we have 2 capable RBs already?.there is talk of Smith going undrafted,i dont think that will be the case but RD 2 is ridiculously a huge unwarranted risk especially if you are in a win now mode.Rd 3 is where i think the cowboys will draft a WR or Dt so i am ok with Miller there but Prescott is no better than Tebow to me.

I see your point on the guaranteed money and 2 capable RBs. But they have to like the guy if they are flying him in for a visit. And they have already worked him out on more than 1 occasion.

He has the potential to be the biggest playmaker and difference maker in the draft, especially on the offensive end. Don't take him and watch the Eagles or Giants take him. I don't want to see that happen.

 

[btcutter]

Don't think I could put into words how much I would hate this draft.

RB
Injured LB
WR
Crappy QB

No DE? CB? S? Those first 4 rounds would have me out on the ledge...

Agreed. This team does not have the luxury of taking flier and hope injured players make full recoveries. Nerve damage is not the same as ACL, bone fractures etc. Completely unpredictable. Gurley's injury is not the same. We are talking about completely out of football type injury.

We need CB, DE, DT and S help.....NOW

 

[reddyuta]

I see your point on the guaranteed money and 2 capable RBs. But they have to like the guy if they are flying him in for a visit. And they have already worked him out on more than 1 occasion.

He has the potential to be the biggest playmaker and difference maker in the draft, especially on the offensive end. Don't take him and watch the Eagles or Giants take him. I don't want to see that happen.

I think they are covering all bases,they are bringing in a lot of guys who will be targets if we trade down like EE,Rankins,Lawson and even lynch.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Actually it's not just based on my point of view. You may not like the pick and may can justify not taking Elliott. But I am taking him because there are not 28 first rounders better than him.

Oh I agree that there aren't 28 first rounders better than him, but if there are 5, than that means that at #4 there are 3 guys you can choose from, which puts the chance of him being the pick at much less than 50%

 

[RS12]

really? they got the 2nd best WR in the conference,not sure they need another first RD wr.If anything they should go with the bigger Doctson.

Its called giving their shiny new "average" 17 million dollar QB weapons, in an effort not to make him look average.

 

[funkytown]

I think they are covering all bases,they are bringing in a lot of guys who will be targets if we trade down like EE,Rankins,Lawson and even lynch.

A trade down for Lawson would be an ideal scenario.

 

[Sydla]

Miller could be gone in the 2nd.

1 is very likely to happen whether we like it or not.

2 is just a chance to hit the lotto. Depends on how the knee checks out. He could go in the 1st round or go undrafted.

Elliott at 4 is not "very likely".

Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

 

[Sydla]

On the fact he is BPA at 4

So you know for the fact the Cowboys will view him as BPA at 4?

 

[Sydla]

I wouldn't take a RB anywhere in the 1st, ever. We signed a bust off of the scrap heap for relative peanuts and he was the 4th leading rusher with no QB and only 13 or so starts. And that makes you think "Gee, lets go pick a RB with the most valuable resource we've had in a long time?" No me, not 1 bit.

Jaylon Smith wouldn't be a top 5 pick. The legend of Jaylon Smith is getting out of hand on this board. He's a nice player, but you're picking him only 20-25 or so slots behind where he would have gone fully healthy not knowing whether he'll ever even be the same or lot. Bad idea in my opinion.

Braxton Miller I have no problem with.

That DE you're picking is nearly 300 lbs and a huge tweener in terms of positioning for our scheme. No to mention that we have no one else at DE, any mock without a DE in the 1st 3 rounds is automatically invalid. We need an immediate contributor and that's not Ward.

Based on most of the scouting reviews, you'd be wrong. If healthy, he'd likely have been a Top 5 pick most likely, definitely Top 10.

 

[CWR]

I like it, I know you're catching hell for it but there are some awesome prospects in there.

 

[waving monkey]

After reading Walters Rumor mill about Zeek I have to pass. I'd love his talent though.
Tired of injured players at 2nd round

 

[conner01]

Don't think I could put into words how much I would hate this draft.

RB
Injured LB
WR
Crappy QB

No DE? CB? S? Those first 4 rounds would have me out on the ledge...

I like Elliott but don't think they will pick him at 4
And they aren't picking 3 of the top 4 players who are either injured or not ready to play in the nfl now

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Based on most of the scouting reviews, you'd be wrong. If healthy, he'd likely have been a Top 5 pick most likely, definitely Top 10.

There's no way to really know, but LBers typically aren't taken in the top 5 unless they are 3-4 OLBs, which Smith is not. Since 1995 the only non 3-4 OLBs to crack the top 5 are Kevin Hardy (played in a 3-4 in college, but was a 4-3 rush LB in NFL), Lavar Arrington, AJ Hawk and Aaron Curry. I don't think Jaylon Smith was the type of talent to break that trend, but would have been around 10 or so imo.

 

[sureletsrace]

Oh I agree that there aren't 28 first rounders better than him, but if there are 5, than that means that at #4 there are 3 guys you can choose from, which puts the chance of him being the pick at much less than 50%

I thought that was some fuzzy math as well.

 

[funkytown]

Elliott at 4 is not "very likely".

Where do you guys come up with this stuff?

I don't know why some people are in denial that we could draft RB at 4. It may not be what you want or the correct pick, but Elliot is on their radar. He will be in the conversation when we're on the clock.

 

[dstew60105]

WE ARE NOT DRAFTING RB AT #4.

That's what I keep saying yet another mock with Zeke @ 4.

 

[jnday]

I wouldn't take a RB anywhere in the 1st, ever. We signed a bust off of the scrap heap for relative peanuts and he was the 4th leading rusher with no QB and only 13 or so starts. And that makes you think "Gee, lets go pick a RB with the most valuable resource we've had in a long time?" No me, not 1 bit.

Jaylon Smith wouldn't be a top 5 pick. The legend of Jaylon Smith is getting out of hand on this board. He's a nice player, but you're picking him only 20-25 or so slots behind where he would have gone fully healthy not knowing whether he'll ever even be the same or lot. Bad idea in my opinion.

Braxton Miller I have no problem with.

That DE you're picking is nearly 300 lbs and a huge tweener in terms of positioning for our scheme. No to mention that we have no one else at DE, any mock without a DE in the 1st 3 rounds is automatically invalid. We need an immediate contributor and that's not Ward.

DMac had good stats last year , but he made very little impact in any way. A lot of his yards came during garbage time and he was not a RB that could get the 3rd and short yardage situations done . Stats don't tell the whole story at all. No defense feared or planned for him. They didn't have to. Morris has declined and they are getting just what they payed for with him, a has been. I am not really for drafting a RB with the 4th pick, but the team doesn't have a legit, young RB on the roster. If Zeke had an impact like E Smith, he would be steal with the 4th pick. There is no need to sugar coat the current RB situation. I would be okay with Henry being drafted in the second round. Anyway it goes, it needs to be addressed.

 

[tm1119]

DMac had good stats last year , but he made very little impact in any way. A lot of his yards came during garbage time and he was not a RB that could get the 3rd and short yardage situations done . Stats don't tell the whole story at all. No defense feared or planned for him. They didn't have to. Morris has declined and they are getting just what they payed for with him, a has been. I am not really for drafting a RB with the 4th pick, but the team doesn't have a legit, young RB on the roster. If Zeke had an impact like E Smith, he would be steal with the 4th pick. There is no need to sugar coat the current RB situation. I would be okay with Henry being drafted in the second round. Anyway it goes, it needs to be addressed.

It's a little more difficult to run when your QB is incapable of throwing more than 8 yards down th field and the D knows it. The fact that we were able to run with the success that we did with the QB play we had was actually very impressive when you think about and speaks volumes to my point. You're really going to tell me McFadden wouldn't have been even better with Romo and Dez healthy?

I'm not sitting here and telling you we are set at RB and McFadden is the answer. Of course he isn't, but that doesn't mean we should go the extreme opposite and invest a huge asset into the position. Middle rounds are where the value is for RB's and that would be the smart thing to do this year. We have way more important needs. Besides...I still don't think Zeke is the prospect he's being hyped as, just by far the best in this draft. He might not even be a top 3 RB in next years class