40 yr dash is meaningless and waste of time

[Hadenough]

Joe Haden ran a 4.57. Asomugha 4.45. Richard Sherman 4.56.

Good CBs

 

[buybuydandavis]

Just to show how meaningless it is to measure a players speed on a race track for 40 yards without pads....here ya go

40 yard times mean a lot. Being fast doesn't make you a football player. But being fast makes you a better football player.

Approximate value per season is significantly correlated with 40 times for RBs.
https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/running-the-numbers-want-an-nfl-rb-look-for-speed-335296

 

[OmerV]

I don’t understand the argument over this. Of course speed isn’t everything. Raw speed cant make a stiff bodied guy or a guy with no instincts or other skills into a player.

But speed clearly is a factor in an overall evaluation.

Just as speed isn’t a stand alone trait, neither is size, strength, quickness, instinct or anything else. It’s just a part of judging the overall package, and of course matters more with some positions than with others.

 

[Hardline]

Look at the top 10 in the other combine event records and see the players there.

If you can dismiss the 40 the you can dismiss the other events also.

https://www-sportingnews-com.cdn.am...referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s

 

[Mobinvans]

This thread is the waste of time...

And yet you took the time to post that....lol

 

[charron]

Combine should only be used to confirm what you actually see on the field in college. Learning to use technique beats physical ability in the NFL. Super strong DT's win in college but a weaker dt with better technique win in NFL, same with speed and so forth. Those things help but if that's all you have you will flameout before 3years is up.

 

[OmerV]

And yet you took the time to post that....lol

He has the time to waste.

 

[Doomsday101]

So because the fastest guys weren't the best football players means the 40 is meaningless? That is ridiculous.



The 40 and vertical jump are 2 great tests of explosiveness and they are the 2 top ways IMO to indicate upside at specific positions.

This is why Leighton Vander Esch was being overlooked by some people.

He's 6'4 250 and people didn't like him because he played at Boise but you watch the tape and see a guy that's incredible in space on top of that his testing is off the charts then it was a clear indicator that he should be going higher then what his projection is.

Tavon Austin is one of the fastest on the team yet would not consider him a star player. 40 like the other measurement do matter but none of the over riding factor. 40 time means nothing if the WR can't run routs of hang on to the ball. Some of the all time greats like Rice and Irvin were mid 40 guys

 

[CATCH17]

Tavon Austin is one of the fastest on the team yet would not consider him a star player. 40 like the other measurement do matter but none of the over riding factor. 40 time means nothing if the WR can't run routs of hang on to the ball. Some of the all time greats like Rice and Irvin were mid 40 guys

There are exceptions.

Super slow guys can find success.

Midget QB's have recently found success.

But for the most part the safer investment is the guys that properly measure up.

Tavon Austin was labeled a gadget player before he ever stepped foot on an NFL field and didn't surprise anyone that he has been no better then what he is.

 

[Doomsday101]

There are exceptions.

Super slow guys can find success.

Midget QB's have recently found success.

But for the most part the safer investment is the guys that properly measure up.

Tavon Austin was labeled a gadget player before he ever stepped foot on an NFL field and didn't surprise anyone that he has been no better then what he is.

There are many high speed guys that do not make it. Duke Johnson is one of the fastest but not NFL caliber as of yet. I'm not saying 40 means nothing it is a measurement but tells very little about a players ability to play this game.